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#51
#51
temat said:
All right then. Are you ok with evolution being taught in church?
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So are you saying that intelligent design only promotes the Christian faith? I think not, it only promotes the idea that there are way to many chance happenings for everything to be chance.
 
#54
#54
i went to catholic school and was taught evolution. I was also taught that the bible was written by man.
 
#55
#55
temat said:
All right then. Are you ok with evolution being taught in church?
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I'm OK with anything being taught in church, since it's not government sanctioned. What's your justification for avoiding one in the schools, except that academia has a complete hard-on for secular activism?

For the record, I don't care that Intelligent Design isn't taught in the schools. I just think there is no decent excuse for it to be left out, except the separation of church and state.
 
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#58
T-TownVol said:
may i offer a book...."It Couldn't Just Happen" by Lawrence Richards....but my Faith in God is the reason i beleive that i believe
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God doesn't want you to not believe in evolution (if god exists). fossils exist. god created fossils.
 
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#59
BigPapaVol said:
I'm OK with anything being taught in church, since it's not government sanctioned. What's your justification for avoiding one in the schools, except that academia has a complete hard-on for secular activism?

For the record, I don't care that Intelligent Design isn't taught in the schools. I just think there is no decent excuse for it to be left out, except the separation of church and state.
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that's the answer that is used to hide behind
 
#60
#60
T-TownVol said:
fyp
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there are way too many inconsistencies in the new testament to argue that god had a hand in writing it (or at least a hand in writing the whole thing). a decent editor could have solved 90% of these problems. god i would imagine is a more than decent editor.
 
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droski said:
God doesn't want you to not believe in evolution (if god exists). fossils exist. god created fossils.
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not going to fall for that one, yes the animals that created fossils existed too...if they had "evolved" where, or better yet, what are they now
 
#62
#62
droski said:
there are way too many inconsistencies in the new testament to argue that god had a hand in writing it (or at least a hand in writing the whole thing). a decent editor could have solved 90% of these problems. god i would imagine is a more than decent editor.
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God allowed each writer to give different accounts of often the same stories, but i believe you will find the theme is always the same
 
#67
#67
droski said:
the fossils predate the creation of earth as described by the bible.
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Not necessarily.

The Bible says, God created the Earth in 6 days, and rested on the 7th day.

The Bible also says, 1000 years is but a blink of an eye to God.

If you take the Bible as literally meaning a 24 hour day, then you have a point. A "God day" could literally be eons. The dinosaurs could have been gone long before he decided to create man.
 
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#70
SavageOrangeJug said:
Not necessarily.

The Bible says, God created the Earth in 6 days, and rested on the 7th day.

The Bible also says, 1000 years is but a blink of an eye to God.

If you take the Bible as literally meaning a 24 hour day, then you have a point. A "God day" could literally be eons. The dinosaurs could have been gone long before he decided to create man.
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completely agree. the definition of day according to the bible is very vague. on the other hand if you don't believe in evolution my guess is you don't think that a "day" meant a billion years in the bible.
 
#73
#73
droski said:
completely agree. the definition of day according to the bible is very vague. on the other hand if you don't believe in evolution my guess is you don't think that a "day" meant a billion years in the bible.
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Actually, I think the Earth may have been a work in progress for those eons.

Creation and evolution could both be fact. The Bible says God created the Heavens and the Earth. It doesn't say how, or by what process he used.
 
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#75
SavageOrangeJug said:
Actually, I think the Earth may have been a work in progress for those eons.

Creation and evolution could both be fact. The Bible says God created the Heavens and the Earth. It doesn't say how, or by what process he used.
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Exactly, why is a billion years damning to the Bible?
 
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