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VFL-82-JP said:
I can't keep trying to make you see what you refuse to see, Pimo.

If bowls were as easy to get invited to back then as they are today, where all you need is a .500 record (6--6), BEAR WOULD'VE BEEN IN A BOWL GAME EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE COACHED AT KENTUCKY, because he never had a losing season there.

You can't compare bowl appearances today with those of yesteryear. It's simply far too different a period.

Bryant is the .708 win rate giant among a long string of .400 to .500 midgets. Including Mark Stoops. He's simply not very good, when compared to the best they ever had.

But you'll disagree again. Fine. Believe what you wish.

Go Vols!
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incorrect... i linked therecords of Kentucky in the first post you obviously didn't look lol. By today's rules Bryant would have made 6 total bowls including his two 7 win seasons. I did my homework before speaking sir.

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#153
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pimo1 said:
incorrect... i linked therecords of Kentucky in the first post you obviously didn't look lol. By today's rules Bryant would have made 6 total bowls including his two 7 win seasons. I did my homework before speaking sir.

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You misunderstand the NCAA rules.

Here, straight from the Rule Book:

Eligible Teams

An eligible team is defined as one that has won a number of games against Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS)opponents that is equal to or greater than the number of its overall losses (e.g., a record of 6-6, or better).
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It is a simple rule, easy to understand: one must win as many as one loses, if not more.

Now, you were probably misled by the "example given" of 6-6. But that's only an example. The current rule book provides that example because a 12-game season is the modern norm. That obviously wouldn't apply in Bear Bryant's day.

Since every season he coached he won an "equal to or greater" number of games than he lost, Bryant would have been in a bowl every single season he coached, if bowls were as common back then as they are today.


Source: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ch.../d1/PBA/2019-20PBA_PostseasonBowlHandbook.pdf (page 6)
 
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#154
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Sounds like the lead-up to the 2022 South Carolina game. That combined with the absolute dud of a performance we gave after the last open date this season makes me a bit nervous. Need to show some life on offense.
 
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66volfan said:
Excellent post just one minor correction, Scottish whisky isn’t spelled with an e. Same for the best whisky made in Tennessee, George Dickel.
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George Dickel is largely responsible for me learning to play bass, the formation of the band I played in for 10 years while living in Chattanooga, and at least 3 sets of neighbors moving out of the house next to the lead guitarist's house. I turned a bunch of whippersnappers on to it when I was visiting family out in the Sierra Nevadas last spring. Told the bartender at the Cherokee Tavern to cancel that round of Fireball and get them shots of George instead. I still get thank you texts. You will never convince me that George Dickel wasn't the Tennessee Whisky everyone from George Jones to Chris Stapleton was singing about. Got an 8 year old bottle of No. 8 in the liquor cabinet for when the Vols win their next natty. That will be a glorious night!
 
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Kurtastrophe said:
An SEC job that isn't Kentucky. I could see him doing well at Ole Miss if Kiffin bolts.
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Kiffin always bolts. Unless he gets fired first. I despise that guy. He's like Spurrier without the sense of humor or the National Championship. Right down to that stupid visor. I have no use for men who can't decide whether they want to wear a ball cap or not.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
You misunderstand the NCAA rules.

Here, straight from the Rule Book:



It is a simple rule, easy to understand: one must win as many as one loses, if not more.

Now, you were probably misled by the "example given" of 6-6. But that's only an example. The current rule book provides that example because a 12-game season is the modern norm. That obviously wouldn't apply in Bear Bryant's day.

Since every season he coached he won an "equal to or greater" number of games than he lost, Bryant would have been in a bowl every single season he coached, if bowls were as common back then as they are today.


Source: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ch.../d1/PBA/2019-20PBA_PostseasonBowlHandbook.pdf (page 6)
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You might want to look up when that rule was instated. That was post-tie era. But nice try. In engaging in this loosing argument you continue to miss the entire point. You are going back to the one coach Kentucky ever had that's in an argument here.. 70 years ago In a completely different era where rules were different the game was different and fandom was different. The freaking game was still segregated and they were just then phasing out leather helmets.

Its been that long since they had someone that could sniff Stoops' jock. So now you want them to fire him and wait until the Sugar bowl is played on Mars?
 
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pimo1 said:
You might want to look up when that rule was instated. That was post-tie era. But nice try. In engaging in this loosing argument you continue to miss the entire point. You are going back to the one coach Kentucky ever had that's in an argument here.. 70 years ago In a completely different era where rules were different the game was different and fandom was different. The freaking game was still segregated and they were just then phasing out leather helmets.

Its been that long since they had someone that could sniff Stoops' jock. So now you want them to fire him and wait until the Sugar bowl is played on Mars?
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No, I want them to keep him. Because he is mediocre. Just like most of the Kentucky coaches who came before.

The only exception, the only KY coach with a real winning record in the past 80 years, is Bear Bryant. His .708 win rate dwarfs all the rest. Including Stoops.

So I hope Kentucky keeps him as long as he's willing to keep coaching football.
 
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Volnanza said:
No. Keep Stoops. He's the best coach Kentucky has had in 20 years.
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He's legitimately the best coach they have had since Bear Bryant, and it's not particularly close. Granted that bar is incredibly low, as they've been a terrible program for 60+ years. But still, I would think their fans would be more grateful for turning UK from a perennial basement dweller into a mid-tier SEC program, with multiple wins against Tennesse, Florida, South Carolina, and winning 4 straight against in state rival Louisville.

I really don't know what UK fans expect. Unless UK wants to join a weaker conference, they are never going to be a team in playoff contention with any sort of regularity. This is it for them. A coach that can consistently win 7 games or more is the best UK is ever gonna get and it's the best they are ever gonna be.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I can't keep trying to make you see what you refuse to see, Pimo.

If bowls were as easy to get invited to back then as they are today, where all you need is a .500 record (6--6), BEAR WOULD'VE BEEN IN A BOWL GAME EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE COACHED AT KENTUCKY, because he never had a losing season there.

You can't compare bowl appearances today with those of yesteryear. It's simply far too different a period.

Bryant is the .708 win rate giant among a long string of .400 to .500 midgets. Including Mark Stoops. He's simply not very good, when compared to the best they ever had.

But you'll disagree again. Fine. Believe what you wish.

Go Vols!
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Exactly. Bowl appearances now mean squat when there’s like 50 bowl games. Any team with a pulse (.500 record) can make a bowl nowadays. I find it amusing when coaches try to sell their appearance in the Birmingham Bowl or the Poulan Weedeater Lawnmower Stringtrimmer Toilet Bowl as a great accomplishment.
 
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Chad F said:
Sounds like the lead-up to the 2022 South Carolina game. That combined with the absolute dud of a performance we gave after the last open date this season makes me a bit nervous. Need to show some life on offense.
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That dud of a performance hopefully left a bad taste in their mouth to not let it happen again. Im not nervous per say, but KY can beat us if we dont show up like we did in 2022 south carolina game. But i dont think Kentucky's offense can score 62 points.
 
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Chad F said:
Sounds like the lead-up to the 2022 South Carolina game. That combined with the absolute dud of a performance we gave after the last open date this season makes me a bit nervous. Need to show some life on offense.
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I’ve heard you guys say that about a few games this year,I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
GB🍊!!!!
 
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Staff Predictions

Before every Kentucky game the Cats Illustrated staff chimes in with takes and predictions.How does the staff see the
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What's your game prediction and who is a Kentucky player who needs to perform well?

Drummond: Tennessee 41, Kentucky 6 — Six might be optimistic. I think the Vols can just about name their score in this one, barring some very strange circumstances and uncharacteristic play on their part. I can’t really name a UK MVP candidate with a straight face. Is there a Matt Roark lurking for a new generation?

Graf: Tennessee 31, Kentucky 10. I don’t see a way Kentucky keeps this one close with the offensive output we’ve seen thus far. The Tennessee offense has been lackluster for a lot of the season, but if things click they can pick the score.

Rowland: Deone Walker is Kentucky's best draft prospect. He has occupied a lot of blockers this year but hasn't had the highlight reel plays that have resulted in points or game-changing momentum. With so many guys out, he needs to be his absolute best, disruptive as heck and causing problems. The defense has to set the offense up for UK to have a chance. But it just seems like too tall an order. Tennessee 27, Kentucky 6.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Not 100% sure Cignetti would say no...he's making 4.5 mill / yr at IU.
His buyout is 6 mill after Nov 30th.

That's a huge jump from the roughly 700K he was making at JMU.
Kentucky is shelling out 9 mill a year for Stoops...double what IU is paying.

Here's the kicker in all of this - and why I don't think UK does anything this year - Stoops is owed 44 MILL on any buyout this year !!!
That's a big pill to swallow for any AD right now, even one that is revenue sharing in the SEC.
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If Cig thinks he can maintain what he’s doing at IU, he needs to hang in there until he gets a call from either Columbus or Ann Arbor.
 
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