What team could make the biggest jump from now until signing day (Scout)?

#26
#26
Well I guess there is a reason I didn't know that lol
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#27
#27
PrimeTime said:
But Hat and SGM told me that Dooley sucks....

Don't they know more than people who are paid to evaluate players and coaches?
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At least Hat takes a stance on what he believes. SGM, on the other hand, checks to see where Hat stands on an issue before taking a stance.
 
#28
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Lord Vader said:
You are still right. The other guy was talking about since 2002 I am pretty sure.
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Sorry I missed that. But Rivals was actually around well before 2002, just under a different name, but the same guys Jeremy Crabtree, Bobby Burton, etc ran it. It was called the National Recruiting Advisor. They had the exact same rankings format Rivals still uses today.
 
#29
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Montrell Hardy said:
Sorry I missed that. But Rivals was actually around well before 2002, just under a different name, but the same guys Jeremy Crabtree, Bobby Burton, etc ran it. It was called the National Recruiting Advisor. They had the exact same rankings format Rivals still uses today.
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Yea I read a story last year about how Rivals and Scout were formed, bought, etc. Kinda interesting stuff.

Where do you find their rankings before 2002 at?
 
#30
#30
Lord Vader said:
Yea I read a story last year about how Rivals and Scout were formed, bought, etc. Kinda interesting stuff.

Where do you find their rankings before 2002 at?
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I still have all of them LOL I began subscribing to the NRA back in 1993. They sent out about 12 newsletters throughout the year and their final magazine was about 50 pages and excellent detail. It had their final rankings, overall class and conference rankings, Top 25 juniors to watch, etc... They were really ahead of the times back in the 90's.

Tennessee signed a TON of 5-star 6.1's back then. It was sick really.
 
#31
#31
I was mistaken the 1996 recruiting class that included Tee Martin was rated #4, not #6. And the 1997 class was #3, not #4. I'll go edit it.
 
#34
#34
Since I'm bored....Look at some of these guys back in the 90's and early 2000's and where Rivals / NRA ranked them.

C/O 1993:
RB Jay Graham 5* 6.1
DE Leonard Little 5* 6.1
WR Marquise Mebane 5* 6.1 (No idea what happened to this guy)
DB Ivan Zenon 5* 6.1

1994:
QB Peyton Manning 5* 6.1
OT Jarvis Reado 5* 6.1
WR Marcus Nash 5* 6.1
WR Maurice Staley 5* 6.1
DE Jeff Coleman 4* 6.0
DE Jonathon Brown 4* 6.0
DT Ron Green 4*5.8
DB Terry Fair 4* 5.8
OL Diron Robinson 4* 6.0
QB Branndon Stewart 4* 6.0
WR Anthony Hampton 4* 6.0
WR Andy McCollough 4* 5.9

1995:
HB Brian Darden 5* 6.1
OT Chad Clifton 5* 6.1
SS Al Wilson 5* 6.1
MLB Billy Ratliff 4* 6.0
OG Spencer Riley 4* 5.9
WR Peerless Price 4* 5.8

1996:
DE Shaun Ellis 5* 6.1
DE Corey Terry 5* 6.1
OLB Raynoch Thompson 4* 5.8
QB Tee Martin 4* 5.9
CB Dwayne Goodrich 4* 6.0
FS Gerald Griffin 4* 6.0

1997:
OG Cosey Coleman 4* 6.0
FS Deon Grant 4* 6.0
RB Jamal Lewis 4* 6.0
DE DeAngelo Llloyd 4* 5.9
WR Bobby Graham 4* 5.8
OT Reggie Coleman 4* 5.8
WR Eric Parker 4* 5.8
ATH Cedrick Wilson 4* 5.8
WR David Martin 4* 5.8
DB Andre Lott 4* 5.8
DT Fred Weary 4* 5.8
RB Travis Henry 4* 5.8
RB Travis Stephens 4* 5.8

1998:
DT John Henderson 5* 6.1
MLB Bernard Jackson 5* 6.1
DE Will Overstreet 4* 6.0
OT Will Ofenheusle 4* 6.0
WR Donte Stallworth 4* 5.8
DT Rashad Moore 4* 5.8

1999:
DT Albert Haynesworth 5* 6.1
C Greg Barnum 4* 6.0
DE Constantin Ritzmann 4* 6.0
DT Terrea Smalls 4* 5.9
RB Onterrio Smith 4* 6.0
FB Troy Fleming 4* 5.8

2000:
OT Michael Munoz 5* 6.1
OG Jason Respter 5* 6.1
QB Casey Clausen 4* 6.0
OT Sean Young 4* 6.0
WR Rashad Baker 4* 6.0
DE Karlton Neal 4* 6.0
DE Jason Witten 4* 6.0
WR Tony Brown 4* 5.8
WR Mark Jones 4* 5.8
LB Robert Peace 4* 5.8
 
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#35
#35
How do you get Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry, and Travis Stephens all in one class...that is freaking ridiculous!
 
#37
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Lord Vader said:
- the Scout recruiting team
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LV

Do you think in the end we will be ranked better than Clemson? Reason being I work with a Clemson fan guys wants to make a bet they finish higher than UT. I saw they are currently ranked 11th. What do you think?
 
#38
#38
I have felt since about march we finish 9th this year.

In your opinion, LV, what kinda shot we have at this?

I know it's early and it's all a guess but you know more going on than I do. Would like your opinion.
 
#39
#39
Im not sure we will end up as high as auburn did last yr but i really believe we are going to pick up steam and start reeling them in as the season plays out.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Since I'm bored....Look at some of these guys back in the 90's and early 2000's and where Rivals / NRA ranked them.

C/O 1993:
RB Jay Graham 5* 6.1
DE Leonard Little 5* 6.1
WR Marquise Mebane 5* 6.1 (No idea what happened to this guy)
DB Ivan Zenon 5* 6.1

1994:
QB Peyton Manning 5* 6.1
OT Jarvis Reado 5* 6.1
WR Marcus Nash 5* 6.1
WR Maurice Staley 5* 6.1
DE Jeff Coleman 4* 6.0
DE Jonathon Brown 4* 6.0
DT Ron Green 4*5.8
DB Terry Fair 4* 5.8
OL Diron Robinson 4* 6.0
QB Branndon Stewart 4* 6.0
WR Anthony Hampton 4* 6.0
WR Andy McCollough 4* 5.9

1995:
HB Brian Darden 5* 6.1
OT Chad Clifton 5* 6.1
SS Al Wilson 5* 6.1
MLB Billy Ratliff 4* 6.0
OG Spencer Riley 4* 5.9
WR Peerless Price 4* 5.8

1996:
DE Shaun Ellis 5* 6.1
DE Corey Terry 5* 6.1
OLB Raynoch Thompson 4* 5.8
QB Tee Martin 4* 5.9
CB Dwayne Goodrich 4* 6.0
FS Gerald Griffin 4* 6.0

1997:
OG Cosey Coleman 4* 6.0
FS Deon Grant 4* 6.0
RB Jamal Lewis 4* 6.0
DE DeAngelo Llloyd 4* 5.9
WR Bobby Graham 4* 5.8
OT Reggie Coleman 4* 5.8
WR Eric Parker 4* 5.8
ATH Cedrick Wilson 4* 5.8
WR David Martin 4* 5.8
DB Andre Lott 4* 5.8
DT Fred Weary 4* 5.8
RB Travis Henry 4* 5.8
RB Travis Stephens 4* 5.8

1998:
DT John Henderson 5* 6.1
MLB Bernard Jackson 5* 6.1
DE Will Overstreet 4* 6.0
OT Will Ofenheusle 4* 6.0
WR Donte Stallworth 4* 5.8
DT Rashad Moore 4* 5.8

1999:
DT Albert Haynesworth 5* 6.1
C Greg Barnum 4* 6.0
DE Constantin Ritzmann 4* 6.0
DT Terrea Smalls 4* 5.9
RB Onterrio Smith 4* 6.0
FB Troy Fleming 4* 5.8

2000:
OT Michael Munoz 5* 6.1
OG Jason Respter 5* 6.1
QB Casey Clausen 4* 6.0
OT Sean Young 4* 6.0
WR Rashad Baker 4* 6.0
DE Karlton Neal 4* 6.0
DE Jason Witten 4* 6.0
WR Tony Brown 4* 5.8
WR Mark Jones 4* 5.8
LB Robert Peace 4* 5.8
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Awesome info. Thanks. :hi:
 
#41
#41
volzfan1998 said:
LV

Do you think in the end we will be ranked better than Clemson? Reason being I work with a Clemson fan guys wants to make a bet they finish higher than UT. I saw they are currently ranked 11th. What do you think?
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No, not this year. This will be their best class ever.

Ihatethebuckeyes said:
I have felt since about march we finish 9th this year.

In your opinion, LV, what kinda shot we have at this?

I know it's early and it's all a guess but you know more going on than I do. Would like your opinion.
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I doubt it happens but we have a shot. I think we finish no higher than 8th and no lower than 14th.
 
#43
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Ericvol2096 said:
How do you get Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry, and Travis Stephens all in one class...that is freaking ridiculous!
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As a program we may not make it back to that level of recruiting for a long time (if ever) but your top tier programs don't seem to have that difficult of a time landing three big name RB's in one class especially if the position had been purged by a lot of graduation/leaving early.

I mean the future can't be told the same way we can look back on Lewis/Henry/Stephens, but even Texas A&M signed three 4-star (Rivals) running backs last year.
 
#44
#44
Montrell Hardy said:
Since I'm bored....Look at some of these guys back in the 90's and early 2000's and where Rivals / NRA ranked them.

C/O 1993:
RB Jay Graham 5* 6.1
DE Leonard Little 5* 6.1
WR Marquise Mebane 5* 6.1 (No idea what happened to this guy)
DB Ivan Zenon 5* 6.1

1994:
QB Peyton Manning 5* 6.1
OT Jarvis Reado 5* 6.1
WR Marcus Nash 5* 6.1
WR Maurice Staley 5* 6.1
DE Jeff Coleman 4* 6.0
DE Jonathon Brown 4* 6.0
DT Ron Green 4*5.8
DB Terry Fair 4* 5.8
OL Diron Robinson 4* 6.0
QB Branndon Stewart 4* 6.0
WR Anthony Hampton 4* 6.0
WR Andy McCollough 4* 5.9

1995:
HB Brian Darden 5* 6.1
OT Chad Clifton 5* 6.1
SS Al Wilson 5* 6.1
MLB Billy Ratliff 4* 6.0
OG Spencer Riley 4* 5.9
WR Peerless Price 4* 5.8

1996:
DE Shaun Ellis 5* 6.1
DE Corey Terry 5* 6.1
OLB Raynoch Thompson 4* 5.8
QB Tee Martin 4* 5.9
CB Dwayne Goodrich 4* 6.0
FS Gerald Griffin 4* 6.0

1997:
OG Cosey Coleman 4* 6.0
FS Deon Grant 4* 6.0
RB Jamal Lewis 4* 6.0
DE DeAngelo Llloyd 4* 5.9
WR Bobby Graham 4* 5.8
OT Reggie Coleman 4* 5.8
WR Eric Parker 4* 5.8
ATH Cedrick Wilson 4* 5.8
WR David Martin 4* 5.8
DB Andre Lott 4* 5.8
DT Fred Weary 4* 5.8
RB Travis Henry 4* 5.8
RB Travis Stephens 4* 5.8

1998:
DT John Henderson 5* 6.1
MLB Bernard Jackson 5* 6.1
DE Will Overstreet 4* 6.0
OT Will Ofenheusle 4* 6.0
WR Donte Stallworth 4* 5.8
DT Rashad Moore 4* 5.8

1999:
DT Albert Haynesworth 5* 6.1
C Greg Barnum 4* 6.0
DE Constantin Ritzmann 4* 6.0
DT Terrea Smalls 4* 5.9
RB Onterrio Smith 4* 6.0
FB Troy Fleming 4* 5.8

2000:
OT Michael Munoz 5* 6.1
OG Jason Respter 5* 6.1
QB Casey Clausen 4* 6.0
OT Sean Young 4* 6.0
WR Rashad Baker 4* 6.0
DE Karlton Neal 4* 6.0
DE Jason Witten 4* 6.0
WR Tony Brown 4* 5.8
WR Mark Jones 4* 5.8
LB Robert Peace 4* 5.8
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That is the reason Phil Fulmer was finally put to pasture. Can you imagine Osborne,Paterno,Saban or Switzer with that talent level for that many years in a row. Thank you Phil for the 98 NC, however a few more were warranted...IMHO.... GBO
 
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#45
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Big Orange Bo said:
That is the reason Phil Fulmer was finally put to pasture. Can you imagine Osborne,Paterno,Saban or Switzer with that talent level for that many years in a row. Thank you Phil for the 98 NC, however a few more were warranted...IMHO>>> GBO
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you humble opinion is greater than go Big Orange? I am confused.
 
#47
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Montrell Hardy said:
Tennessee had at least 9 classes in a row in the 90's and early 2000's that were Top 10.

1993 - #3 - Leonard Little, Jay Graham, Ivan Zenon, Marquise Mebane
1994 - #1 - Peyton Manning, Marcus Nash, Maurice Staley, Jonathon Brown, Terry Fair, Anthony Hampton, Jeff Coleman
1995 - #7 - Brian Darden, Al Wilson, Chad Clifton, Spencer Riley, Peerless Price
1996 - #4 - Tee Martin, Dwayne Goodrich, Gerald Griffin, Shaun Ellis, Raynoch Thompson
1997 - #3 - Jamal Lewis, Fred Weary, Travis Henry, Cosey Coleman, Deon Grant, Eric Parker, Reggie Coleman
1998 - #7 - John Henderson, Bernard Jackson, Will Overstreet, Donte Stallworth, Willie Miles
1999 - #9 - Albert Haynesworth, Terrea Smalls, Onterrio Smith, Greg Barnum, Constantin Ritzmann
2000 - #2 - Michael Munoz, Sean Young, Jason Respert, Rashad Baker, Karlton Neal, Kevin Burnett, Jabari Greer, Tony Brown.
2001 - #4 - Kevin Simon, Cedric Houston, Jabari Davis, Derrick Tinsley, CJ Fayton
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My Goodness, that is sick. Look at 1997 class! That is amazing. You also forgot to add Travis Stephens to that '97 class also.
 
#48
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As much as I hate some of the things Hat says, he does at least support the University. I have a hard time putting SGM in the same category.
 
#49
#49
Montrell Hardy said:
If they land a Top 10 class it will be the biggest miracle I've personally ever seen in Tennessee football history and Dooley should get a 6 year contract extension immediately.
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Ron Zook would still be locked in at UF if they gave extensions based on recruiting alone.
 
#50
#50
Big Orange Bo said:
That is the reason Phil Fulmer was finally put to pasture. Can you imagine Osborne,Paterno,Saban or Switzer with that talent level for that many years in a row. Thank you Phil for the 98 NC, however a few more were warranted...IMHO.... GBO
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They all had that kind of talent.
 
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