What team could make the biggest jump from now until signing day (Scout)?

#52
#52
DaddyChad said:
Ron Zook would still be locked in at UF if they gave extensions based on recruiting alone.
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Big difference IMO.

1. Ron Zook inherited an incredibly healthy program when he took over in 2002, which made recruiting from the get-go incredibly easy.

2. Recruiting Top 10 classes to the big 3 schools in Florida should be rather easy for anyone to accomplish.
 
#53
#53
Montrell Hardy said:
Big difference IMO.

1. Ron Zook inherited an incredibly healthy program when he took over in 2002, which made recruiting from the get-go incredibly easy.

2. Recruiting Top 10 classes to the big 3 schools in Florida should be rather easy for anyone to accomplish.
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Its not very difficult to recruit at tennessee either.
 
#54
#54
Big Orange Bo said:
That is the reason Phil Fulmer was finally put to pasture. Can you imagine Osborne,Paterno,Saban or Switzer with that talent level for that many years in a row. Thank you Phil for the 98 NC, however a few more were warranted...IMHO.... GBO
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I agree. The three years that stick out to me when it came to totally underachieving on the field were 1996, 1999 and 2001.

1996, losing at Memphis? If they win that they in all likely-hood finish 2nd and play Florida State in the Sugar Bowl for the national title instead of Florida.

1999, this was the most loaded team of them all and they lost 3 games. I admit they probably didn't give a **** about the Fiesta Bowl and Nebraska after the loss to Arkansas cost them a rematch with FSU in the Sugar Bowl for the title. But they had way more talent than Florida in 99 and definitely more than Arkansas. They go to Bama and push them around and beat them by 2 TD's but can't beat a Florida or Arkansas, who were not nearly as good as Bama was that season.

And then how do you beat #2 Florida on the road and then lose to an average LSU team that won the West by default, that you beat rather handily in the regular season.

Those were the 3 years that I look back on and just can't believe some of the losses they had.
 
#58
#58
Lord Vader said:
I doubt it happens but we have a shot. I think we finish no higher than 8th and no lower than 14th.
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I read "X's" recruiting blog on Basillio's website every time he posts, and for the most part, he's dead on with his/her(?) assessments. X said a few months ago that "there will be a lot of UT fans that will be disappointed with the final ranking of his year's class......but not with the results the class will bring in the years to come..." (paraphrasing).

Basically x's reasoning was that the staff is not concerned with stars or rankings or recruiting services, they have (Lance Thompson was specifically mentioned in this regard) a very good sense of what they're looking for, and will judge based on a recruits tape and how they look in person.

Basicaly, they could give a $*** if a guy is a 3 star or a 4 star, if they believe the kid can play, they'll sign him and be damned with the final rankings--something Dooley has inferred on several occasions.

LV, this sound like an accurate assessment to you?

I get the feeling that we'll have a top 15 class but maybe not a top 10, but have as close to a 100% retention rate as you can get, I.e. no non-qualifiers, or very few.

If so, that can only help build a solid foundation and get us back on the winning side of football faster. JMO.
 
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#60
orangeblood79 said:
Basicaly, they could give a $*** if a guy is a 3 star or a 4 star, if they believe the kid can play, they'll sign him and be damned with the final rankings--something Dooley has inferred on several occasions.
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Not saying this isn't true, but this is an excuse used by every single school and their fan base if they have a disappointing or lower-rated recruiting class.
 
#62
#62
At this stage of the game, I would take a top 15 class, but that would probably put 5 or 6 or maybe even 7 other SEC teams in front of us. We finished in the top 10 the last two recruiting classes but was still only the 4th and 5th best in the SEC. Not trying to be negative its just a fact. Let's just hope our coaches can develop players a little better than the others.
 
#63
#63
VolsFanRJ said:
At this stage of the game, I would take a top 15 class, but that would probably put 5 or 6 or maybe even 7 other SEC teams in front of us. We finished in the top 10 the last two recruiting classes but was still only the 4th and 5th best in the SEC. Not trying to be negative its just a fact. Let's just hope our coaches can develop players a little better than the others.
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I would take a Top 15 class in a heartbeat and be very happy. I think it's going to be tough to bring in a class that highly rated, but that is just my opinion.
 
#64
#64
Montrell Hardy said:
Not saying this isn't true, but this is an excuse used by every single school and their fan base if they have a disappointing or lower-rated recruiting class.
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My feeling on the matter is that Dooley realized when he took over the job that he had a long way to go with the higher(est) rated players, I.e. the 5star players being recruited by everyone under the sun for the last 3 years.

So while he would continue to focus his efforts on those highly sought after players, he (they as a staff, as well) decided their best efforts should be focused on the higher 3 star, lower 4 star recruits that were/are in essence, low hanging fruit.

Some people have a problem with that, I don't--at least for now. I think its the most effective method of rebuilding a program with players who, honestly, aren't really that different from the elite group.

This strategy, IMO, will yield a return much faster than the way most people on this board would like---hard charging after the highest ranked recruits only to strike out with the majority and having to settle for the scraps left over.

Its something i know a little something about, in a totally different field of course, but I've grown territories/markets with this exact strategy and its done quite nicely for me.
 
#65
#65
orangeblood79 said:
My feeling on the matter is that Dooley realized when he took over the job that he had a long way to go with the higher(est) rated players, I.e. the 5star players being recruited by everyone under the sun for the last 3 years.

So while he would continue to focus his efforts on those highly sought after players, he (they as a staff, as well) decided their best efforts should be focused on the higher 3 star, lower 4 star recruits that were/are in essence, low hanging fruit.

Some people have a problem with that, I don't--at least for now. I think its the most effective method of rebuilding a program with players who, honestly, aren't really that different from the elite group.

This strategy, IMO, will yield a return much faster than the way most people on this board would like---hard charging after the highest ranked recruits only to strike out with the majority and having to settle for the scraps left over.

Its something i know a little something about, in a totally different field of course, but I've grown territories/markets with this exact strategy and its done quite nicely for me.
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I don't disagree with anything you said there.
Getting the program back to upper echelon status is a process and it could be a slow process and I am definitely content with giving Dooley time and taking a wait and see approach on his plan.

I think a lot of people on here (not you) have totally unrealistic expectations about this coming season and probably the next few seasons.
 
#66
#66
Montrell Hardy said:
I don't disagree with anything you said there.
Getting the program back to upper echelon status is a process and it could be a slow process and I am definitely content with giving Dooley time and taking a wait and see approach on his plan.

I think a lot of people on here (not you) have totally unrealistic expectations about this coming season and probably the next few seasons.
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Not me. Making and winning a bowl and finishing with 7 wins and I will be thrilled. If we could some how finish with 8 wins including a bowl win and I'm ecstatic.
 
#68
#68
Give Dooley time. With the miracle he performed with last years recruiting class amidst the turmoil that went on I wouldnt be surprised by a top 15 class this year.
 
#70
#70
Even as a gator fan, I agree with this. Kids are waiting to see what kind of product Dooley puts on the field. Top 15 is certainly not out of the question. He can also pitch early playing time which a lot of SEC teams can't.
 
#71
#71
orangeblood79 said:
I read "X's" recruiting blog on Basillio's website every time he posts, and for the most part, he's dead on with his/her(?) assessments. X said a few months ago that "there will be a lot of UT fans that will be disappointed with the final ranking of his year's class......but not with the results the class will bring in the years to come..." (paraphrasing).

Basically x's reasoning was that the staff is not concerned with stars or rankings or recruiting services, they have (Lance Thompson was specifically mentioned in this regard) a very good sense of what they're looking for, and will judge based on a recruits tape and how they look in person.

Basicaly, they could give a $*** if a guy is a 3 star or a 4 star, if they believe the kid can play, they'll sign him and be damned with the final rankings--something Dooley has inferred on several occasions.

LV, this sound like an accurate assessment to you?

I get the feeling that we'll have a top 15 class but maybe not a top 10, but have as close to a 100% retention rate as you can get, I.e. no non-qualifiers, or very few.

If so, that can only help build a solid foundation and get us back on the winning side of football faster. JMO.
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Yes.

Listen to X. He knows whats going on despite what the haters think.
 
#73
#73
been drankin the orange koolaid this week, sayin top 10 mang! :clapping: :dance: :rock:
 
#74
#74
seriously though...whats the over under on 5 stars we sign this year and next year? anyone think we land another Da'Rick Rogers or Janzen Jackson close to NSD this year?
 
#75
#75
orangeblood79 said:
My feeling on the matter is that Dooley realized when he took over the job that he had a long way to go with the higher(est) rated players, I.e. the 5star players being recruited by everyone under the sun for the last 3 years.

So while he would continue to focus his efforts on those highly sought after players, he (they as a staff, as well) decided their best efforts should be focused on the higher 3 star, lower 4 star recruits that were/are in essence, low hanging fruit.

Some people have a problem with that, I don't--at least for now. I think its the most effective method of rebuilding a program with players who, honestly, aren't really that different from the elite group.

This strategy, IMO, will yield a return much faster than the way most people on this board would like---hard charging after the highest ranked recruits only to strike out with the majority and having to settle for the scraps left over.

Its something i know a little something about, in a totally different field of course, but I've grown territories/markets with this exact strategy and its done quite nicely for me.
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I believe this is essentially what Saban did his first year recruiting @ UA.
 
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