What would you say is the team's biggest weakness?

#76
#76
zjcvols said:
Because they hit them extremely well. Paul is one of the best midrange shooters ever based on percentages we have (maybe the best) so he’s fine when taking those shots and Kyrie is insanely gifted.

The farther you get from the basket the lower the percentage of a shot going in declines...whether you shoot a 5 footer or a 20 footer the points are the same. Two points. Once you get past 15 feet, the reward is much higher for taking 3’s.

Let’s take aforementioned Chris Paul. Paul. an amazing mid range shooter, is a career 46.2% from 16-3P. Paul, a very good 3P shooter but not elite, is a career 37% from 3. If he takes a 100 shots from not ranges, that’s 111 points from 3 to 92 points from 2. The mid range isn’t worth it. Even if that percentage dropped to 33%, the 3 is still worth it.
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I understand the logic behind shooting 3’s vs 2’s, but everything comes back to the unknown completion percentage. Hitting 75% of 2 pointers equals making 66.33% of 3 pointers. You’ve stated it’s ok to shoot 2 pointers for some great players because they make a high percentage of them. Doesn’t seem like there’s an absolute way to pick a shot, instead it all depends on how well your team can shoot 3’s verses 2’s right?
 
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#77
walkenvol said:
I understand the logic behind shooting 3’s vs 2’s, but everything comes back to the unknown completion percentage. Hitting 75% of 2 pointers equals making 66.33% of 3 pointers. You’ve stated it’s ok to shoot 2 pointers for some great players because they make a high percentage of them. Doesn’t seem like there’s an absolute way to pick a shot, instead it all depends on how well your team can shoot 3’s verses 2’s right?
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I think your math is off. 75% x 2 = 1.5 points. 50% of 3s equals 1.5 points. 66% of 3s is 2 points.

The long rebounds after missed 3s enhance their potential value as well.
 
#82
#82
OrngeJuiceJones said:
Weakness may be not having a full arena can't find much more rn
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In some weird way it’s almost like it kind of helps right now. Every game, home and away, will be similar. They won’t be distracted by the roof coming off of the arena. Some opponents actually thrive in front of hostile crowds.
 
#84
#84
3pt defense or lack thereof.

It has been a thing with Barnes philosophy on defense. Interior defense is elite, but we give up open looks at the 3pt line.

I believe this has always been an Achilles heel for Barnes and a big reason for the lack of NCAA tournament deep runs. When you get to the second weekend, most teams will light you up if don’t defend the 3 well.
 
#85
#85
VolZen said:
3pt defense or lack thereof.

It has been a thing with Barnes philosophy on defense. Interior defense is elite, but we give up open looks at the 3pt line.

I believe this has always been an Achilles heel for Barnes and a big reason for the lack of NCAA tournament deep runs. When you get to the second weekend, most teams will light you up if don’t defend the 3 well.
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Colorado shot 22%
Cincy shot 28%
App ST shot 24%
Tech shot 27%

Hey I’d love it to be better.......but right now the Tennessee D is just good......period.
 
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VolZen said:
3pt defense or lack thereof.

It has been a thing with Barnes philosophy on defense. Interior defense is elite, but we give up open looks at the 3pt line.

I believe this has always been an Achilles heel for Barnes and a big reason for the lack of NCAA tournament deep runs. When you get to the second weekend, most teams will light you up if don’t defend the 3 well.
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Agree, but Keon, Bailey and Springer are quick enough to make a run out and get a hand in the shooters face, that will help. Athletes like we have, will make Barnes defensive strategy better this year, imo. Sky's the limit, anything less than some kind of an SEC Championship and the Sweet 16, will be a disappointment, imo. Final 4 team, imo and my childhood dream, that hopefully comes true, this year.

Edit: damn, I said, imo, a lot, my bad
 
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#88
JoAllan said:
Colorado shot 22%
Cincy shot 28%
App ST shot 24%
Tech shot 27%

Hey I’d love it to be better.......but right now the Tennessee D is just good......period.
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These teams have had open looks they just haven’t hit them. Wait til we play better teams.
 
#89
#89
Every team in every game will get “some” open looks.

Colorado shoots the 3 at 37% (average for the year). Tennessee held them to 22%......”maybe” they had some open looks and simply missed......but when you take them down 15% from their average.....that good D.....period.

Cincy shoots 26% Tennessee held them to 28%.....not great......but certainly didn’t let them do anything special or out of the ordinary on their 3’s.

App state shoots at about 31%. Tennessee held them to 24%.....thats 7% less than their average.

Tech shoots at 28%. Tennessee held them to 27%......again noting amazing......but certainly not bad at all.

Again.......I don’t know what your talking about.....this season anyway.

Tennessee is playing great D......they are also playing really good D vs the 3.

Edit (wasn’t counting December games):
on average (per their other games)

Colorado shoots 3’s at 40% vs TN 23%
Cincy 27% vs TN 28%
App ST 32% vs TN 24%
Tech 26% vs TN 27%
 
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#90
#90
Refs are going to be our biggest weakness if they are the same as last year. They were absolutely brutal... blowing their whistles on nearly every possession for long chunks of games. It’d be nice to see them play minus the TV Teddy moments disrupting the flow this year. It’s beautiful to watch. Let them play.
 
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#91
#91
scoring droughts
but i worry most that covid or the two teams from sabanland taint our season
 
#92
#92
JoAllan said:
Again.......I don’t know what your talking about.....this season anyway.
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Great stat analysis. I hope we do this all year on the way to a final four.

I am speaking more on a historical level with Barnes teams in the tournament. Think Loyola Nun U and Purdue (the goofy dude that had a career from 3 against us).

I have seen the teams we have played this far have the same open looks and miss them. Road games, Covid, whatever they have not made them.
 
#93
#93
JoAllan said:
Every team in every game will get “some” open looks.

Colorado shoots the 3 at 37% (average for the year). Tennessee held them to 22%......”maybe” they had some open looks and simply missed......but when you take them down 15% from their average.....that good D.....period.

Cincy shoots 26% Tennessee held them to 28%.....not great......but certainly didn’t let them do anything special or out of the ordinary on their 3’s.

App state shoots at about 31%. Tennessee held them to 24%.....thats 7% less than their average.

Tech shoots at 28%. Tennessee held them to 27%......again noting amazing......but certainly not bad at all.

Again.......I don’t know what your talking about.....this season anyway.

Tennessee is playing great D......they are also playing really good D vs the 3.

Edit (wasn’t counting December games):
on average (per their other games)

Colorado shoots 3’s at 40% vs TN 23%
Cincy 27% vs TN 28%
App ST 32% vs TN 24%
Tech 26% vs TN 27%
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Some of this falls under game planning. If Cincy wants to come out and shoot a bunch of threes, you let them.
 
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#94
VolZen said:
Great stat analysis. I hope we do this all year on the way to a final four.

I am speaking more on a historical level with Barnes teams in the tournament. Think Loyola Nun U and Purdue (the goofy dude that had a career from 3 against us).

I have seen the teams we have played this far have the same open looks and miss them. Road games, Covid, whatever they have not made them.
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True about the Purdue guy. Sometimes it's just your night. He could have made those shots blind folded.
 
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#96
Question for BTO, Chris, or anyone else out there that follow NBA and scouting, draft projections, etc.

In the next NBA draft, how many of our players are projected to go and which round? Thanks.
 
#97
#97
golfballs said:
In general we take few 3pt shots. However when we do they’re mostly all open.
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That is true. I wouldn't want to be the player who takes a highly contested three with a man all over him. Rick would chew on him all night.
 
#99
#99
orangemadam said:
Question for BTO, Chris, or anyone else out there that follow NBA and scouting, draft projections, etc.

In the next NBA draft, how many of our players are projected to go and which round? Thanks.
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Consensus seems to be Johnson and Springer 1st round, James and Pons 2nd round.
 
#100
#100
orangemadam said:
Question for BTO, Chris, or anyone else out there that follow NBA and scouting, draft projections, etc.

In the next NBA draft, how many of our players are projected to go and which round? Thanks.
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Keon and Jaden are first rounders whenever they decide to enter the draft. JJJ and Pons could go 1st, 2nd, or not drafted, depending on when they choose to declare. IMO JJJ has a better chance of the 1st round because of his versatility. Pons will need to upgrade his perimeter offense. Fulkerson is a long shot to get drafted but a huge year puts him in the mix.
 
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