What's the Case for Arizona as last #1?

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VolCalls said:
This is a little far fetched. UConn, Purdue, and Houston have been a cut above the rest all year, and it’s not close.
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Reasonable to say there's a clear demarcation between the top 3 and UT/Zona. It's why I'd rather be a 1 seed and delay those matchups as long as possible. Since my assumption that UT would be sent West to face Zona as the lowest 1 seed seems to be faulty, I'm gonna guess they stick us in the worst possible spot....Houston's bracket. Just wanted a shot to get to that point by being 1 seed. Do that and in a single game, you never know what might happen. Winning the darned thing is easier than just getting there it seems.
 
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One thing to keep in mind for those advocating for not wanting a 1-seed, I saw Jon Rothstein say this morning in his bracket preview that the one time Rick Barnes went to the Final Four was in 2003 when he also was a 1-seed. Not that it means much but just illustrates how important being the highest seed possible is.
 
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scottchatt said:
Obviously this is correct and I believe exactly how the committee will see it.

On a different note, 3 of our Q1 losses were in one week (roughly) and in each of those we won a half. This team could easily have been 11-2 in Q1, and have a win over a #1 seed. Not going to matter for selection, but it’s a good sign for our run. This team is better than their record.
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I also think it’s worth noting that Zeigler wasn’t even close to 100% in that stretch either, and that this team was still figuring out roles. You have to seed teams based on their whole resume, but yes, I do think we are a better team now that we were in November which is what you hope for obviously.
 
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Too close out the regular season Tennessee beat 4 ranked teams is the explanation the committee should give to AZ fans as to why they are not a one seed and Tennessee is the 1.

Works for UNC, Duke, Marquette as well.

It is the easier path in explanations.

One liner vs hem-hawing.
 
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Yes we want that 1W seed and if when we beat UK Saturday we will have gone 7-3 against the Committee's initial 16 with the likely hood of facing two in the SECT. Zona can't say that.

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Just read the blurb on Lunardi's latest bracket this morning:

Arizona and UCLA squared off Thursday night in Pauley Pavilion, bringing to a close the best basketball series in Pac-12 history. In a few months the Pac-12 itself will be history, victim of an evolution in college sports that values excess over common sense. We all get it -- money talks loudest -- but that doesn't mean we have to like it. But here's the thing: No one is talking about Arizona and the Pac-12 getting the last laugh. Even Bracketology is against them -- in this update, we're elevating Tennessee as the fourth No. 1 seed in place of the Wildcats. March seeding, though, at some point gives way to April winning. And it says here that Arizona and defending champion UConn will be the two highest-ceiling teams in the NCAA field. And only one of them would play what amounts to home games at the Final Four. Just sayin'...
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I think it's a little weird how melodramatic he's being about removing Arizona from the 1 line, almost like it hurts him personally to do it. Tennessee has the spot because the Vols deserve it—no need to wax poetic about the bygone days of the Pac-12.
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
Just read the blurb on Lunardi's latest bracket this morning:


I think it's a little weird how melodramatic he's being about removing Arizona from the 1 line, almost like it hurts him personally to do it. Tennessee has the spot because the Vols deserve it—no need to wax poetic about the bygone days of the Pac-12.
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It is weird, but it also helps explain why he's been so hesitant to back out on them. There definitely does seem to some sort of emotional connection based on that explanation, which is odd. Is Joe a closet Zona fan? 🤔 😆
 
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cncchris33 said:
It is weird, but it also helps explain why he's been so hesitant to back out on them. There definitely does seem to some sort of emotional connection based on that explanation, which is odd. Is Joe a closet Zona fan? 🤔 😆
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I didn’t realize that one of the official pieces of criteria for determining seeding is how sorry we feel about a team’s current conference predicament.

In all seriousness, this is just a very dumb argument. Implying that a team should be a 1-seed because this is the last dance for the PAC-12 is ridiculous.
 
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I'm also completely confused as to why he thinks UConn and Arizona are the two "highest ceiling" teams in the bracket, before a bracket has even been released. What metrics is he digging through to just spout out that as definitive fact?
 
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vols4lfe said:
I'm also completely confused as to why he thinks UConn and Arizona are the two "highest ceiling" teams in the bracket, before a bracket has even been released. What metrics is he digging through to just spout out that as definitive fact?
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He doesn’t have any metrics. Arizona is a good team but their ceiling is not the 2nd highest in the entire tournament.

I think it is pretty obvious that the core 3 (Purdue, UConn, Houston) all have higher ceilings and you could fairly easily argue that Kentucky’s ceiling as a team is higher as well. No roster in the country has more pure basketball talent than Kentucky, they just haven’t consistently shown it.
 
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