What's the Case for Arizona as last #1?

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VolPack22 said:
We now have more Q1 wins than Arizona with Florida jumping back into the top 30. Win vs Kentucky and we have the last 1 seed locked up 100%. The PAC-12 is looking to be a 2 bid conference, compare that to the SEC who will get at least 7 bids. It’s really becoming a situation where Arizona is having to make a case at this point. Add to the fact if Arizona loses to UCLA tonight and Washington State wins vs Washington, Washington State would be the 1 seed in that conference. That would automatically disqualify Arizona from 1 seed consideration imo.
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No doubt we have a better resume right now. Add a UK win or AZ loss and I think it’s a lock for us unless UNC sneaks into the discussion somehow but that would absolutely require us to lose to UK and that’s not happening. We got this!
 
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VolCalls said:
I’ve been very impressed with BYU. They won at Kansas last week, beat Baylor the week before that, thumped Iowa State by 15 when they met in Provo, and had them on the ropes again last night. The Cougars could do some serious damage in the NCAA Tournament.
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I watched a few minutes of them and Iowa St last night and I agree. They’re not going to be an easy out for anyone. The Big 12 is tough. Big 12 and SEC are far and away the best conferences.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Iowa State is good, but I think they are a 2/3 seed primed for an early upset. They have the 69th best offense in the sport. They are Houston-lite if defense was all Houston was good at.
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They sort of remind me of SC but 1-5 they’re quicker.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Ok? Like I posted, those teams are 12-3 or 11-3 in Q1, we are 8-5.
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Ok. Sorry. Didn't see the post on the Q1 records and didn't realize there was that disparity. Big 12 were labeled as the best conference before the season for good reason. It hasn't really played out that way in conference play. The SEC's x factor has been SC, who was picked last. They've actually made the SEC the best league. One of our worst teams beat Duke
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Ok. Sorry. Didn't see the post on the Q1 records and didn't realize there was that disparity. Big 12 were labeled as the best conference before the season for good reason. It hasn't really played out that way in conference play. The SEC's x factor has been SC, who was picked last. They've actually made the SEC the best league. One of our worst teams beat Duke
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Big 12 is still statistically considered the best conference fwiw
 
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Nothing will surprise me with what the Committee will do. They will find a way to justify it no matter what the case. Reminds me of a politician running for office. Basically, "Tell them what they want to hear and do what the hades you want." There is always some twist. I do believe sometimes Lunardi has an insider in the system. 1 or 2 seed who cares just win it all. A 2 seed may be a chip on the shoulder.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Nothing will surprise me with what the Committee will do. They will find a way to justify it no matter what the case. Reminds me of a politician running for office. Basically, "Tell them what they want to hear and do what the hades you want." There is always some twist. I do believe sometimes Lunardi has an insider in the system. 1 or 2 seed who cares just win it all. A 2 seed may be a chip on the shoulder.
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The politician comparison is about as accurate as it gets. That’s exactly what it feels like sometimes listening to them try to explain their reasonings. Makes zero sense most of the time and gives us as little information as possible. BUT, if we beat UK I don’t think they really have a choice but to put us on the 1-seed line. Or if Arizona loses another.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Ok. Going into Rupp and Coleman and handing them their asses isn't too impressive? Regardless, we're a solid 1 seed. You got to be kidding me with the "blind homerism" BS.
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We are a solid 1 seed, but we aren’t anywhere close to the “overall 1 seed” consideration when compared to the other three teams.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Ok? Like I posted, those teams are 12-3 or 11-3 in Q1, we are 8-5.
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Obviously this is correct and I believe exactly how the committee will see it.

On a different note, 3 of our Q1 losses were in one week (roughly) and in each of those we won a half. This team could easily have been 11-2 in Q1, and have a win over a #1 seed. Not going to matter for selection, but it’s a good sign for our run. This team is better than their record.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Might be confused on this, but I see UT as the top #2 seed if we're not a #1. That would put us in the same bracket with the lowest #1 seed which I'd assume to be AZ, no? We're headed west regardless? Yeah, I know this pod system will put us in Charlotte early, but then we'd head west anyway, right?
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This is how it works:

Procedures for Placing the Teams into the Bracket

1. The committee will place the four No. 1 seeds in each of the four regions, thus determining the Final Four semifinals pairings (overall 1 vs. 4; 2 vs. 3). The overall No. 1 seed has the opportunity to select its preferred first- and second-round site and preferred region.

2. The committee will then place the No. 2 seeds in each region in true seed list order. The committee may relax the principle of keeping teams as close to their area of natural interest for seeding teams on the No. 2 line to avoid, for example, the overall No. 5 seed being sent to the same region as the overall No. 1 seed. The committee will not compromise the principle of keeping teams from the same conference in separate regions.

3. The committee will then place the No. 3 seeds in each region in true seed list order.

4. The committee will then place the No. 4 seeds in each region in true seed list order.

5. After the top four seed lines have been assigned, the committee will review the relative strengths of the regions by adding the “true seed” numbers in each region to determine if any severe numerical imbalance exists. Generally, no more than five points should separate the lowest and highest total.

6. In “true seed” order, the committee then assigns each team (and, therefore, all teams in its bracket group—e.g., seeds 1, 8, 9, 16) to first-/second-round sites.

7. The committee will then place seeds Nos. 5-16 in the bracket, per the principles. The four teams assigned to the seed line, 5 through 16, will have the same numerical value.
 
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My outside take on this is that it really doesn’t matter. Yes, it would be great to have a #1 seed, but it certainly isn’t mandatory for the goals. IMHO this TN team can absolutely challenge for a NC. To realize that they will be forced to defeat many very good teams. It will make little difference whether they are a #1seed or a 2.

My point is that the goal is not to have a good showing in the tournament, the goal is to win the tournament. It’s a very hard thing to accomplish, but I honestly think you guys have a fair chance with the team you have! I’m not saying you should be disappointed with your guys if they don’t win. I’d be very proud of this Vols team no matter how it ends. As a Dawgs fan I’m jealous, but I do appreciate good basketball when I see it.
 
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What I think is absurd is using the RPI system because it changes as more games you play. Does anybody know where SC was when they beat us? Was that a Q1 or Q2? Also, KY is currently at 44. That’s a Q2 not a Q1.

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Dougie_D said:
What I think is absurd is using the RPI system because it changes as more games you play. Does anybody know where SC was when they beat us? Was that a Q1 or Q2? Also, KY is currently at 44. That’s a Q2 not a Q1.

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The RPI is a useless, outdated tool.

The system used now is the NET. Kentucky is well inside the top 30 and will safely and easily be a Q1 win or loss.

And to answer your question, the South Carolina loss in Knoxville is our sole Q2 loss.
 
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