I get you’re trying to move goalposts like D4H, but you’re not really good at it
That’s the point of the thread. Just stopThere's nothing being moved. It's a simple concept that has existed since the game was essentially rugby. In fact, the same rule still exists in rugby.
In fact, it's "moving the goalposts" to argue that the rule should be changed. The endzone is treated uniformly in all other dead ball situations. To say that it should be treated differently in the case of a fumble is to ignore the uniform standard.
That sounds like a great idea now, but I can only imagine the bellyaching when conference champs who are seen as weak teams get in, either by that conference overall being weak (like the Pac 12 this year) or by a big upset in a conference championship game. At some point, an 8-4 team ranked #25 would win a conference title game and automatically qualify, which would bump some at-large out of the top 8.4. We need an 8 team playoff. Take the 5 power conference winners and 3 at larges based on ranking.
I would be fine with that.That sounds like a great idea now, but I can only imagine the bellyaching when conference champs who are seen as weak teams get in, either by that conference overall being weak (like the Pac 12 this year) or by a big upset in a conference championship game. At some point, an 8-4 team ranked #25 would win a conference title game and automatically qualify, which would bump some at-large out of the top 8.
I was kinda mad when they flagged Ezekiel Elliot for that yesterday, but it was the right call. CFB should follow suit.1. The ongoing charade that the vast majority of these players are actual "student" athletes.
2. The unspoken double standard in rules thats in place to protect the money-maker programs while keeping the other programs at bay.
3. Targeting. The rule needs to be applied to offensive players who lead with the crown of their helmets (RB's), not just defensive players. Also the ejection rule is too severe imo.
4. We need an 8 team playoff. Take the 5 power conference winners and 3 at larges based on ranking.
So you aren't on board with the idea being to find the "four (or eight) best teams?"I would be fine with that.
Actually I'm not. I'm in favor of having the most deserving teams. IMO that means conference championships. If that means a 8-5 CC gets in so be it. Best teams is entirely too subjective IMO.So you aren't on board with the idea being to find the "four (or eight) best teams?"
I think that automatic bids are fine for college basketball, where there are 64 teams and lots of at-large spots, but not sure it is the best model for football. For example Washington would be in the playoff under this model as a conference champ - would they be #5 (weakest conference champ) or 6-8? Could an at-large be seeded higher than a conference champ? Currently, they are #9. I don't think they're a playoff team at all.