Where do you stand on players opting out of post-season games (with no injuries) to "prepare for the draft"?

Post-season opt outs (with no injury)

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#251
#251
This team is really close. They enjoy playing with their teammates. With the exception of Tillman, I think all will play in the bowl. However, anyone picking up an injury, even minor, they will then decide to sit out.
 
#252
#252
EasternVol said:
Football's not brutal. Fighting lions is brutal. Football's one of the rougher popular sports but the risk of serious injury in any one game is minimal.
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Hooker says hi. Tillman says hi.

Bo Jackson says “Bo knows single tackle career ending hits.”

Marcus Lattimore says “I tore every ligament in my knee and had nerve damage man. What’s your idea of brutal homie?”

Willis McGahee says “bruh my leg spun like a clock hand. I went 12 whole hours in one hit.”

The list of players who have been seriously injured on a single odd play is numerous.
 
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vols40 said:
I don't disagree but why not also sit out playoff games conference championship games as well as the last regular season game? What makes a bowl game more susceptible to injuries?
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I'm not the players. I don't own them. I'm not their parents, or agent. I can't speak for them. I just support their right to choose what they think is best for themselves. I wouldn't want anybody presuming to dictate what I can or can't do when faced with a choice that's purely my own business.

We claim football is a business. Then when players treat as such, we all huffed and puffed about them being selfish and unappreciative. Well, it is no different than a business assessing financial risk, determining if their investment is a worthwhile option or not, and taking the most acceptable and necessary or protective action. A case of maximizing profit, as it were. Long live capitalism!
 
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#255
#255
vols40 said:
And I don't disagree but when you (the athletes) opt out, you start paying your own way.
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They already did, for about 10- 11 games, but folks want to damn them for opting out of one game. A where all their work to achieve their ultimate goal can be easily ended with a single hit in that one meaningless game. Now, if those same folks are willing to pick up the slack from the lost income. Fine. But we know they're not so... What it boils down to is certain fans want their viewing pleasure, the outcome for the player be damned.
 
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Mccage said:
I'm willing to bet your grandpa would have the same opinion as me.
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He bounced between a couple different mining companies in VA then ended up retiring from a quarry in TN.

Went with whoever paid him the best and not some misguided sense of duty to a company that didn't give two s**ts about him or anything other than the bottom line.

Sounds kind of familiar given the topic of the thread. But then again, I can separate sports from real, every day life for the common person.
 
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NEO said:
Hooker says hi. Tillman says hi.

Bo Jackson says “Bo knows single tackle career ending hits.”

Marcus Lattimore says “I tore every ligament in my knee and had nerve damage man. What’s your idea of brutal homie?”

Willis McGahee says “bruh my leg spun like a clock hand. I went 12 whole hours in one hit.”

The list of players who have been seriously injured on a single odd play is numerous.
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Inky Johnson comes to mind.
 
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JoeMiltonsAgent said:
He bounced between a couple different mining companies in VA then ended up retiring from a quarry in TN.

Went with whoever paid him the best and not some misguided sense of duty to a company that didn't give two s**ts about him or anything other than the bottom line.

Sounds kind of familiar given the topic of the thread. But then again, I can separate sports from real, every day life for the common person.
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I'm a little confused then about you saying it's a huge business. Is business real everyday life? But your right football is a sport, one that's financed by fans. The common person works and pays for tickets, $20 beer, $5 bottle of water, hell they even buy the new Johnny football x box they see advertised on ESPN. I respect your view but it just seems to me a lot of these players are looking straight into the horses mouth.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
They already did, for about 10- 11 games, but folks want to damn them for opting out of one game. A where all their work to achieve their ultimate goal can be easily ended with a single hit in that one meaningless game. Now, if those same folks are willing to pick up the slack from the lost income. Fine. But we know they're not so... What it boils down to is certain fans want their viewing pleasure, the outcome for the player be damned.
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They have the same opportunity to be injured in the last regular season game and a conference championship. Once your done playing if not injured they or their agents can start to pay. That's not damning them that's life in a capitalist society. In this country we are given only opportunity well for now we are
 
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#263
WoodsmanVol said:
I'm not the players. I don't own them. I'm not their parents, or agent. I can't speak for them. I just support their right to choose what they think is best for themselves. I wouldn't want anybody presuming to dictate what I can or can't do when faced with a choice that's purely my own business.

We claim football is a business. Then when players treat as such, we all huffed and puffed about them being selfish and unappreciative. Well, it is no different than a business assessing financial risk, determining if their investment is a worthwhile option or not, and taking the most acceptable and necessary or protective action. A case of maximizing profit, as it were. Long live capitalism!
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Opt out for reasons only beneficial to you in any business and see what happens.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I'm not the players. I don't own them. I'm not their parents, or agent. I can't speak for them. I just support their right to choose what they think is best for themselves. I wouldn't want anybody presuming to dictate what I can or can't do when faced with a choice that's purely my own business.

We claim football is a business. Then when players treat as such, we all huffed and puffed about them being selfish and unappreciative. Well, it is no different than a business assessing financial risk, determining if their investment is a worthwhile option or not, and taking the most acceptable and necessary or protective action. A case of maximizing profit, as it were. Long live capitalism!
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You leaving out one little nugget here. The fans are the employers.
 
#265
#265
I can see where a player who has had an injury issue not risking to aggravate it. I hold no grudge for those type players. Players with no serious injuries in their history I would encourage them to play but if they don't I'm losing no sleep over it.
 
#267
#267
If the doesn't mean anything and the players have a chance for the nfl--playing in a bowl game is not worth the risk--unless they are trying to better market their skills for nfl scouts.
 
#268
#268
knox-townVOL said:
I have to say... I am firmly in the "I hate it" category.

I totally get that you want to not risk getting injured, but you aren't the only reason you have a shot at the NFL, your team had a lot to do with that as well. Are you a QB who the NFL wants in the first round? Well a big part of your success was your line blocking for you, and your receivers catching the ball. Are you a receiver? Your line blocked for your QB, who then threw you the ball.

Jauan Jennings will forever be a legend to this program, and hell would freeze over before that dude would ever sit out a post-season game. He had too much pride in himself and his team to abandon them, that's who you want on your team.

An example would be Alontae Taylor. I genuinely believe Heup finishes his first year at 8-5 with a bowl win if Alontae doesn't sit out. After his coaches/team helped him get some NFL attention, he costed them a loss and a disappointing end to a fun season.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but you stay until the job is done. See this thing through with your team, you're all in this together.
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What percentage of the fans that post Wild Bill meme's of "Well...........Bye" also voted that the good players should be held hostage in lower tiered bowls and risk their potential future income? What if the player has just graduated? Still gotta fulfill some 'scholarship' commitment? Opting out of a bowl game is not different that declaring for the transfer portal. The conferences do a really good job of locking the bowls up and the bowls have to take teams without starting quarterbacks for instance, like Tennessee and Clemson. I would hope that there is a discussion at the end of a grueling regular season between players, coaches and medical staff about the health of individual players and the risk presented by playing in a bowl game. Wait until there's a 12 team playoff and a couple more games are added.
 
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vols40 said:
They have the same opportunity to be injured in the last regular season game and a conference championship. Once your done playing if not injured they or their agents can start to pay. That's not damning them that's life in a capitalist society. In this country we are given only opportunity well for now we are
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Whatever, dude, players make their own personal decisions, whether we like it or not. Just like any businessman. It's a free country (in theory) after all.
 
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#270
vols40 said:
Opt out for reasons only beneficial to you in any business and see what happens.
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HAW, HAW, HAW, how do you think Terry Finley, Dana Sinkler and Alex Dzieduszycki , Paul English, Andy Schamisso, Shep and Ian Murray, Rick Wetzel and Bill Phelps, Andy Schamisso, Kim and Beaver Raymond, Rocky Patel, just to name a few, made their money? They all quit very good, very high paying jobs to venture into something else, and filthy rich. The opt-out players are no different. Long live capitalism!!!
 
#271
#271
I would hate to pay NIL benefits all season then have that player pull up in the biggest event. Who will buy my doughnuts?
 
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Mccage said:
You leaving out one little nugget here. The fans are the employers.
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Nope. We're customers who pay for a product, which is to watch them p[lay a game. The employers are, the state if money if scholarship money is provided by the state, the school if grant or endowment money is provided by the school, and/or the federal government if money is provided by federal funds associated with their major field of study. As a customer, you can opt to reject the product by not paying for a ticket and now with NIL, associated items or events they participate. As a seller, they can refuse to serve a customer. It's capitalism at its finest.
 
#273
#273
If it were my son looking at a NFL opportunity, it is business.

To me, it is similar to early enrollees to UT.
 
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DaddyChad said:
How many fans have ever played major college football? Played in pain, barely been able to walk after a game, had medical attention or rehab after playing?

It’s laughable that some question the integrity of those that have given far more to the program than we ever have. Some of these kids can make life changing money bc of the sacrifices they’ve made for this program.
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Almost everyone here would love a chance to play for Tennessee. It's a trash move to quit on your team.
 
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