Where have all the trolls come from?

#26
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Good, now go ahead and attack me. I don't have my head in the sand, and I can certainly handle the truth, whether it's about poor coaching or other issues with the team. I'm also displeased with these things. All I'm asking is that rants about Holly, Hart, etc, not disrupt game threads and other basketball-related discussions. Right now there are at least 15-20 other threads on the first page where coaching and need for a change in coaching are under discussion.
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
Good, now go ahead and attack me. I don't have my head in the sand, and I can certainly handle the truth, whether it's about poor coaching or other issues with the team. I'm also displeased with these things. All I'm asking is that rants about Holly, Hart, etc, not disrupt game threads and other basketball-related discussions. Right now there are at least 15-20 other threads on the first page where coaching and need for a change in coaching are under discussion.
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Are endless posts about Diamond being a selfish player allowed, or are only you allowed to post those?
 
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And you're deliberately missing the point. I know your reading comprehension is better than that.
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
Good, now go ahead and attack me. I don't have my head in the sand, and I can certainly handle the truth, whether it's about poor coaching or other issues with the team. I'm also displeased with these things. All I'm asking is that rants about Holly, Hart, etc, not disrupt game threads and other basketball-related discussions. Right now there are at least 15-20 other threads on the first page where coaching and need for a change in coaching are under discussion.
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My post #14 you reference- came from a direct quote of Holly by the in-game broadcasters.
 
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#30
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I also don't see anyone "attacking" you. It's just really sad that things are so bad that the forum is full of of the negativity. This season was supposed to be the season we returned to the final four. So much talent, so much promise.
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
And you're deliberately missing the point. I know your reading comprehension is better than that.
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I get your point. But when watching the team stink it up, there will be one of 2 responses: "Holly sucks!" or "Player X sucks!". It's almost impossible to comment without voicing opinions for one of the two. As tiresome as it may be, I think the anti-Holly rhetoric will die down when she does something to deserve a reprieve.
 
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Oh look, another holier than thou thread, where dissenting opinions are labeled as trolls. Bashing others for rarely posting in the LV forum while simultaneously only posting in the LV forum is ironic. Since when are we only fans of one gender of the university's athletic programs?
 
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It's like I said in another thread, for many, UT sports is above faith and family and their happiness is tied to the success or failure of the program..that's alot of pressure to put on 18-21 year olds..I recommend that these folks get a new hobby
 
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VolnJC said:
It's like I said in another thread, for many UT sports is above faith and family and their happiness is tied to the success or failure of the program..that's alot of pressure to put on 18-21 kids...I recommend that these folks get a new hobby
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You say this like its a bad thing. Smdh 😀
 
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vols 30 said:
You say this like its a bad thing. Smdh ��
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It is a bad thing when a team losing a few games causes a meltdown..There will come a time in your life when something, like a serious illness or death of a loved one, a team barely winning a game is not one of those times. Holly has been as successful as Pat over the last four years, yet gets 10 times the grief.
 
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VolnJC said:
It is a bad thing when a team losing a few games causes a meltdown..There will come a time in your life when something, like a serious illness or death of a loved one, a team barely winning a game is not one of those times. Holly has been as successful as Pat over the last four years, yet gets 10 times the grief.
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Ok, now you're just not making rational sense. I have never, in my 9 years on any of the Volnation forums, seen a fan suggest winning or losing a game in any sport was more important than issues of life or death.

Second, Holly will never be Pat Summit. No one will. However, Holly has stated numerous times she knew what she was getting into- the expectations especially. This was always going to be holly's make or break year. This is her first time with "her players."

SC has 7 All Americans and is 24-1 on the season. We have 8, and are 15-10. There's a few other concerning things that suggest Holly doesn't get it. I could list them for you but it wouldn't matter. At the end of the season the only thing she will be judged off of are wins and losses - and we will end the season with the most losses of any lady Vol team in history. That's with 8 All Americans and a preseason ranking of #4. Now unranked for the first time in 30 years.

At what point does Holly have to be held accountable? How much farther does the program have to fall?
 
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Volstylexx said:
Ok, now you're just not making rational sense. I have never, in my 9 years on any of the Volnation forums, seen a fan suggest winning or losing a game in any sport was more important than issues of life or death.

Second, Holly will never be Pat Summit. No one will. However, Holly has stated numerous times she knew what she was getting into- the expectations especially. This was always going to be holly's make or break year. This is her first time with "her players."

SC has 7 All Americans and is 24-1 on the season. We have 8, and are 15-10. There's a few other concerning things that suggest Holly doesn't get it. I could list them for you but it wouldn't matter. At the end of the season the only thing she will be judged off of are wins and losses - and we will end the season with the most losses of any lady Vol team in history. That's with 8 All Americans and a preseason ranking of #4. Now unranked for the first time in 30 years.

At what point does Holly have to be held accountable? How much farther does the program have to fall?
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Duke and Kentucky have alot of AAs too..and both have struggled at times this season
 
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VolnJC said:
It is a bad thing when a team losing a few games causes a meltdown..There will come a time in your life when something, like a serious illness or death of a loved one, a team barely winning a game is not one of those times. Holly has been as successful as Pat over the last four years, yet gets 10 times the grief.
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You are in serious need of some comforting counselling because you just do not share the same feelings that us serious fans have,ie I have been a fan since 1948 ( football/basketball ) and Women's BB since 1977 and Pat Summitt did indeed build my expectations for the Lady Vols to be a contender for the National Championship every year.

Being 77 years young I have experienced many ups and downs of loved ones being seriously ill and some have died.I myself have been close to death several times but has not taken the ardor or passion I have for UT's Sports teams.Fact is I am proud of my fandom....appears to me that you lack the passion to be a serious Vol/Lady Vol fan and thus do not qualify for such status....jmo.By the way 10 losses are record setting for this [/program and 11 will be even more record setting.
 
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Volstylexx said:
Ok, now you're just not making rational sense. I have never, in my 9 years on any of the Volnation forums, seen a fan suggest winning or losing a game in any sport was more important than issues of life or death.

Second, Holly will never be Pat Summit. No one will. However, Holly has stated numerous times she knew what she was getting into- the expectations especially. This was always going to be holly's make or break year. This is her first time with "her players."

SC has 7 All Americans and is 24-1 on the season. We have 8, and are 15-10. There's a few other concerning things that suggest Holly doesn't get it. I could list them for you but it wouldn't matter. At the end of the season the only thing she will be judged off of are wins and losses - and we will end the season with the most losses of any lady Vol team in history. That's with 8 All Americans and a preseason ranking of #4. Now unranked for the first time in 30 years.

At what point does Holly have to be held accountable? How much farther does the program have to fall?
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I'm not a Holly supporter..I'm a "current UT coach supporter" I honestly thought she would be better at X and Os than she has shown..I'd give her one more year(because this could be an outlier) and then try to hire Vic Schaefer
 
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VolnJC said:
Duke and Kentucky have alot of AAs too..and both have struggled at times this season
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And neither have the history or the expectations of TN. Kentucky has never advanced past the elite 8, Duke has never won a National Championship. Also, neither has 8.. Eight... All Americans (including a number one recruit) and National Freshman player of the year.

SC is the best barometer to measure this team against and if you watched that game, the announcers made it very clear that a transition and "changing of the guard" had occurred in the Sec. TN is no longer an elite team in the nation, and no longer the pre eminent team in the SEC.... And that should be concerning to any fan of TN athletics.
 
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Volstylexx said:
Ok, now you're just not making rational sense. I have never, in my 9 years on any of the Volnation forums, seen a fan suggest winning or losing a game in any sport was more important than issues of life or death.

Second, Holly will never be Pat Summit. No one will. However, Holly has stated numerous times she knew what she was getting into- the expectations especially. This was always going to be holly's make or break year. This is her first time with "her players."

SC has 7 All Americans and is 24-1 on the season. We have 8, and are 15-10. There's a few other concerning things that suggest Holly doesn't get it. I could list them for you but it wouldn't matter. At the end of the season the only thing she will be judged off of are wins and losses - and we will end the season with the most losses of any lady Vol team in history. That's with 8 All Americans and a preseason ranking of #4. Now unranked for the first time in 30 years.

At what point does Holly have to be held accountable? How much farther does the program have to fall?
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Don't forget 0 recruits for 2016.:crazy:

No one wants to play for her. This season thus far just proves why.
 
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alexvol said:
You are in serious need of some comforting counselling because you just do not share the same feelings that us serious fans have,ie I have been a fan since 1948 ( football/basketball ) and Women's BB since 1977 and Pat Summitt did indeed build my expectations for the Lady Vols to be a contender for the National Championship every year.

Being 77 years young I have experienced many ups and downs of loved ones being seriously ill and some have died.I myself have been close to death several times but has not taken the ardor or passion I have for UT's Sports teams.Fact is I am proud of my fandom....appears to me that you lack the passion to be a serious Vol/Lady Vol fan and thus do not qualify for such status....jmo.By the way 10 losses are record setting for this [/program and 11 will be even more record setting.
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Oh believe me. I've felt the gut punch of losses before..2005 LSU and that short blonde pitcher in the 2007 WCWS..but what can you do? Holly will not be fired this year so I hope she finds a way to turn it around..she has been fairly successful the first 3 years (3 championships, 2 E8s, 80% winning percentage)
 
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Volstylexx said:
And neither have the history or the expectations of TN. Kentucky has never advanced past the elite 8, Duke has never won a National Championship. Also, neither has 8.. Eight... All Americans (including a number one recruit) and National Freshman player of the year.

SC is the best barometer to measure this team against and if you watched that game, the announcers made it very clear that a transition and "changing of the guard" had occurred in the Sec. TN is no longer an elite team in the nation, and no longer the pre eminent team in the SEC.... And that should be concerning to any fan of TN athletics.
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I'm talking men's basketball..both have lost 6 games and spent time outside the top 25
 
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VolnJC said:
I'm talking men's basketball..both have lost 6 games and spent time outside the top 25
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You can't compare men's basketball to womens. That's like comparing apples to oranges, but for arguments sake, I'll bite.

Both those programs have recent national championships. Both have elite coaches who get the benefit of the doubt and time to improve (and both have as the season progressed).

TN hasn't been to a final 4 in 8 years. Holly has no "credit" built up- she hasn't won anything of relevance... And she has had plenty of time to show that she can turn things around. In fact, this team has regressed as the season has progressed.
 
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Volstylexx said:
You can't compare men's basketball to womens. That's like comparing apples to oranges, but for arguments sake, I'll bite.

Both those programs have recent national championships. Both have elite coaches who get the benefit of the doubt and time to improve (and both have as the season progressed).

TN hasn't been to a final 4 in 8 years. Holly has no "credit" built up- she hasn't won anything of relevance... And she has had plenty of time to show that she can turn things around. In fact, this team has regressed as the season has progressed.
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Can't argue with any of that..I've heard Mickey( I know he is a Holly defender) say that he thinks the year off hurt Russell and Deshields alot..but who knows
 
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Volstylexx said:
Ok, now you're just not making rational sense. I have never, in my 9 years on any of the Volnation forums, seen a fan suggest winning or losing a game in any sport was more important than issues of life or death.

Second, Holly will never be Pat Summit. No one will. However, Holly has stated numerous times she knew what she was getting into- the expectations especially. This was always going to be holly's make or break year. This is her first time with "her players."

SC has 7 All Americans and is 24-1 on the season. We have 8, and are 15-10. There's a few other concerning things that suggest Holly doesn't get it. I could list them for you but it wouldn't matter. At the end of the season the only thing she will be judged off of are wins and losses - and we will end the season with the most losses of any lady Vol team in history. That's with 8 All Americans and a preseason ranking of #4. Now unranked for the first time in 30 years.

At what point does Holly have to be held accountable? How much farther does the program have to fall?
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100% right on!
 
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VolnJC said:
Can't argue with any of that..I've heard Mickey( I know he is a Holly defender) say that he thinks the year off hurt Russell and Deshields alot..but who knows
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what Mickey ? this one ?
 
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