Where were all of the rational posters before the season?

#26
#26
There were several.

Okay then. But I'm Full Butch and think Butch gets it and all that stuff, and I didn't pick those upsets.

I am probably just burned out on these threads, from both sides, and should just quietly exit stage left.
 
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#28
#28
Okay then. But I'm Full Butch and think Butch gets it and all that stuff, and I didn't pick those upsets.

I am probably just burned out on these threads, from both sides, and should just quietly exit stage left.

I'm Full Vol.
 
#30
#30
I'm full Butch and expected 6-6 at best. Some here apparently believe coaching can turn sub-par SEC players into world beaters.

As of now we don't have any style points, sure. But we'll get better, and I see improvement in the way the kids are handling things. Attitude is a huge part of football, and I see that changing for the better.

We've lost to arguably the best team in cfb, and a legit Top 15 team with the best defense in cfb. Anyone that expected to win those games wasn't being realistic. Patience is virtue.

6-6 is/was a realistic expectation. My question was, do you feel better about this team after the WKU game or the USA game?
 
#31
#31
The defense really isn't better. With the exception of APSU and a 2 minute stretch of the WKU game our D has pretty much sucked.

I disagree. We still can't contain a centenarian on the edges, but the DT play and LB play has been better against the run. AJ struggles in pass coverage, but Sapp has been serviceable. Brent Brewer is actually playing some ball this year too. And we have corners that can actually break on the ball. We're not great, but no denying that we're better.
 
#32
#32
I assume most of us posting here are, apart from a few of our friendly rivals that post.

I agree. Not bashing but I don't care for "Full Butch" or any other coach thing. I want the Vols to be successful. Nitpicking perhaps, but it's just a pet peeve of mine.
 
#33
#33
I agree that the 2nd half was tough to watch. But I do think this team is better in some ways than last year. Obviously we lost a ton of talent on offense. But this team does not quit. Yes I know about the 2nd half. But what about at Florida. Last year they would have folded. They had alot of fight and did not give up. Our defense is better too. Not saying great at all....but better. Our running game is much better than last year....wish we had run more Saturday. But we have to get the throwing game going. Croom, Pig and North are going to be great I think. We just have to get the ball to them. But yes, I do think we are better. And I guess that just shows how far we have fallen. Sorry, I just get so tired of the negativity. Lets support our coaches and players and do something against Ga to build on.

Did last year's team give up at UGA last year? They were down double digits multiple times in that game and damn near came back.

But thanks for answering the question and giving reasons.

We all love the Vols but getting smoked by our biggest rivals and getting drug up and down the field by Sunbelt teams is getting old!
 
#35
#35
Boca to answer your question, I don't feel better after the SA game. I can at least find comfort knowing Dooley is a cowboy ( in his mind and real life BTW ).
 
#36
#36
Boca to answer your question, I don't feel better after the SA game. I can at least find comfort knowing Dooley is a cowboy ( in his mind and real life BTW ).

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

The sad thing is he's making a sh&t ton of money doing it!
 
#38
#38
I assume most of us posting here are, apart from a few of our friendly rivals that post.

Sadly many of the rivals that post here are more objective about our team than some of the supposed die hard fans.

I have yet to see any of our guest teams commenting on how much:

Worley/Peterman sucks

Butch Jones sucks

Team sucks

We have no quarterback

Coaching staff as a whole sucks

Our VLF members should be revoked because they actually took their family's concerns into account

We should play Dobbs, Peterman (prior to Florida) or Ferguson

And most recognize our program has hit record lows but believe we can rise back into contention once again.

Pretty bad day when Florida fans get on here and say nicer things about our team than our own "fans" do.
 
#42
#42
It is funny how before the season started if you said anything just a little bit negative you got jumped, now you cant say anything positive without getting jumped!
 
#43
#43
I've seen some stupid threads and probably have started some but whoa. You win.

Really? This is the most stupid thread started on this board?

I simply asked a question. I noticed you didn't bother to answer it.
 
#44
#44
I agree. Not bashing but I don't care for "Full Butch" or any other coach thing. I want the Vols to be successful. Nitpicking perhaps, but it's just a pet peeve of mine.

Understandable I suppose.

Sadly many of the rivals that post here are more objective about our team than some of the supposed die hard fans.

I have yet to see any of our guest teams commenting on how much:

Worley/Peterman sucks

Butch Jones sucks

Team sucks

We have no quarterback

Coaching staff as a whole sucks

Our VLF members should be revoked because they actually took their family's concerns into account

We should play Dobbs, Peterman (prior to Florida) or Ferguson

And most recognize our program has hit record lows but believe we can rise back into contention once again.

Pretty bad day when Florida fans get on here and say nicer things about our team than our own "fans" do.

The people I know personally who are always yelling about how everybody on our team sucks are probably some of the most passionate Tennessee fans I know. But without knowing them personally, it's hard to know how translate those types of comments on a message board.
 
#46
#46
Sadly many of the rivals that post here are more objective about our team than some of the supposed die hard fans.

I have yet to see any of our guest teams commenting on how much:

Worley/Peterman sucks

Butch Jones sucks

Team sucks

We have no quarterback

Coaching staff as a whole sucks

Our VLF members should be revoked because they actually took their family's concerns into account

We should play Dobbs, Peterman (prior to Florida) or Ferguson

And most recognize our program has hit record lows but believe we can rise back into contention once again.

Pretty bad day when Florida fans get on here and say nicer things about our team than our own "fans" do.

There's a thread started by a Gator fan on the 1st page called, "here's the deal folks."

He's basically saying UT sucks in a "we all tried to tell you so" way.
 
#48
#48
There were plenty of people talking about adjusting expectations before the season started. I guess we see what we want to see.
 
#49
#49
Did last year's team give up at UGA last year? They were down double digits multiple times in that game and damn near came back.

But thanks for answering the question and giving reasons.

We all love the Vols but getting smoked by our biggest rivals and getting drug up and down the field by Sunbelt teams is getting old!

You are right....we almost beat Ga. For some reason we always play Ga very well.....and I am not giving up on Saturday. Yes, it is getting very old because we do all love the Vols. I just still believe in Butch Jones. If we can hold them he has done an amazing job recruiting. He needs the players to run his system. I was hoping for 6-6 this year....and am still hoping for that. We all want the glory days to come back.
 
#50
#50
The people I know personally who are always yelling about how everybody on our team sucks are probably some of the most passionate Tennessee fans I know. But without knowing them personally, it's hard to know how translate those types of comments on a message board.

Yep, hard to see inflection through a computer monitor.
 

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