Which team gets left out of the playoffs

#26
#26
wait, I thought they said a playoff would solve all the problems cause they settled it on the field. You mean there's more controversy?......



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#27
#27
wait, I thought they said a playoff would solve all the problems cause they settled it on the field. You mean there's more controversy?......



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Yeah because that's what everyone said.

But please, continue to act like arguing over 2 teams > arguing over 4 teams.
 
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#30
#30
I think an 8 team playoff is coming. You take the 5 P5 conference champions as automatic bids and pick 3 at large. Then rank them by power rankings and let them fight it out on the field.
 
#32
#32
Please show me where winning a conference championship or not dictates who is chosen to play in the playoffs. It does carry some weight, but this system was designed speciafically to take the best 4 teams in the country no matter if they win the conference championship or not.

Please show me where I f'n said that. Look at my first sentence in what you responded to. Sheesh
 
#34
#34
It was shortsighted to go with a four team playoff in a system with five "power" conferences. I get why they did it, but the controversy we've had since (and today) was foreseeable.

Then they moved the bar from year to year. Conference championship counts; not having a conference championship game counts; now it counts, but not all that much; body of work and schedule strength more important; etc, etc.

And a non-Power 5 team has virtually no chance of ever seeing a CFP berth. The SEC Champ and and the Big10 "darlings" would have to be 10-3 for there to even be a chance.

Just go with 8 teams. All P5 champs, plus 3 at-large teams. Use the old BCS system to pick the at-large teams, and set the seedings for all 8. No system can account for all of the variables and be truly "fair", but that's about as good as it can get.

Or cut the regular season back to 11 games, plus a conference championship, and then go with a 4 + 8 format, similar to what FCS does. Bottom 8 play 1st round, then seed the bracket and play an 8 team playoff. Allows more than one team from a given conference; gives non-P5 schools a realistic chance; and all but guarantees that you've included the best 8 teams out there. Yes, could be as many as 16 games for two teams, but we're already at 15 for those same two teams. Would you not trade one more game to get 8 more teams? I'll bet the teams would.

Go Vols.
 
#35
#35
I have two issues:
1) it seems comparing two teams usually starts with championships and head to head result. That favors Penn State in both. Total losses favors OSU. To further make the case for OSU, you have to start using more subjective measures, i.e. The look test, who do you "think" would win now?
2) it makes winning a conference championship meaningless. Even more so if somehow Washington is left out as well. There would be absolutely no reason to continue playing those extra games. Might as well just expand the playoffs and use regular season records only.
 
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#37
#37
If it was up to me, Penn State football would not exist, but the fact is that they won the Big10 conference, and they are about to be left out of the playoff in favor of another Big10 team they beat en route to the conference championship.

Ricky Bobby was wrong. 2nd place is not the first loser. Not in the CFP.

Go Vols.
 
#43
#43
It's official:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Washington
5. Penn State
6. Michigan
 
#44
#44
Penn State got screwed. The CFP committee basically just told everyone that conference championships don't mean squat anymore.
 
#47
#47
Kannel is right. OSU got in because of their brand. Flip PSU and OSU, with PSU 11-1 and OSU 11-2 and conference champs and OSU still gets in.
 
#50
#50
11-1>10-2. That's a pretty stationary goalpost buddy

You mean 11-1 > 11-2 Conference Champion and beat the 11-1 team head to head.

I'm going to guess replace OSU with Florida and Penn St. with Tennessee, and you'd be going ape sh## over this.
 

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