White on White Violence

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luthervol said:
Your premise is not only faulty because it ignores the role of state and fed, it is also faulty because it rests on the assumption that big cities are somehow failing. Check out real estate values; capitalism and the all mighty dollar can paint the picture.
Next would be the unknown of how things would differ had cities been under republican law makers.
Lastly, as I asked yesterday "how bad must the republican choices be if they cannot beat out these horrible democratic choices?"

Provide better ideas and better choices.

Mick is comparing the size of the hole with the size of the boat, which is appropriate.


Sorry for the combined response. My dog distracted me.
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It doesn’t matter the size of the boat if you can’t recognize the bigger problem.
 
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Mick said:
I've not made any claim about conservative cities, just the narrative that it's the democrats fault black communities suffer. That was you.
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Let’s play a game ... If the urban problems, are in the urban cities , controlled for decades and decades by liberals and the Dem party .. let’s blame ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
Let’s play a game ... If the urban problems, are in the urban cities , controlled for decades and decades by liberals and the Dem party .. let’s blame ?
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Or.....if the urban successes are in the urban cities controlled for decades and decades by liberals and the Dem party....let's blame?
 
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0nelilreb said:
Let’s play a game ... If the urban problems, are in the urban cities , controlled for decades and decades by liberals and the Dem party .. let’s blame ?
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Or this game.......Why can republicans not come up with policies that appeal to an urban population?
 
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0nelilreb said:
You are calling success .. burning , looting , killing , destruction and defunding / disbanding the PDs . Maybe your bar is a little lower than mine .
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Of course I'm not calling those things successes. That's insane.

Here is an example of what you are doing.
Person 1. "You know, the US has a pretty good interstate and highway system."
You. "You're calling 1,857 fatalities a success?"
 
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k-town_king said:
FBI Releases 2018 NIBRS Crime Data as Transition to NIBRS 2021 Continues — FBI
FBI does and has always disagreed.
Victims

Victim types, collected for all reported NIBRS offenses, include individuals, businesses, institutions, or society as a whole. For 2018, the data regarding victims who were individuals revealed the following:

  • Of the 4,720,900 individuals, 23.5 percent were between 21 and 30 years of age.
  • A little more than half (51.1 percent) were female, 48.1 percent were male, and the gender of 0.8 percent of victims was unknown.
  • Most victims (69.6 percent) were white, 21.6 percent were black or African-American, 1.9 percent were Asian, 0.7 percent were American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.4 percent were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. The race of 5.8 percent of victims was unknown.
Known Offenders

In 2018, law enforcement identified and reported information on 5,652,156 known offenders, meaning some aspect of the suspect—such as age, gender, or race—was known.

  • Of these offenders, 40.2 percent were between 16 and 30 years of age.
  • By gender, most offenders (61.5 percent) were male, 25.5 percent were female, and gender for 13.0 percent was unknown.
  • By race, more than half (53.9 percent) of known offenders were white, 27.4 percent were black or African-American, and 2.2 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 16.5 percent of reported known offenders.
Victim-to-Offender Relationships

Concerning the relationship of victims to known offenders, there were 1,593,326 victims of crimes against persons (e.g., murders, sex offenses, assault offenses) and robbery offenses from the crimes against property category.

  • More than half (51.0 percent) of the victims knew their offenders (or at least one offender when more than one was present) but did not have a familial relationship to them.
  • Nearly one quarter (24.7 percent) of the victims were related to their offenders (or at least one offender when more than one was present).
Arrestees

Law enforcement agencies submitted data to the UCR Program through incident reports and arrest reports for 3,480,625 arrestees.

  • Of these arrestees, 32.5 percent were 21 to 30 years of age.
  • By gender, 71.4 percent were male, and 28.6 percent were female.
  • By race, most arrestees (69.6 percent) were white, 24.7 percent were black or African-American, and 2.9 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 2.8 percent of arrestees.







There is a small percentage of the black population that actually commits crimes. Most who do are multiple offenders that count several times in crime stats.
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You do realize only 46% of police agencies currently report their stats to this new program... Right?
 
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luthervol said:
Of course I'm not calling those things successes. That's insane.

Here is an example of what you are doing.
Person 1. "You know, the US has a pretty good interstate and highway system."
You. "You're calling 1,857 fatalities a success?"
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Here’s what you are doing that sounds just ludicrous to me ... all major urban cities have been ran for multiple decades by one party and even though it’s citizens are trying to burn them to the ground now for horrible laws and policies they set ... it’s really not the Dems fault because, well the feds won’t let us do what we want . On a side note .. it’s seems like if that’s the case the feds are the only thing stopping all out total destruction of your cities by keeping your party from being even worse leaders.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Here’s what you are doing that sounds just ludicrous to me ... all major urban cities have been ran for multiple decades by one party and even though it’s citizens are trying to burn them to the ground now for horrible laws and policies they set ... it’s really not the Dems fault because, well the feds won’t let us do what we want . On a side note .. it’s seems like if that’s the case the feds are the only thing stopping all out total destruction of your cities by keeping your party from being even worse leaders.
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How do the Republicans get their vote? You have avoided this question like the plague. What policies would you entice them with?
 
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luthervol said:
Of course I'm not calling those things successes. That's insane.

Here is an example of what you are doing.
Person 1. "You know, the US has a pretty good interstate and highway system."
You. "You're calling 1,857 fatalities a success?"
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And we thought you did not care about folks being killed.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Here’s what you are doing that sounds just ludicrous to me ... all major urban cities have been ran for multiple decades by one party and even though it’s citizens are trying to burn them to the ground now for horrible laws and policies they set ... it’s really not the Dems fault because, well the feds won’t let us do what we want . On a side note .. it’s seems like if that’s the case the feds are the only thing stopping all out total destruction of your cities by keeping your party from being even worse leaders.
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You seem to think cities are much worse than they actually are.
You are letting the actions of a very few cloud your perspective of the whole.
That's like me thinking all rural people are uneducated crack heads and then blaming it on local republican leadership.
 
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Mick said:
How do the Republicans get their vote? You have avoided this question like the plague. What policies would you entice them with?
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You’re not going to entice them by telling them you’ll bring more jobs, lower taxes, increase law enforcement, improve education, etc. These people are all about emotion and impervious to realities outside of their urban bubble.....or even inside of it.
 
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Mick said:
How do the Republicans get their vote? You have avoided this question like the plague. What policies would you entice them with?
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How do republicans get their vote for leadership positions in urban cities ? obviously they don’t . I personally wouldn’t entice them at all , history has shown us that large urban city dwellers are liberals that just don’t really care about how bad their leaders are , or how bad their leaders policies are . That’s blatantly obvious because they keep voting in the same party every election . I’m personally not looking for the solution for a large mass of people that have dug their own holes and aren’t interested in changing leadership .
 
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