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NurseGoodVol said:
I have a point, it flew over you. States have interesting things called cities in them. If the state isn't reporting then it's not reporting its cities.
Most of the high crime cities aren't part of that 46% of agencies calculated in the NIBRS database yet.
The commonality of states I posted is most aren't qualified yet. It has nothing to do with party affiliation.
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Trust me, you don't have a point unless it's a simple the NIBRS doesn't have all the data from every police department because they are not yet participating. That would be agreeable but you seem to be suggesting that certain cities are fudging their number.
 
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Weezer said:
Luther has trouble with the concept of "sheep". Some people are conditioned to vote the party line, no matter what. And yes, luther, they exist on both sides.
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See my post above....it was the exact point I was attempting to show.
I fully understand the concept of "sheep" and am aware of the sheepishness continuum of both sides.
 
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luthervol said:
See my post above....it was the exact point I was attempting to show.
I fully understand the concept of "sheep" and am aware of the sheepishness continuum of both sides.
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Somehow I doubt that.
 
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southgatevol said:
Because people, not everyone but definitely some on this board, voting for the bad dems are not very intelligent? They keep voting in the bad dems expecting a different result than has occurred in the past? Because they vote for the "d" above all else regardless of common sense pointing to the fact it might be a bad decision?
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Sometimes the only explanation seems to be "the voters must really be stupid".
 
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luthervol said:
I'm really only highlighting how it sounds when Trumper's say...........
"If Trump is so bad, what does it say about Hillary."
or
"If you want to beat Trump, put up a better candidate with better ideas."

You seem to be saying that regardless of ideas put forward, the overwhelmingly conservative voters in rural areas are going to continue to vote Trump and whine about the people who hate him while claiming the anti-Trumpers are the ones being divisive.
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The people in rural areas aren't dealing with enormous crime, bad schools or mass protests/looting. Why should they change who they vote for?
 
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Mick said:
Trust me, you don't have a point unless it's a simple the NIBRS doesn't have all the data from every police department because they are not yet participating. That would be agreeable but you seem to be suggesting that certain cities are fudging their number.
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Your first sentence was the point.
I never even implied any such thing about cities fudging numbers that remain unreported.
The data is incomplete with major cities and metropolitan areas not reported. Therefore citing this database in an argument is useless. K town didn't do any research on it or due diligence before citing it.
 
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luthervol said:
Sometimes the only explanation seems to be "the voters must really be stupid".
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Both parties rely on this. Why do you think they keep offering up horrible candidates? Do you really think Biden is the best the Dems could offer up? And yes, before you get all "muh Trump", the same is true for him.
 
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luthervol said:
Are you serious?
It was exactly my point.
It's not always easy leading a horse to the water...but in the PF, it's a fun exercise.
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Arrogance and ignorance pour like the mighty Nile from your mouth (keyboard) when (common) sense and thoughtfulness seep from your brain like a single drop on the vast Sahara plain.
 
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Sea Ray said:
The people in rural areas aren't dealing with enormous crime, bad schools or mass protests/looting. Why should they change who they vote for?
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Because the educated youth are fleeing, the towns are economically dying, the schools are poor, and drug addiction is epidemic.

I hope you understand the two views we expressed are equally true or equally false.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Your first sentence was the point.
I never even implied any such thing about cities fudging numbers that remain unreported.
The data is incomplete with major cities and metropolitan areas not reported. Therefore citing this database in an argument is useless. K town didn't do any research on it or due diligence before citing it.
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Apparently you did zero research and dismissed the best and I mean the most comprehensive database because it didn't paint the picture you liked. That about sums up your participation.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm really only highlighting how it sounds when Trumper's say...........
"If Trump is so bad, what does it say about Hillary."
or
"If you want to beat Trump, put up a better candidate with better ideas."

You seem to be saying that regardless of ideas put forward, the overwhelmingly conservative voters in rural areas are going to continue to vote Trump and whine about the people who hate him while claiming the anti-Trumpers are the ones being divisive.
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Are the rural areas being burned , looted , and destroyed ? Let’s apply that standard to all city and rural . Why are is one far out pacing the other in voting for one party because of the letter behind the name . Why does county and states historically swap leader positions but big urban cities historically stay the same ? I find it hard to believe that urban cities who haven’t elected an R as a leader in 30,40,50, or 100 years could find the audacity to blame someone else for their problems . I will add that it’s just as amazing for me to watch one of these said leaders asking Trump ( the feds / We tax payers) for a bail out after the pot on the stove boils over . I’m just weird that way I guess . 🤷‍♂️
 
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Weezer said:
Both parties rely on this. Why do you think they keep offering up horrible candidates? Do you really think Biden is the best the Dems could offer up? And yes, before you get all "muh Trump", the same is true for him.
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Biden is no where near the best candidate the dems could have put up.
But he ain't Trump. (I used ain't to highlight the simple yet critical truth of the statement)
 
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luthervol said:
Biden is no where near the best candidate the dems could have put up.
But he ain't Trump. (I used ain't to highlight the simple yet critical truth of the statement)
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It's like the point continually flies over your head.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Are the rural areas being burned , looted , and destroyed ? Let’s apply that standard to all city and rural . Why are is one far out pacing the other in voting for one party because of the letter behind the name . Why does county and states historically swap leader positions but big urban cities historically stay the same ? I find it hard to believe that urban cities who haven’t elected an R as a leader in 30,40,50, or 100 years could find the audacity to blame someone else for their problems . I will add that it’s just as amazing for me to watch one of these said leaders asking Trump ( the feds / We tax payers) for a bail out after the pot on the stove boils over . I’m just weird that way I guess . 🤷‍♂️
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My county has been solidly red for decades.
 
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Mick said:
Apparently you did zero research and dismissed the best and I mean the most comprehensive database because it didn't paint the picture you liked. That about sums up your participation.
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I used everything from the database, even proved 46% does not equal 100%, you even agree it was 46% participation. 100% participate is required for the label " most comprehensive database" I even proved major cities are not reported or underreported thus answering your question. What are you struggling with here?
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I used everything from the database, even proved 46% does not equal 100%, you even agree it was 46% participation.

100% participate is required for the label " most comprehensive database"

I even proved major cities are not reported or underreported thus answering your question. What are you struggling with here?
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If there isn't a more comprehensive database the one used is the most comprehensive database. Hard concept for a nurse I'm sure.

You did no such thing anymore than you proved rural police departments are non participants.
 
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