White supremacist mows down mosque in NZ

And you think saying the government has tanks and planes is justification and a good argument for gun control? Or that someone owning a firearm infringes on your rights(😂)? Both are absolutely awful takes regarding gun control
If anything he’s arguing that citizens should have the ability to own far more than they currently do.
 
What's the response: (1) enforce the law, penalize those who break it; or (2) revoke the law because it didn't work?

Was the law not enforced? There was an arrest. Charges will be filed. Considering there's video I have little doubt there will be a conviction and punishment. The gun itself was not guilty, but the man wielding it was.
 
One day most likely people like you and Luther who want to take our guns, are gonna end up running to someone like us with guns for help.

Yes, they usually where little blue uniforms and travel in cars with bright blue flashing lights.
 
Yes, they usually where little blue uniforms and travel in cars with bright blue flashing lights.
This tickles me at again the hypocrisy. Your side complains about abuse of power bybthe police, yet feel like they're the only ones who should be armed. Is there any stance liberals have that aren't hypocritical?
 
This tickles me at again the hypocrisy. Your side complains about abuse of power bybthe police, yet feel like they're the only ones who should be armed. Is there any stance liberals have that aren't hypocritical?
There are so many conflicts in liberal ideology that I don't know how they keep them straight.
 
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Just saying they're not going to make a difference when you're going against the capabilities of the modern armed forces.

Ev, the U.S. has lost wars to guys living on a daily handful of rice wearing tire treads for shoes. The Soviet engagement in Afghanistan was already at a stalemate and they had decided to withdraw months before U.S. aid.

The framers understood warfare history quite well. It is not necessary for the populace to have equivalent armament; it is a numbers game. Including reserves, the military is about 2M members; probably at least 40% of the population have weapons and there are likely 300M> weapons in circulation. There is a perpetuating, large amount of military expertise within the general population, even if no military defected which would not be the case. The framers gauged that such destruction necessary would not only cause massive defection in the military and civilian police, but that even a large number of loyalists would join a revolt when their family and friends end up as red mush.

In a bloody conflict that'd make the Civil War look like an ice cream social, I see no path for such a government to win.
 
Remind me, are gun going to make a difference against tanks, drones, jet fighters, cluster bombs, etc?
lets ask Afghanistan.

and you are right, the 2nd Amendment was written at a time when the people were armed to a level where they could fight the worlds best military. We need to up our game.

I also like how you literally just grabbed a bunch of military words and threw them in a single sentence.
 

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