Who are our big money men?

#51
#51
GetYouSomeofThat said:
The everyday fan.

If just the people that showed up on Saturdays would donate $25 per month our NIL would be worth $60M more than ot is now.

If all the people who are Vol fans donated just $5 per month the NIL money would be $30M more than now.

Why ask rich guys to donate millions when the average fan refuses to donate $60 per year
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The average UT fan, regardless of how much they enjoy Vol sports, is more interested in paying their bills than giving their money to a college student.
 
#52
#52
A really good friend of mine who went to UT, and has been incredibly successful in business told me earlier this year, UT doesn’t have a money problem.
The problem as he sees it is the the AD doesn’t do enough to engage the younger generation of wealth.
 
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#55
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therealitytheory said:
Open letter to our AD DW:
Great job Danny, but let me clue you in on a sure-fire moneymaker that has been proven successful in the past. In short:
Our PotS band forms the giant T
wealthy donor(s) run thru T...for a fee
to Thunder-ous applause

yer welcome, trt
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Some things should not be for sale.
 
#57
#57
DeerPark12 said:
This isn’t the right question to ask.

Something that I don’t think most people understand at the level that they should when it comes to contributions and spending is the size of Tennessee’s alumni base compared to other schools in this conversation. One of the reasons that Tennessee was always a fit in the old version of the Southeastern Conference was we had a similar enrollment to every school not named Vanderbilt. Most of the SEC schools, including Tennessee, were in the 25,000 to 35,000 range over the last 20 years. Florida has always been a bit of an outlier, because its enrollment is closer to 45,000.

So when you’re talking about competing against the “big boys“ of college sports, you have to consider that Ohio State’s annual enrollment is 60,000. They have three times as many students, meaning they turn out three times as many alumni on a yearly basis. Penn State has 80,000 students this year. Michigan is 52,000, Texas is over 50,000, Texas A&M has 71,000 students this year. The schools are playing different games over the long-term than we are because they have more people to play the game.

Tennessee fund probably has more updated numbers, but five years ago UT had five billionaire alumni, two of them in the Haslam family. Ohio State had 12 billionaire alums. No idea how many of them donate, but the sheer numbers of it aren’t good for us when you’re making that comparison.
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DP, you know that there's no place for logic on this board :):):)
 
#59
#59
DeerPark12 said:
This isn’t the right question to ask.

Something that I don’t think most people understand at the level that they should when it comes to contributions and spending is the size of Tennessee’s alumni base compared to other schools in this conversation. One of the reasons that Tennessee was always a fit in the old version of the Southeastern Conference was we had a similar enrollment to every school not named Vanderbilt. Most of the SEC schools, including Tennessee, were in the 25,000 to 35,000 range over the last 20 years. Florida has always been a bit of an outlier, because its enrollment is closer to 45,000.

So when you’re talking about competing against the “big boys“ of college sports, you have to consider that Ohio State’s annual enrollment is 60,000. They have three times as many students, meaning they turn out three times as many alumni on a yearly basis. Penn State has 80,000 students this year. Michigan is 52,000, Texas is over 50,000, Texas A&M has 71,000 students this year. The schools are playing different games over the long-term than we are because they have more people to play the game.

Tennessee fund probably has more updated numbers, but five years ago UT had five billionaire alumni, two of them in the Haslam family. Ohio State had 12 billionaire alums. No idea how many of them donate, but the sheer numbers of it aren’t good for us when you’re making that comparison.
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Which translates to we don’t have the big money men like the elite schools. Got it.
 
#60
#60
All of us our as the pastor in the southern Baptist church I grew up in used to say “give til it hurts” pass the offering plate and don’t complain if you ain’t giving!
 
#62
#62
Voltopia said:
And even then, if anyone on our roster can be bought at any time, what does pursuing a grassroots approach even do for a school? You could spend years developing guys through a grassroots approach, but at the first sign of big money, a number of them are going to bail.
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If this was true then teams like UGA and Bama would be losing their star players too. They don’t b/c those players know they will likely get highly drafted after 3-4 years. That just doesn’t happen to many UT players. Heup and his coaches aren’t developing players to point of being high draft picks and that is a glaring issue after 4 years.
 
#63
#63
08Vol said:
If this was true then teams like UGA and Bama would be losing their star players too. They don’t b/c those players know they will likely get highly drafted after 3-4 years. That just doesn’t happen to many UT players. Heup and his coaches aren’t developing players to point of being high draft picks and that is a glaring issue after 4 years.
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The Tennessee staff's ability to get players into the NFL has nothing to do with what I was saying. My comment was entirely about the big money schools always having more access to funds to push other programs around and buy their best players off them. They will most likely always have more funding. So sooner or later, you have a star player, they're going to reach out and see if that player can be bought off you. Every major star on every team will have to be accounted for, and schools like Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, etc., are going to have money to press hard.

And in case you haven't noticed, Alabama and Georgia have been losing players. Maybe not their stars, not today while they're big time winning programs, but they have been losing players. They just have so many more stocked up that it doesn't impact them -- yet.
 
#64
#64
BigOrangeTrain said:
Which translates to we don’t have the big money men like the elite schools. Got it.
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Or nearly as many small and medium money people as other schools. It adds up.

Big Ten schools with massive alumni bases are always going to be able to outspend the southern schools. It's simple math. The souther schools are selling development and championships, which the Big Ten schools have had fewer of.
 
#66
#66
DeerPark12 said:
No, NFL owners are banned from signing college players to NIL deals to represent the teams. What owners do with their money outside of their football business is their business. They can make contributions to an NIL collective and they can give college athletes NIL money to promote their other businesses. They just can’t hire them to promote their NFL teams.
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Thx for the clarification!
 
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