Who is responsible for hiring Dave Hart?

[tnmarktx]

Outside of Spurrier and Saban, you must've thought all the coaching hires were terrible in the SEC.

Kevin Sumlin was and excellent hire. LOL, if you are comparing Strong and Fisher, to Spurrier and Saban.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Great, informative thread guys.

Well done.

We will have to wait 3 or 4 more years to fire Hart.

 

[tnmarktx]

Great, informative thread guys.

Well done.

We will have to wait 3 or 4 more years to fire Hart.

Sad, but true.

 

[SaintLouisVol]

The Chancellor has oversight of the hiring of the AD. I am sure it is done with the counsel of others in the top leadership at the university.

You do realize that those other buildings that are seen randomly placed around the stadium do have a use, right? They are classrooms!!! They are used to hold classes for teaching college students.

The chancellor has duties well outside of the general oversight of athetics. To suggest he be fired because of the football program is absurd.

 

[oregonvol]

Maybe you shouldn't be posting. Why shouldn't a team looking for a coach, try to get the best coach available? From what I hear, he may go to Arky. So enlighten me? Why would Chris Petersen never leave Boise St.? Are you talking about his son's heath issues? There are good doctors everywhere, not just in Idaho.

Yeah, this. To my knowledge, Chris Petersen has never turned down a 5-6 million dollar salary. Let's give him the chance to do that, before we go down to a lower tier of coaches.

 

[tnmarktx]

The Chancellor has oversight of the hiring of the AD. I am sure it is done with the counsel of others in the top leadership at the university.

You do realize that those other buildings that are seen randomly placed around the stadium do have a use, right? They are classrooms!!! They are used to hold classes for teaching college students.

The chancellor has duties well outside of the general oversight of athetics. To suggest he be fired because of the football program is absurd.

You do realize that athletics bring in a ton of money that go to improving academics, right? Allowing the football team to suck will cost the university tons of money. I'm sure he gets paid well to do this job. Time to start earning his money

 

[SaintLouisVol]

You do realize that athletics bring in a ton of money that go to improving academics, right? Allowing the football team to suck will cost the university tons of money. I'm sure he gets paid well to do this job. Time to start earning his money

Yes, I do understand that a healthy athletic department can do wonders to aid the financial health of any university. But, if the primary qualification of a university chancellor becomes his or her ability to field a good football team, it sure sounds like a HUGE compromise of the academic integrity of the university.

 

[tvols75]

Kevin Sumlin was and excellent hire. LOL, if you are comparing Strong and Fisher, to Spurrier and Saban.

If you are dumb enough to read what I said and thought I was comparing them to Saban and Spurrier, then that speaks volumes of your IQ.

Kevin Sumlin was an excellent hire based on your standard? He had a losing season at Houston; he got smoked by Fedora when his team was ranked #6 and playing for a BCS bowl; and he had bad losses at Houston as well. And you are bashing the other guys, yet calling Sumlin an excellent hire?

Please tell me what impresses you about Sumlin that doesn't impress you about Fisher and Strong, two guys who have won championships in the SEC as coordinators and have had great success as head coaches.

 

[TSwafford]

I want to see UT win championships. With those two, no chance ever.

Hart should hire you since you obviously know what youre talking about

 

[oregonvol]

If you are dumb enough to read what I said and thought I was comparing them to Saban and Spurrier, then that speaks volumes of your IQ.

Kevin Sumlin was an excellent hire based on your standard? He had a losing season at Houston; he got smoked by Fedora when his team was ranked #6 and playing for a BCS bowl; and he had bad losses at Houston as well. And you are bashing the other guys, yet calling Sumlin an excellent hire?

Please tell me what impresses you about Sumlin that doesn't impress you about Fisher and Strong, two guys who have won championships in the SEC as coordinators and have had great success as head coaches.

Sumlin's losing season had alot to do with losing his star QB to injury. He bookended it with 10 win seasons though, so it's somewhat forgiveable.

It's hardly a bad loss to lose to a team with similar talent (USM) when you have Houston ranked #6. I think the thing you're missing there is that HE HAD HOUSTON RANKED #6 IN THE NATION. That's pretty amazing, given the talent level and the kind of program. Fisher and Strong haven't accomplished anything as impressive as that as HCs, in my opinion.

 

[Dekram]

Maybe you shouldn't be posting. Why shouldn't a team looking for a coach, try to get the best coach available? From what I hear, he may go to Arky. So enlighten me? Why would Chris Petersen never leave Boise St.? Are you talking about his son's heath issues? There are good doctors everywhere, not just in Idaho.

Yes and pulling him out of everything he knows could be adverse to his sons health. It has nothing todo with docotors, although im sure he likes the ones hes has currently.

heres an article

When Chris Petersen was an assistant at Oregon, his youngest son fell from the stands while at practice.
When he threw up Chris and his wife Barbara took him to the doctor, who ordered an MRI, and that was when they discovered he had a brain tumor and cancer.
Petersen’s son, now 12, can never play football but loves talking the game and gets to be a big part of the Boise State program.
Money will not be the only reason Petersen and his family will consider if they decide to take another job.
They are a close family and very spiritual. They made a $150,000 donation to Boise State in 2009. I’m not sure it is a slam dunk he would leave even for Arkansas — Arkansas or California.



I think their love of Boise State might trump a few dollars in their pocket.

 

[oregonvol]

Yes and pulling him out of everything he knows could be adverse to his sons health. It has nothing todo with docotors, although im sure he likes the ones hes has currently.

heres an article

When Chris Petersen was an assistant at Oregon, his youngest son fell from the stands while at practice.
When he threw up Chris and his wife Barbara took him to the doctor, who ordered an MRI, and that was when they discovered he had a brain tumor and cancer.
Petersen’s son, now 12, can never play football but loves talking the game and gets to be a big part of the Boise State program.
Money will not be the only reason Petersen and his family will consider if they decide to take another job.
They are a close family and very spiritual. They made a $150,000 donation to Boise State in 2009. I’m not sure it is a slam dunk he would leave even for Arkansas — Arkansas or California.



I think their love of Boise State might trump a few dollars in their pocket.

And the key word here is "think". We don't know. And this hire is so important and he's so far above the other candidates we're hearing about, we need to know for sure. No one has ever made him an offer the size we're capable of making. If we make a push and he turns us down, fine. But if we're not even trying to land him, then it tells me that winning isn't the most important thing to our AD. And if that's the case, then they need to stop asking me for money.

 

[Dekram]

And the key word here is "think". We don't know. And this hire is so important and he's so far above the other candidates we're hearing about, we need to know for sure. No one has ever made him an offer the size we're capable of making. If we make a push and he turns us down, fine. But if we're not even trying to land him, then it tells me that winning isn't the most important thing to our AD. And if that's the case, then they need to stop asking me for money.

Of course they have to at least meet with or offer the best coaches they can get to. Tennessee is going to be a high risk high reward type of situation. I myself would take a bird in the hand and the UT coaching postion is too much of a crap shoot at this point.

I beleive your going to have to settle on a up and comer. UT isnt the job it used to be considered.

 

[oregonvol]

Of course they have to at least meet with or offer the best coaches they can get to. Tennessee is going to be a high risk high reward type of situation. I myself would take a bird in the hand and the UT coaching postion is too much of a crap shoot at this point.

I beleive your going to have to settle on a up and comer. UT isnt the job it used to be considered.

But you don't know any of this. According to most sources, Gruden was interested and Hart didn't want him. I want to know that we went after the best. I don't want to just assume someone wasn't interested, just because we hired someone else less qualified.

How desirable was Alabama when they hired Saban? They had plenty of issues. But they went after the best and were willing to offer the amount of money it takes to get the best. All I ask is that our AD do the same. If we get turned down, that's fine. But to not even make a big offer to Petersen or Patterson, tells me that our AD doesn't have the "win at all costs" mentality we need. And it's hard for me to support a guy who doesn't take winning and competing for championships seriously, a guy who just wants to hire a "good enough" coach and doesn't want to try for greatness.

 

[misplaced_vol_fan]

But you don't know any of this. According to most sources, Gruden was interested and Hart didn't want him. I want to know that we went after the best. I don't want to just assume someone wasn't interested, just because we hired someone else less qualified.

How desirable was Alabama when they hired Saban? They had plenty of issues. But they went after the best and were willing to offer the amount of money it takes to get the best. All I ask is that our AD do the same. If we get turned down, that's fine. But to not even make a big offer to Petersen or Patterson, tells me that our AD doesn't have the "win at all costs" mentality we need. And it's hard for me to support a guy who doesn't take winning and competing for championships seriously, a guy who just wants to hire a "good enough" coach and doesn't want to try for greatness.

According to most "sources" Gruden was a done deal. You can't go off of stories about sources. How do you know that they haven't reached out to Petersen? You don't. Give the man the chance to make a hire before wanting him fired and run off.

 

[Dekram]

But you don't know any of this. According to most sources, Gruden was interested and Hart didn't want him. I want to know that we went after the best. I don't want to just assume someone wasn't interested, just because we hired someone else less qualified.

How desirable was Alabama when they hired Saban? They had plenty of issues. But they went after the best and were willing to offer the amount of money it takes to get the best. All I ask is that our AD do the same. If we get turned down, that's fine. But to not even make a big offer to Petersen or Patterson, tells me that our AD doesn't have the "win at all costs" mentality we need. And it's hard for me to support a guy who doesn't take winning and competing for championships seriously, a guy who just wants to hire a "good enough" coach and doesn't want to try for greatness.

Im sure Hart just didnt want to give Gruden the power he wanted and have to take a back seat, which could be good or bad we will never know. I agree if he doesnt not go after Patterson and Petersen that is a mistake.

I just dont see them leaving good situations for a place that is so high pressure you maybe out oafter 30 months if you dont win. OUr love of UT is not everyone elses and being objective i dont see people that are in great situations taking the job. You can say well " a dump truck full of money could change that" but the question is do you want someone that is their motivation?

EDIT : Well it would be my motivation.

 

[Emvols3]

Fisher isn't going to win any kind of championship here. The guy loses at least one game every year to a less talented team. You can't do that in the SEC.

So Bama losing to Tx A&M really hurt them bad huh???? Looks like they are playing for a NC. Also Fisher just won the ACC title which FSU hadn't won in 5 years.....

 

[tvols75]

Sumlin's losing season had alot to do with losing his star QB to injury. He bookended it with 10 win seasons though, so it's somewhat forgiveable.

It's hardly a bad loss to lose to a team with similar talent (USM) when you have Houston ranked #6. I think the thing you're missing there is that HE HAD HOUSTON RANKED #6 IN THE NATION. That's pretty amazing, given the talent level and the kind of program. Fisher and Strong haven't accomplished anything as impressive as that as HCs, in my opinion.

This fan base is a no excuses crowd. He had a losing record, if they are going to ignore the reasons behind some of these other resumes but ignore that one, then they are just fussing for the hell of it.

 

[oregonvol]

This fan base is a no excuses crowd. He had a losing record, if they are going to ignore the reasons behind some of these other resumes but ignore that one, then they are just fussing for the hell of it.

What are you talking about? All I hear from this fan base are excuses. It's far more impressive to take Houston to a #6 ranking and have a losing season the year before, than it is to win 9 games at Louisville or 10 at FSU.

 

[iluvsmesumdooley]

The fact that you just put Art Briles, Butch Jones, Sonny Dykes, & Willie Taggart ahead of Fisher & Strong tells us all enough about you. Please, stop exercising your first amendment.

I'll take Strong over all of those. Bridles is a wonderful coach, but Strong can recruit here better. Those other three - really?Honestly?