Who should be allowed to vote?

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This thread is going to go bad fast but I really don't care. I think it is insane that people who do not own land, own their own business, or are military should be allowed to vote. I would also state that if you are over the age of 30 and have had a job for the last 12 consecutive months (with no more than a total of 30 non employed days) you should be allowed to vote. If you were laid off due to it not being your fault (company folded etc) you should still be allowed to vote during the year you were laid off. I believe all of the above should have voting power with a few others maybe added to the list. I do not think you should be allowed to vote just because you are over 18. I believe that it would also take away from the Right vs Left issue in our country because each party would be going at the same grouping of people ... hard working americans.
 
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I am saying this in the most respectful way I possibly can. Your idea and thread is very ignorant and goes against everything that this country has stood for since its inception.
 
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i shouldn't be able to vote because i chose not to buy a massively overpriced house? interesting logic.
 
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Your working. Aren't you? That means you can vote if your over 30.

Also the universal sufferage act did not pass until 1920. The founding fathers did not set up the everyone can vote idea.
 
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I think it is insane that people who do not own land, own their own business, or are military should be allowed to vote.

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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Your working. Aren't you? That means you can vote if your over 30.

Also the universal sufferage act did not pass until 1920. The founding fathers did not set up the everyone can vote idea.
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My comment had to do with "All men are created equal".
 
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BearCat204 said:
I am saying this in the most respectful way I possibly can. Your idea and thread is very ignorant and goes against everything that this country has stood for since its inception.
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in layman's terms - who gives a sh*t what you think?
 
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BearCat204 said:
I am saying this in the most respectful way I possibly can. Your idea and thread is very ignorant and goes against everything that this country has stood for since its inception.
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dude, you don't what the heck, you're talking about. with freedom comes responsibility and there are hundreds of thousands of people have no clue about the freedoms that they enjoy. when you have 'get out the vote' people bribing voters with coffee and food to vote a certain way, do you really want those people to vote?

ignorant dude.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Your working. Aren't you? That means you can vote if your over 30.

Also the universal sufferage act did not pass until 1920. The founding fathers did not set up the everyone can vote idea.
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people back then were more responsible than they are today. people back then didn't have the government tit to suck on their whole life.
 
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what land do you own and not rent from the local gov't? If you own it then why can it be seized by the gov't for almost no reason but their own?
 
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joevol320 said:
dude, you don't what the heck, you're talking about. with freedom comes responsibility and there are hundreds of thousands of people have no clue about the freedoms that they enjoy. when you have 'get out the vote' people bribing voters with coffee and food to vote a certain way, do you really want those people to vote?

ignorant dude.
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I bet you just hate the 24th amendment dont you.
 
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The landowner aspect is just silly. The business owner aspect is silly. They have no place today. Having a job is at least a point from which to begin the discussion. I think it is a very slippery slope and bad idea, but it at least doesn't make me feel dumb for engaging in discussion.
 
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only one I could possibly see is not being on gov't assistance to vote. If you are then you're just voting yourself a raise
 
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utvolpj said:
only one I could possibly see is not being on gov't assistance to vote. If you are then you're just voting yourself a raise
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I believe three items should be a prerequisite for being allowed to vote:

  1. You are not currently incarcerated for a felony (however, if you have rehabilitated yourself, have been released and are a productive member of society, then you should have the right to vote)
  2. You are not currently on government assistance and have not been for a least 12 consecutive months
  3. You can answer the question "Who are your current representatives"
 
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Honestly how about simplify that one big quote from the OP that does pretty much contradict itself all over: Require voters to have paid taxes?

Not really touching this one as I do believe you probably should have something invested in a system you decide how it pays out, but on the same sense I also believe everyone should have a voice.

I guess I'm stirring the pot a bit.
 
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utvolpj said:
only one I could possibly see is not being on gov't assistance to vote. If you are then you're just voting yourself a raise
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I'd argue that government workers and gov contractors would fall into this category since they could give themselves raises as well.
 
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i wish there were some kind of intelligence test. there are a lot of idiot voters
 
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lumberjack4 said:
I'd argue that government workers and gov contractors would fall into this category since they could give themselves raises as well.
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Wouldnt this include the military? Just to make sure I understand you, you think that government workers, governement contractors, and soldiers,sailors, airmen, and marines shouldnt have the right to vote?
 
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