Who should be allowed to vote?

#27
#27
BearCat204 said:
Wouldnt this include the military? Just to make sure I understand you, you think that government workers, governement contractors, and soldiers,sailors, airmen, and marines shouldnt have the right to vote?
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I'm saying all those people fall into that category.

While there are some aspects I like about not allowing anyone who get government assistance in any form (whether it be student loans, grants, subsidies, paychecks, ect) the ability to vote. I'm not really sold on the idea in practice. I have a co-worker that likes this idea, but he hasn't been able to convince me on it. For one reason, no one would be left to vote. Until we cut the handouts out of everyone's lives which wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
#28
#28
golfballs03 said:
i wish there were some kind of intelligence test. there are a lot of idiot voters
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Would never happen. Invariably certain demographic sects of this country would have a statistically higher rate of failure on the test, and it would be likened to the Jim Crow Laws.
 
#29
#29
how about a test of current events? people should actually know what year it is
 
#30
#30
lumberjack4 said:
Would never happen. Invariably certain demographic sects of this country would have a statistically higher rate of failure on the test, and it would be likened to the Jim Crow Laws.
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oh, i realize it's 100% inrealistic. but in theory i wish it existed.
 
#31
#31
I think if you are an American citizen, 18 years old or older and not currently incarcerated, not only should you be allowed to vote, it should be MANDATORY. If you don't vote, you have zero right to ***** about whoever is in office.
 
#32
#32
superdave1984 said:
I think if you are an American citizen, 18 years old or older and not currently incarcerated, not only should you be allowed to vote, it should be MANDATORY. If you don't vote, you have zero right to ***** about whoever is in office.
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don't like the mandatory part
 
#34
#34
Veterans only. A la Starship Troopers.

I don't actually believe that, but there are those that do.

Veterans only as politicians, too.

Everyone is equally disenfranchised until they are discharged; Heinlein had some crazy theories.
 
#36
#36
The Constitution never explicitly ensures the right to vote, as it does the right to speech, for example. It does require that Representatives be chosen and Senators be elected by "the People," and who comprises "the People" has been expanded by the aforementioned amendments several times. Aside from these requirements, though, the qualifications for voters are left to the states. And as long as the qualifications do not conflict with anything in the Constitution, that right can be withheld. For example, in Texas, persons declared mentally incompetent and felons currently in prison or on probation are denied the right to vote. It is interesting to note that though the 26th Amendment requires that 18-year-olds must be able to vote, states can allow persons younger than 18 to vote, if they chose to.


Also the founding fathers did not view slaves as people. They were talking about rich white land owners when they spoke of people. Now before everyone goes on a IHATE is racist prick lynching sessions I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS HUMANE. My grandfather was black, my mothers side is native american and my wife is asian. I do not feel color or gender should ever come into a discussion of human rights.

I do feel though that it is insane that the 18-25 year old demographic (which a large portion of is brainwashed by their profs or just too young to know which way is truly up) can swing a vote one way or another. I also think it is insane that people who have never had to balance a check book in any scheme have equal ssay as those of the country who have and do.
 
#40
#40
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
I do feel though that it is insane that the 18-25* year old demographic (which a large portion of is brainwashed by their profs or just too young to know which way is truly up) can swing a vote one way or another. I also think it is insane that people who have never had to balance a check book in any scheme have equal say as those of the country who have and do.*
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* Unless they are in the military, in which case, then that opinion is very different.
 
#42
#42
fl0at said:
* Unless they are in the military, in which case, then that opinion is very different.
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Welfare needs to go away and the military needs to get a major raise. My opinion.

And yes, it is very different.
 
#44
#44
As long as Obama is in the White House and Eric Holder is the Attorney General, we can't expect anything to be done on the national stage.

All states need to make sure voters are removed from the polls when they die. That shouldn't be that hard of a task.

All states need to make sure there are no convicted felons on the rolls. That shouldn't be such a hard task either.

All states need to insure that absentee ballots are sent to members of our armed services who are on active duty in a timely manner. If anyone deserves to vote, they surely do.

Proof of citizenship should be provided when registering to vote.

Proof of identity should be provided before anyone is allowed to vote and those who register and vote in multiple precincts should be prosecuted.

Those who participate in voter registering drives and who violate laws concerning voter registration should be convicted of a felony and jailed.

Those are a few of the things that need to be done immediately, otherwise the general public is going to lose what little confidence they have in the current political process and that can't be construed as a good thing.

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#45
#45
Somewhere in the country Harry Reed is not like the "illegals can't vote" part and is thanking everyone of them who did.
 
#46
#46
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Not illegals.

Have no problem with hard working black people.

Signed,

An actual Tea party member.
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I assume by your response that you would therefore exclude from voting all people, of whatever ethnicity, who do not work hard?

Interesting news for those who have inherited wealth.
 
#47
#47
lawgator1 said:
I assume by your response that you would therefore exclude from voting all people, of whatever ethnicity, who do not work hard?

Interesting news for those who have inherited wealth.
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Land owner, business owner, military, or working and over age 30. Must be one of the above.

if you're black and came into money and land due to your father's death you vote. You own land. If you just got 10 million bucks and you own no land and don't work and your a 35 year old male you dont vote.

IQ is not a color thing. Quit trying to make TP members look racist. We helped elect actual minorities this elction while the DEms asked the guy in FL to step down who was black. I could care less who you are if your working. Kinda hard to own land without a job.
 
#48
#48
My white grandfather was a total piece of crap who I saw three times in my life. My black grandfather, on the other hand, was awesome. How does this make you feel when i say I am a TP memeber and he probably would have been too? Does it destroy your little fantasy.
 
#49
#49
lawgator1 said:
I assume by your response that you would therefore exclude from voting all people, of whatever ethnicity, who do not work hard?

Interesting news for those who have inherited wealth.
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yeah a real large % of this country is some stupid bum living off of inheritance.
 
#50
#50
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Welfare needs to go away and the military needs to get a major raise. My opinion.

And yes, it is very different.
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What about those that enlist at 18 for a 4 year hitch, get out at 22 and then enter school and become a 23 yr old "brainwashed by their professors?"

We still gonna let 'em vote? Or do they lose their vote until they enter their 30s, and/or become business/land owners?

Cause that happens with regularity. The brainwashing by professors is arguable, but the rest is often true.
 
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