Who stands accountable?

[GreyWolf1129]

Okay, we've talked all around it...so let's talk about it.

Who will stand accountable at the end of the season for the failure(s) of 2005?

Sanders? Already did. Washington? Maybe. Stephens? Maybe. Stop by the Sentinel, Tennessean, Fox, ESPN, or any of a dozen other websites, and rumors run rampant as to who (if any) will answer for then embarrassment that had become the 2005 Vols season.

Turnovers...dropped passes...missed blocks...untimely penalties...bad karma...tough opponent...tough schedule...wind blowing the wrong way...we've heard them all, haven't we?

Crap. All of it. Big time players make big time plays in big time games. Big time teams win big time games. When the going gets tough...the Vols fold. Except for 30 minutes against an emotionally exhausted LSU team, the Vols are 2-6...and rightfully so. And when it's time to hold someone accountable for a team with this talent falling woefully short of it's potential...you need look no farther than the top.

I am, and have been, a rabid Volunteer fan since day one. Grew up in the shadow of Neyland Stadium...and caught more touchdown passes than I can count playing for UT in my back yard. You name the player, or the play...I've lived it out; either in my back yard, or in the dreams that followed every Vol win...or loss. I am a UT football fan. I love my Vols.

Except for here lately. Lately being defined as the last 7 or so years. What have we done in the last 7 years? The last 80 or so games. Anything noteworthy? Any National Championsips? No. Any SEC Championships? No. Any big bowl wins? Well...yeah...we beat Texas A&M last year.

I'm sick of hearing about Fulmer's winning percentage, and tired of ignoring his losing percentage against credible opponents. I have nothing against Coach Fulmer...except that he has turned my beloved Vols into the laughing stock of the SEC East...the SEC...and every sports writer in the country.

Hoss, when Steve Spurrier beats you, on your home field, with what amounts to the second best high school team in South Carolina...you have a problem.

We, collectively, are in a state of denial as to "what ails the Vols". The UT Athletic Department...known for bad hiring decisions (look no further than the men's basketball program)...refuses to acknowledge it's most pressing problem, probably because of the potential impact on future revenue. A full stadium, win or lose, equals a good program...and millions of dollars for same.

Show up with 40,000 fans, and watch Mike Hamilton get interested in UT football. Sad, ain't it?

Remember the disappointment of 1999? What changed? 2001? 2003? Add 2005 to the list. And ask yourself this question: What is the one, single constant factor that has plagued UT football in what was supposed to be "championship" years?

Who stands accountable?

 

[OWB]

Good post, welcome to the board. I can assure you that it's not my fault.

 

[USAF_Vol]

BS. I heard you were trying to sabatoge this season.

 

[MemphisVol]

You are a cruel man USAF-V: Thanks to your supposed joke, people might not realize that OWB (through a number of absurd machinations originally designed only to win LIO despite the fact that she actually has less of an irrational lust for Wagner than her habits of dress might seem) has pretty much zero chance of being named the Midwest Fried Chicken King.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Nov 6, 2005 12:05 AM
BS.  I heard you were trying to sabatoge this season.

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FYI, the correct spelling is "sabotage". Warner-Robins must have a book store. Stop in and buy a dictionary.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Hmmm. . . . yeah. Ummm. . . .I'll have what he's having.

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:35 PM
Warner-Robins must have a book store.

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Don't be so sure.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:35 PM
FYI, the correct spelling is "sabotage".  Warner-Robins must have a book store.  Stop in and buy a dictionary.

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Who can spell at a time like this?

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:35 PM
FYI, the correct spelling is "sabotage".  Warner-Robins must have a book store.  Stop in and buy a dictionary.

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I hate to tell you this GreyWolf, but if you came to this board looking for good spelling and grammar, you came to the wrong place. Unless we are talking about MemphisVol. Then you have good spelling but when you finish reading the post, you feel used and dirty. That's not a good trade off. :crazy:

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Nov 6, 2005 12:37 AM
Who can spell at a time like this?

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Good point, and shame on me for picking at spelling on so serious a topic. That's what I get for focusing on the "poster", and not the post. Warner-Robins...I apologize.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 6, 2005 12:41 AM
I hate to tell you this GreyWolf, but if you came to this board looking for good spelling and grammar, you came to the wrong place.  Unless we are talking about MemphisVol.  Then you have good spelling but when you finish reading the post,  you feel used and dirty.  That's not a good trade off.  :crazy:

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Yeah..."used and dirty". I guess that kinda sums it up for Vol fans this year, huh?

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:42 PM
Warner-Robins...I apologize.

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I live 20 minutes from Warner Robins. Believe me, there's no reason to apologize.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:43 PM
Yeah..."used and dirty".  I guess that kinda sums it up for Vol fans this year, huh?

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Unfortunately yes, yes it does. :disappointed:

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 6, 2005 12:45 AM
Unfortunately yes, yes it does.  :disappointed:

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Yeah...thanks for the feedback. Been watching this site for a few months, and decided to join. First few hours interesting. Controversy always invites response. Bedtime. See y'all tomorrow, and beyond. Still love my Vols; just don't care for what they've become. Believe the Captain is accountable for what happens on his ship. Myabe my opinion stands alone; maybe not.

G'night all.

 

[Jasongivm6]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:35 PM
FYI, the correct spelling is "sabotage".  Warner-Robins must have a book store.  Stop in and buy a dictionary.

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That's funny!! I hope you don't really believe that bookstore is two words.

 

[VolsWinRLose]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 5, 2005 10:41 PM
Then you have good spelling but when you finish reading the post,  you feel used and dirty. 

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You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[MemphisVol]

Originally posted by VolsWinRLose@Nov 6, 2005 2:26 AM
You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Here, here.

If I didn't know better, I'd think none of you folks have been voting lately.

 

[IBleedOrange24/7]

Go figure, if your avatar is Yoder.

 

[USAF_Vol]

Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 5, 2005 11:35 PM
FYI, the correct spelling is "sabotage".  Warner-Robins must have a book store.  Stop in and buy a dictionary.

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Good lord, a goody two shoes. Sorry I didn't get the right dictionary. Obviously I need to find the one with the hyphen between Warner and Robins.

I did read the whole topic, so I accept your apology for attacking my post. So I won't start a pissing contest.

I guess you were a little PO'd last night as any Vol fan should be. But remember. Nit picking small things like that will drive you crazy. LIO has that job and I am sorry she didn't catch it in time.

We're all Vols on here. But feel free to call out any trolls tht lurk here.

 

[USAF_Vol]

Originally posted by MemphisVol@Nov 5, 2005 11:34 PM
You are a cruel man USAF-V:  Thanks to your supposed joke, people might not realize that OWB  (through a number of absurd machinations originally designed only to win LIO despite the fact that she actually has less of an irrational lust for Wagner than her habits of dress might seem) has pretty much zero chance of being named the Midwest Fried Chicken King.

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lol: lol: lol: lol:

 

[checkerboard_charly]

i say its 50-50. coaches and players. at least the offensive and special teams parts.

but our d gave up 4 huge plays last nite, and if u take those plays away, we win this game by at least two touchdowns.

so who knows. blame everyone, from fulmer all the way down to the ball boy.

EVERYONE IS TO BLAME. NOT JUST ONE OR TWO PPL.

 

[smokedog#3]

phil fulmer he hires the coaches, he is the head man it is his fault. i read the sunday knox newspaper and they agree from the writers to the fans who wrote in almost all wanted fulmers head. he gets paid 2 million dollars to put a winning team out on the field, that is his job. if you didn't do your job at work or underachieved what would happen to you. :banghead:

 

[surrealvol]

I personally think those of us on this board, along with the rest of our beloved Volunteer Nation have to share some of the blame.

We have sat around and begun to accept a bit of mediocrity from our program in terms of losing fairly consistently to Florida, and/or Georgia, and/or LSU, and or Auburn, and/or (God forbid now), South Carolina.

The overall record has been okay, but if you look back over the last few years, you'll see that we just haven't been getting it done against the aforementioned as a group.

Granted, we play in the toughest conference in the country, but so do the aforementioned teams who have played in the SECCG much more than us.

We need to ask that our administration, coaches, and players begin again to accept nothing less than the very best. And to me, that means that when we go on that field, we are going to kick our opponents butt consistently. We need to reinstate the fear that used to reign in the minds of our opponents, regardless of who they were.

Losing to a bummed up South Carolina team, even with Visor Vick is unreal.

If you really look at our schedule this year, we have yet to play anybody with superior talent to ours. We legitimately had a shot to beat anyone we played.

Now, we seem to be resigned to the fact that a coaching shuffle will get the job done. I think we need to reshuffle our attitudes and get after it by making sure (However we do that&#33 that our program gets back to the point where our opponents dread to get the butt-kicking that our Vols are going to deliver to their sorry hides.

So, let's share some of the blame ourselves and take the necessary steps to get back to the TOP where we BELONG!!!!!!!

 

[GIVEHIM-6]

Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 6, 2005 12:10 PM
i say its 50-50. coaches and players. at least the offensive and special teams parts.

but our d gave up 4 huge plays last nite, and if u take those plays away, we win this game by at least two touchdowns.

so who knows. blame everyone, from fulmer all the way down to the ball boy.

EVERYONE IS TO BLAME. NOT JUST ONE OR TWO PPL.

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Alot of our games have gone that way,we could have won them all but the what if's burned us.Like what if Anderson does not cough that ball up against Bama.I don't what truly needs to be fixed or who needs to be fired,I just say fix it cause it's getting old.

 

[dan4vols]

The problems that cause the resulting win /loss record the Vols now have are many and complex so no 1 step is gonna fix it. It needs to be treated as a business that is in the losing money. They need to identify problem areas systematically....define soloutions...act upon them 1 at a time until all problems identified have been corrected. That done...you should see improvement on the record from then out. :twocents: