Who Won the Debate Tonight?

[Smokeyone]

Do you think adultery is a sexual fetish as well?

Yes, some people just get off on forbidden fruit. Some folks are such whores.

 

[LouderVol]

How can he not?

I don't see how he can such extreme views of something he has actual knowledge of. Unless it's something personal.

 

[1972 Grad]

I don't see how he can such extreme views of something he has actual knowledge of. Unless it's something personal.

He has every right to feel the way he does, just like you or anyone else. That is what is great about this country. He can speak his mind. He doesn't have to believe what you or I believe.

 

[LouderVol]

I can accept that he generated a good amount of support on that basis. But, if you're going to make that argument, you're also guilty of the liberal trope that he lost a lot of votes/generated distrust for that same reason.

It's a double edged sword.

I disagree that it's why he won. Hillary Clinton. John McCain. Mitt Romney. That's why he won.

I doubt too many Ds were voting R because of his skin color. Far more people wanting to be part of history than are harboring a hate for a skin color. Jmo of course.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I doubt too many Ds were voting R because of his skin color. Far more people wanting to be part of history than are harboring a hate for a skin color. Jmo of course.

More along the lines of losing swing votes and generating hatred from fringe R's. I mean, we saw it here on VN and it was blatant. Gsvol was posting pictures of him with exaggerated facial features and flies hovering around him and a lot of people took that "he's not worth a response" route when dude was starting 2 threads a day. Meanwhile, the Hannity gang shows up when LG starts a thread about anything. Lol.

 

[NEO]

So who do you vote for now Zep?

You may have already stated that but I missed it.

Just curious if you back one of the remaining guys or just stay home at this point.

 

[NEO]

More along the lines of losing swing votes and generating hatred from fringe R's. I mean, we saw it here on VN and it was blatant. Gsvol was posting pictures of him with exaggerated facial features and flies hovering around him and a lot of people took that "he's not worth a response" route when dude was starting 2 threads a day. Meanwhile, the Hannity gang shows up when LG starts a thread about anything. Lol.

How do you respond to 50 cartoon pics a day and the amount of data he was dumping? I mean he posted ALOT.

 

[LouderVol]

More along the lines of losing swing votes and generating hatred from fringe R's. I mean, we saw it here on VN and it was blatant. Gsvol was posting pictures of him with exaggerated facial features and flies hovering around him and a lot of people took that "he's not worth a response" route when dude was starting 2 threads a day. Meanwhile, the Hannity gang shows up when LG starts a thread about anything. Lol.

I doubt GsVol was voting for a D anyway is my point.

I would have to go back and look but I am pretty sure third party voting took a hit as well to Obama's benefit. So while there were certainly cases of racists voting against Obama, he was helped far more than he was hurt.

And then by the second term there were reasons to dislike him politically to go along with any racism. There were also valid non racist reasons to not like him in both.