Why are you a Republican?

#26
#26
Seriously. You are freaking thick-headed. If you can't recognize that the majority of conservatives on here have been critical of Bush's freewheeling spending, you need to check yourself into special education.

And if he can't recognize that each vote is about two alternatives, he's not worth debating. We have the first overtly huge spending government driven spending solution maker since FDR. If that's too hard to fathom, stop wasting the time.
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#27
#27
I lean toward the GOP because:

1. I despise political correctness.
2. I believe anthropogenic "climate change" is a crock of crap.
3. I believe in personal responsibility and that what I earn is mine.
4. I believe in the moral and intellectual supremacy of the individual over the collective.
5. My only obligation to you is that while I am exercising my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness I do not infringe on your rights.
 
#28
#28
I'm Libertarian. Right now I vote Republican because the Democratic philosophies and main issues make the Republicans look like geniuses. And that's just pathetic.
 
#30
#30
I believe Clinton only had surpluses when Republicans controlled Congress, anyway. Who controlled Congress during this latest crisis?

Pelosi
and Barney Frank is knee deep in it


Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities...are not facing any kind of financial crisis.... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."[39] The two companies, which together own or back more than half the home mortgages in the US became "hobbled" by loan defaults.[40] Frank clarified in 2009 that Fannie and Freddie were not in crisis at the time and many financial institutions, like Lehman Brothers, also fell into crisis from 2003 to 2008.[41]
 
#31
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I'm Libertarian. Right now I vote Republican because the Democratic philosophies and main issues make the Republicans look like geniuses. And that's just pathetic.

The two main parties are about to prove sorry enough that the libertarians are going to become viable. I, for one, will help lead that charge. They'll get my first political donations ever.
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What is bothersome is people deluding themselves into the conclusion that an economic downturn is a partisan issue.

Is it not a partisan issue because the Republicans held most of the political power the last 10 years? But fixing the problem, since the democrats are in power, that's partisan? You can't have it both ways here. Or are we expected to believe the crisis couldn't have been avoided with better leadership.
 
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You still haven't told us why you're a Republican as the thread title asks.

This was the reasons I used to always vote Republican

1. wanted to reduce size of govt
2. against deficit spending
3. wanted to reform social security
4. against universal healthcare
5. against quotas for hiring


since they didnt accomplish any of those except the last one they needed to be voted out. I'm in favor voting out the current congress and president if they dont start doing a better job. But your not going to get change if you keep voting the same people back into office, that I'm sure of.
 
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Fiscal conservatism, small government, strong national defense = what I like about Republican ideals

Social conservatism = what I dislike about Republican ideals.

Call me Libertarian with a dose of practicality/reality.
 
#35
#35
Fiscally I'm conservative, but the extreme right social conservative ideals make me sick. I tend to lean heavily towards left wing social ideologies, but insert a dose of reality with it depending on the issue. IMO neither party is fiscally conservative, no matter what token references they make to it. I am all for a strong national defense, but not for haphazardly going head first into war. I can't stand patriotism used as a political tool. I think our civil liberties and freedom are extremely important.

I guess I would consider myself a blue dog democrat, with a dash of libertarianism. There are things I despise about both parties, but I think both have certain redeemable qualities about them.

I could see myself voting for a reality grounded libertarian candidate.
 
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Is it not a partisan issue because the Republicans held most of the political power the last 10 years? But fixing the problem, since the democrats are in power, that's partisan? You can't have it both ways here. Or are we expected to believe the crisis couldn't have been avoided with better leadership.
I've just always thought it was a little simplistic to place credit or blame for the economy based on who is in the majority at the time the numbers come out.
 
#38
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That main reason I lean to the GOP is because they understand the need for a beast of a military. Other than that I'm like vfb and bpv.
 
#39
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That main reason I lean to the GOP is because they understand the need for a beast of a military. Other than that I'm like vfb and bpv.

i do agree wholeheartedly on the big, bad a** military.

Can you imagine what would happen if China wanted to invade right now? Sheer manpower would make it devastating.
 
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I've just always thought it was a little simplistic to place credit or blame for the economy based on who is in the majority at the time the numbers come out.

Not too long ago you were blaming Carter for the recession in the 80's, I wonder why it wasn't simplistic then to blame the poor economy on Carter?
 
#41
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i do agree wholeheartedly on the big, bad a** military.

Can you imagine what would happen if China wanted to invade right now? Sheer manpower would make it devastating.

If we don't get our s**t together, it will happen in our lifetime. Just my opinion, but I think we'll see a war on US soil before I die. I'm 24 to that into a time frame. Also, my family has a history of heart problems so, I'm thinking I'll go around late 50's early 60's.
 
#42
#42
Not too long ago you were blaming Carter for the recession in the 80's, I wonder why it wasn't simplistic then to blame the poor economy on Carter?
. . . because everyone knows that one was Carter's fault - or at least his Fed Chief's. :p
 
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#43
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I believe Clinton only had surpluses when Republicans controlled Congress, anyway. Who controlled Congress during this latest crisis?

pretty sure the reps controlled congress the first six years and dems the last two goin on three years. fairly sure.
 
#44
#44
Bill Clinton had budget surpluses when he when he was in office. I guess you expect us to believe that most of the home foreclosures were on loans more then 8 years old? Hardly.....

Who got the ball rolling back in 1999?

"Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people ......."


Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - The New York Times

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#45
#45
Who got the ball rolling back in 1999?

"Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people ......."


Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - The New York Times

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I guess I will resign myself to saying this once a week.

The majority of the houses that are in foreclosure were bought in the last 5 years, not 10 years ago. People don't owe more money on their homes then they are worth if they bought them 10 years ago in 1999.

It's the declining property values and the ballooning ARM payments that caused them to go into foreclosure. People owed more then their home was worth or they couldn't afford the adjustable rate mortage anymore.
 
#46
#46
I'm fiscally and socially conservative. However, like JG, the extreme left and extreme right drive me crazy.
 
#47
#47
I guess I will resign myself to saying this once a week.

The majority of the houses that are in foreclosure were bought in the last 5 years, not 10 years ago. People don't owe more money on their homes then they are worth if they bought them 10 years ago in 1999.

It's the declining property values and the ballooning ARM payments that caused them to go into foreclosure. People owed more then their home was worth or they couldn't afford the adjustable rate mortage anymore.

the majority of the buyers you are talking about were about to buy those houses because of rule changes implemented by both jimmy carter and bill clinton. all i can say is shame on both reagan and bush and especially the gop led congress for not trying to reverse what the two had done.
 
#48
#48
I guess I will resign myself to saying this once a week.

The majority of the houses that are in foreclosure were bought in the last 5 years, not 10 years ago. People don't owe more money on their homes then they are worth if they bought them 10 years ago in 1999.

It's the declining property values and the ballooning ARM payments that caused them to go into foreclosure. People owed more then their home was worth or they couldn't afford the adjustable rate mortage anymore.

so without saying it, it's still your assertion that this is all the Bush administration's fault.

that simply isn't true and your only evidence to the contrary is a link to a story about some low level functionary who lost his job. The Bush administration tried several times to increase the regulation on Fannie/Freddie. Obviously they didn't try hard enough, but that's no reason to place blame solely on them.

as for your claim that a house bought 10 years ago isn't upside down, prove it.
 
#49
#49
Liberal hippies piss me off.

I believe that the money I make should go where I want it to go. I'm fiscally conservative. I could give a rat's ass about gay marriage, abortions etc.


i'm fiscally conservative and somewhere in between on the social side. i'm safely on the right for the most part but not enough to get beat with a sock full of quarters.
 
#50
#50
so without saying it, it's still your assertion that this is all the Bush administration's fault.

that simply isn't true and your only evidence to the contrary is a link to a story about some low level functionary who lost his job. The Bush administration tried several times to increase the regulation on Fannie/Freddie. Obviously they didn't try hard enough, but that's no reason to place blame solely on them.

as for your claim that a house bought 10 years ago isn't upside down, prove it.

I'm saying with better leadership from Congress and the Bush Administration this could have never snowballed into the crisis we have now. Even Bush's own economic advisors have said the same thing, look at the article I've quoted.
 
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