Why do we rarely see kids from Maryville/Alcoa come to/get offered by UT?

#26
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loosecannon said:
This has been addressed a billion times. Fulmer wanted him just as a WR and not a QB. Kentucky promised him he could play QB. He went to Kentucky, wasn’t great at QB and was used as a Wildcat before being moved to WR. It wasn’t because he wasn’t wanted. Fuller was right too.
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But one way or the other, we did not have a really good player.
 
#27
#27
TartanTurff said:
The same year Fulmer missed on Patrick Willis he also whiffed on Michael Oher and that was the beginning of the end of Fulmer, the inability to land the best in the state of Tennessee is never good.
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I cant stand Phil Fulmer. But theres nothing he could have done to keep that kid from going to Ole Miss. The parents were alums and the HC was some guy named Hugh Freeze.
 
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Why do you guys make stuff up for no reason at all? Tennessee has 49 kids that were on the 2022 roster, I won't be posting each one's school but a quick spot check showed Tennessee gets some from the local powerhouses and non-alike.
Tennessee is looking to separate the diamonds from the cubic zirconia. If they have a player that balls out, they would get offered. If LA Tech and Louisiana Tech's are coming hard for them, Tennessee probably is aiming higher.


NO NAME POS HT WT CLASS HOMETOWN
#66 Dayne Davis OL 6'-7" 325 JR Bluff City, TN
#19 Walker Merrill WR 6'-1" 195 SO Brentwood, TN
#39 Toby Wilson K 5'-10" 190 SR Brentwood, TN
#65 Camron Douglas DL 6'-3" 305 FR Brownsville, TN
#87 Joshua Helsdon DL 6'-4" 260 FR Cleveland, TN
#33 Jeremy Banks LB 6'-1" 224 SR Cordova, TN
#78 Ollie Lane OL 6'-4" 325 SR Corryton, TN
#69 Gus Hill OL 6'-4" 300 FR Fayetteville, TN
#47 Matt Gaca LB 6'-2" 223 JR Franklin, TN
#48 Derek Taylor DB 6'-4" 208 FR Greenbrier, TN
#55 Will Albright LB 6'-1" 220 SO Greeneville, TN
#96 Austin Lewis DL 6'-6" 270 SR Jonesborough, TN
#44 Charlie Browder TE 6'-7" 250 FR Kingsport, TN
#9 Tyler Baron DL 6'-5" 260 JR Knoxville, TN
#22 Jack Jancek WR 6'-5" 210 SO Knoxville, TN
#39 West Shuler LB 6'-1" 220 JR Knoxville, TN
#63 Cooper Mays OL 6'-3" 296 JR Knoxville, TN
#82 Shannon Blair Jr. DB 6'-1" 180 FR Knoxville, TN
#87 Jacob Warren TE 6'-6" 250 SR Knoxville, TN
#94 Josh Turbyville K 6'-1" 185 FR Knoxville, TN
#13 Wesley Walker DB 6'-1" 204 JR Lewisburg, TN
#41 JT Carver K 5'-11" 195 FR Martin, TN
#2 Jabari Small RB 5'-11" 213 JR Memphis, TN
#12 Tamarion McDonald DB 6'-2" 200 JR Memphis, TN
#20 Bryson Eason DL 6'-3" 300 SO Memphis, TN
#21 Omari Thomas DL 6'-4" 320 JR Memphis, TN
#22 Cameron Miller DB 6'-1" 206 FR Memphis, TN
#42 Hunter Barnes RB 6'-0" 190 FR Memphis, TN
#43 Jerrod Gentry DB 6'-0" 200 FR Memphis, TN
#48 Bennett Brady LS 6'-1" 205 FR Memphis, TN
#51 Elijah Simmons DL 6'-2" 340 JR Memphis, TN
#57 Ben Bolton LB 6'-3" 220 FR Memphis, TN
#58 Isaac Green DL 6'-0" 300 JR Memphis, TN
#75 Jerome Carvin OL 6'-5" 321 SR Memphis, TN
#47 Matthew Salansky LS 5'-11" 245 JR Morristown, TN
#80 Montrell Bandy DB 6'-3" 185 FR Mount Juliet, TN
#17 Andre Turrentine DB 5'-11" 195 FR Murfreesboro, TN
#26 Lucien Brunetti DB 6'-0" 165 FR Nashville, TN
#35 Patrick Wilk RB 5'-11" 200 FR Nashville, TN
#36 William Wright DB 6'-0" 190 SO Nashville, TN
#50 Jackson Lampley OL 6'-4" 320 JR Nashville, TN
#53 Jackson Hannah LB 6'-3" 225 JR Nashville, TN
#64 William Parker OL 6'-5" 310 FR Nashville, TN
#88 Princeton Fant TE 6'-2" 235 SR Nashville, TN
#93 Kolby Morgan P 5'-11" 200 FR Oneida, TN
#85 Carson Whitehead DB 5'-10" 175 FR Powell, TN
#11 LaTrell Bumphus DL 6'-3" 290 SR Savannah, TN
#41 Malik Ganaway DB 6'-2" 190 FR Trenton, TN
#67 Connor Meadows OL 6'-4" 300 FR Trenton, TN
 
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There is a whole lot of room to be really good at football underneath the bar of “good enough to play at the university of Tennessee.” Only the elite of the elite earn scholarships to schools like UT. Very small percentages. Blount County’s population is only 100,000. There have been SEC guys that came out of those two programs, but it ain’t going to be an every year or even every five years kind of thing. As others have said, the success of Alcoa and Maryville comes from culture, system, development, coaching. Alcoa kids see state championships as their birthright. You couple that with the occasional power 5 type kid and a whole bunch of really good (but not elite) players—future FCS and small school FBS ballers—and you get dynasties.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
2 of the best football high schools in the state and rarely do we ever get any recruits from them, kids signing with Va Tech, IU, etc. I know that those aren’t exactly football powerhouses, but we take depth recruits as well. Do the schemes in these schools make players appear better than they are?
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Soo.... those recent examples of kids we're missing out on then.... or was the example of football powerhouse IU meant to suffice?
 
#38
#38
Fulmer was 5 coaches ago. Are there any examples of worthy Maryville/Alcoa players ignored by UT in the past 10 years?
 
#39
#39
The privates have the best talent assembled in Tennessee high school football now that they can openly recruit and give scholarships. The teams that tend to compete for state titles are teams that seem to assemble the best players that would be zoned for other districts as well. Maryville and Alcoa has done it for years, Powell and Anderson County as well. Probably a decent chance that Greenville hasn't always been full of kids who would be zoned for Greenville either. That doesn't mean they have individual super stars. Oak Ridge had Tee Higgins and didn't win anything meaningful.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Tried to get him.

Most kids in state don’t get offered bc most kids aren’t good enough to compete in the SEC. Unfortunately the ones that are good enough have mostly went to other power programs until just recently.
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True, but we did not enter the hunt until Kentucky had already locked him up. Just too much ground tio make up.
 
#43
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
There is a whole lot of room to be really good at football underneath the bar of “good enough to play at the university of Tennessee.” Only the elite of the elite earn scholarships to schools like UT. Very small percentages. Blount County’s population is only 100,000. There have been SEC guys that came out of those two programs, but it ain’t going to be an every year or even every five years kind of thing. As others have said, the success of Alcoa and Maryville comes from culture, system, development, coaching. Alcoa kids see state championships as their birthright. You couple that with the occasional power 5 type kid and a whole bunch of really good (but not elite) players—future FCS and small school FBS ballers—and you get dynasties.
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Both of the Blount Co. schools recruit players from all over the State. backin the 1950s and 60s,, Dobyns Bennett high school would recruit players from all over East Tennessee and their Fathers would all of a sudden have a nice job in Kingsport. It happened for football, basketball, and baseball. They won a lot of games and were always ranked high in the State.
 
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Coach Quarles used to say "We won't scare anybody getting off the bus". Maryville has dominated in the past due to exceptional coaching and continuity of players in a similar system from pee-wee all the way up to high school. For decades, there weren't many schools that could approach that level of coordination and coaching. But once a more talented area developed exceptional coaching and a similar level of continuity of players, they took Maryville's crown. Oakland is the new Maryville, but with bigger, stronger, and faster players.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
Both of the Blount Co. schools recruit players from all over the State. backin the 1950s and 60s,, Dobyns Bennett high school would recruit players from all over East Tennessee and their Fathers would all of a sudden have a nice job in Kingsport. It happened for football, basketball, and baseball. They won a lot of games and were always ranked high in the State.
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That is also true. I’m an Alcoa alum and one of our starting offensive linemen as well as our starting qb my senior year had been at Heritage until our freshman year. Mysterious.
 
#49
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SamRebel35 said:
Coach Quarles used to say "We won't scare anybody getting off the bus". Maryville has dominated in the past due to exceptional coaching and continuity of players in a similar system from pee-wee all the way up to high school. For decades, there weren't many schools that could approach that level of coordination and coaching. But once a more talented area developed exceptional coaching and a similar level of continuity of players, they took Maryville's crown. Oakland is the new Maryville, but with bigger, stronger, and faster players.
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I second that. I saw Coach Quarles (and earlier Coach Hammontree) watching Pee-Wee/Midget practice. And it's not just the "city" PW/Midgets. The county teams too. They play the Maryville scheme from the time they are in flag football at age 8. By the time they are 12, they know the HS position that they will be playing. An example is Cade Thompson, QB at age 8 then was recruited by Spurrier at USCjr. Fulmer offered Aaron Douglas the day he was born.

In the early 2000s, there were other teams in the state that were bigger/stronger/faster than MHS but were totally outclassed on the field. I'll take a "team" over 3 or 4 athletes on a lesser "team" everyday.

What does this have to do with college recruiting - not much - but I had to get it said.
 
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