Why does it seem to be a foregone conclusion that Nico is gone after '25

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Halph66 said:
Peyton Manning's Statistics:

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Nico Iamaleava's Statistics:

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While I agree that Nico's year seemed to be less than stellar, when you compare Nico's 2024 year to Peyton's 1995 year the results are similar. Nico played 2 more games in 2024 than Peyton did in 1995. But the averages are not that far off.

Nico's play doesn't give me the same feeling that I had watching Peyton play. However, the numbers make me pause and gives me hope that Nico can perform. I will say Peyton had a much better offensive line in front of him throughout his career compared to what Nico has this year. The future will tell.
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Peyton played in a slightly more conservative offense
LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Comparing raw numbers 30 years apart is incredibly misleading. Compare Peyton to his peers in 95 and Nico to his peers last year. Peyton was top 10 in the country and top 3 in the SEC in virtually every stat in 1995. Nico was middle of the pack at best in every stat among SEC quarterbacks and never sniffed national leaderboards in any stat last year.
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I agree with this Nico should be compared to Lagway, Sellars & the Taylen green his peer QBs. Right now, if I was ranking these 4 it would be 1. Lagway 2. Sellars 3. Nico and 4 Green
 
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vavolfan6 said:
As long as Nico has a slight improvement to his performance this next year, he will be a top 10 pick. Just gotta connect on a few more deep balls and maybe show off his mobility a bit more. A little extra weight wouldn't hurt either.

The NFL will be enamored by him simply becuase of his high ceiling potential. He stands tall in the pocket and can throw a great spiral. He has the ability to be a dual threat QB. I've seen many QBs climb up the draft boards that had no business too based off of potential - Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, JJ McCarthy, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins, etc..
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Levis stats are actually not that bad. He has the mechanics the NFL looks for in a QB. Biggest problem was a horrible line that couldn't protect him, forcing early throws and INT's. I suspect he will get another chance next season, simply because the team is a dumpster fire right now
 
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KTrain said:
Peyton played in a slightly more conservative offense

I agree with this Nico should be compared to Lagway, Sellars & the Taylen green his peer QBs. Right now, if I was ranking these 4 it would be 1. Lagway 2. Sellars 3. Nico and 4 Green
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By peers, I meant “every other quarterback in the country.” Peyton’s stats were top 10 nationally in 95, not just among people in the same class as him.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Even if you want to say it’s BS about him meeting with other teams, the bottom line is someone in his position didn’t come here to still be slotted as a low pick after 3 years. And if he isn’t playing any better than that, I imagine the noise from the fanbase will get very loud and very critical.
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And Heupel always allows that to affect his decisions.
 
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KTrain said:
Peyton played in a slightly more conservative offense

I agree with this Nico should be compared to Lagway, Sellars & the Taylen green his peer QBs. Right now, if I was ranking these 4 it would be 1. Lagway 2. Sellars 3. Nico and 4 Green
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D.J. Lagway Stats:
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LaNorris Sellars Stats:
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Nico Iamaleava Stats:
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Taylen Green Stats:
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And for those that are currious, here is a link to the NCAA passer rating calculator.

But again, if the other two guys are considered top tier and Nico is not, then I feel pretty good about Nico. The numbers are not drastically different.
 

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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
By peers, I meant “every other quarterback in the country.” Peyton’s stats were top 10 nationally in 95, not just among people in the same class as him.
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well, the ones I listed are either Freshmen or 2nd year QBs and all young guns in the SEC playing a lot of the same competition. I get what you are saying but IMO he's not close to being on that National level, I'm just comparing some guys more aligned with his current status. Peyton was 4th in Heisman his 2nd year in college.
 
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Halph66 said:
Peyton Manning's Statistics:

View attachment 714761

Nico Iamaleava's Statistics:

View attachment 714762

While I agree that Nico's year seemed to be less than stellar, when you compare Nico's 2024 year to Peyton's 1995 year the results are similar. Nico played 2 more games in 2024 than Peyton did in 1995. But the averages are not that far off.

Nico's play doesn't give me the same feeling that I had watching Peyton play. However, the numbers make me pause and gives me hope that Nico can perform. I will say Peyton had a much better offensive line in front of him throughout his career compared to what Nico has this year. The future will tell.
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Why are you skipping Peyton’s freshman season?
 
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Doctrippin said:
Levis stats are actually not that bad. He has the mechanics the NFL looks for in a QB. Biggest problem was a horrible line that couldn't protect him, forcing early throws and INT's. I suspect he will get another chance next season, simply because the team is a dumpster fire right now
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Levis's issue is between his ears. He knows nothing but loosing.
 
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Halph66 said:
D.J. Lagway Stats:
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LaNorris Sellars Stats:
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Nico Iamaleava Stats:
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Taylen Green Stats:
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And for those that are currious, here is a link to the NCAA passer rating calculator.

But again, if the other two guys are considered top tier and Nico is not, then I feel pretty good about Nico. The numbers are not drastically different.
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I'm just going by the eye test none of those guys were starters from the getgo. shared time and Nico was, now after the first few games Nico looked great then he trended down had a good game vs Vandy. I think Lagway will be real dynamic next year and I'm glad we play UF next last next year. We will know by then if their good or bad Florida. Maybe they'll be bad Florida by then. Other years they've beat us early and ended up trending down and we wonder how we lost, basically players gave up that's my hope for 2025 Gator game.
 
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Halph66 said:
I didn't ESPN did.
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Like Nico he didn't start and was co 3rd string and took over as starter mid-season due to injury to Colquitt and Todd Helton quitting to concentrate on baseball (great decision) after he and Brandon Stewart another 5-star QB shared reps a few games. So, Nico & Peytons true Freshman years were both abbreviated, Peyton per Cutcliffe was basically a game manager as a true freshman.
 
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Halph66 said:
Peyton Manning's Statistics:

View attachment 714761

Nico Iamaleava's Statistics:

View attachment 714762

While I agree that Nico's year seemed to be less than stellar, when you compare Nico's 2024 year to Peyton's 1995 year the results are similar. Nico played 2 more games in 2024 than Peyton did in 1995. But the averages are not that far off.

Nico's play doesn't give me the same feeling that I had watching Peyton play. However, the numbers make me pause and gives me hope that Nico can perform. I will say Peyton had a much better offensive line in front of him throughout his career compared to what Nico has this year. The future will tell.
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If you look at it from a games played perspective, they are similar after two years.
 
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KTrain said:
Like Nico he didn't start and was co 3rd string and took over as starter mid-season due to injury to Colquitt and Todd Helton quitting to concentrate on baseball (great decision) after he and Brandon Stewart another 5-star QB shared reps a few games. So, Nico & Peytons true Freshman years were both abbreviated, Peyton per Cutcliffe was basically a game manager as a true freshman.
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Agreed. Peyton and Nico's numbers were similar their freshmen years.
 
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KTrain said:
I'm just going by the eye test none of those guys were starters from the getgo. shared time and Nico was, now after the first few games Nico looked great then he trended down had a good game vs Vandy. I think Lagway will be real dynamic next year and I'm glad we play UF next last next year. We will know by then if their good or bad Florida. Maybe they'll be bad Florida by then. Other years they've beat us early and ended up trending down and we wonder how we lost, basically players gave up that's my hope for 2025 Gator game.
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My point was that there seems to be a lot of negativities about Nico. I am not that concerned. I believe some of the issues were related to the O-line or lack thereof. I think the scheme was changed when they figure out that SEC teams found our weakness. The offense became vanilla. I don't know if that's because of Nico or because of the O-line, but I assume the latter.

But there has been high praise for the other QBs in the SEC. I looked at the stats for comparison and also looked at Peyton's numbers. I don't think the sky is falling. The numbers for all of them are very close. To boot the Nico lead team went 10-3 and made the CFP. Simply pointing out the numbers. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As they say, "everyone loves the backup, until it's time for the backup to perform"
 
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Halph66 said:
D.J. Lagway Stats:
View attachment 714778

LaNorris Sellars Stats:
View attachment 714780

Nico Iamaleava Stats:
View attachment 714781

Taylen Green Stats:
View attachment 714782

And for those that are currious, here is a link to the NCAA passer rating calculator.

But again, if the other two guys are considered top tier and Nico is not, then I feel pretty good about Nico. The numbers are not drastically different.
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Sellers did not look good in their bowl game. He was inaccurate on quite a few throws. Nico would have won that bowl game with the way he played in the playoff game..
 
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farmdogvol said:
Sellers did not look good in their bowl game. He was inaccurate on quite a few throws. Nico would have won that bowl game with the way he played in the playoff game..
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The other thing is look at the number of sacks for all the QBs. Lagway stayed clean, while the others were tackling dummies.
 
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UT97Vol said:
Because most draft boards have him as as first round pick for '26 and some even in the top 5. He would have to be epically bad this coming season or at least demonstrate that he's not progressing at all to fall out of first round contention.

But as others have said if he doesn't excel, it's hard to imagine him coming back with at least two other 5-star QB's on the roster. It's difficult to see him returning in '26 unless he just pulls a Peyton. Plays well, likes the college experience, and wants to do it again. I don't know him and not sure what his preferences are, but from a pure speculative point of view it's difficult to see him on the roster next year.
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Sorry if already discussed, but how much do first round QBs make in the NFL? Probably more than NIL, but I don't know. Even if it is close to what he's making/can get a raise for in NIL, it gets him one year faster to being out of the NFL rookie salary limits.

But, he would have to be really good - NFL level good - to make the most of it. The landscape is littered with former 5star QBs in college who have not been successful in the NFL. The math probably works in his favor to go as far as $ are concerned, but success isn't a given.

It's funny to watch this whole QB thing across multiple schools. texus fans just knew that Ewers was going to lead them to multiple NCs. Now, they are jumping for joy that he's decided to go to the NFL so that Arch Manning can lead them to multiple NCs. Ditto, several other schools. Crazy.
 
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