Why doesn't Jarnell Stokes get more criticism?

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He shows 4 or 5 good plays a game and that's it. Won't see him at all in the NBA. Nothing at all like the play that Tobias had as a freshman. Very disappointing.
 
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1985Vols said:
No, however, I think he could have been one heck of a football player Defensive end maybe? Remember Ed " Too tall" Jones?
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I believe he has a better shot at playing TE in the NFL than he does of having any sort of career in the NBA. If I were him, I'd spend my spare time catching passes.
 
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What makes people think he's not aggressive? He's only 6' 6" and he's #2 in the SEC in rebounds. I think people look at the fact that his style doesn't include playing above the rim, and they interpret this to mean he doesn't play hard. Barkley played above the rim offensively, but when it came to rebounding and defense, he didn't. If he did, he probably wouldn't have been as good of a rebounder.

Stokes is not a good offensive player, but the dude bangs and I guarantee opposing PFs hate to play him.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What makes people think he's not aggressive? He's only 6' 6" and he's #2 in the SEC in rebounds. I think people look at the fact that his style doesn't include playing above the rim, and they interpret this to mean he doesn't play hard. Barkley played above the rim offensively, but when it came to rebounding and defense, he didn't. If he did, he probably wouldn't have been as good of a rebounder.

Stokes is not a good offensive player, but the dude bangs and I guarantee opposing PFs hate to play him.
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Good points. Fans have a perception of him that he doesn't play hard. I think it's because he doesn't show a lot of emotion on the court. Always has that same look on his face. Misunderstood IMO.
 
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What you can say about Stokes is that he is averaging 1.34 points for every shot attempted and 9.3 rebounds per game. Those are great numbers and not the reason for our losses.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
What you can say about Stokes is that he is averaging 1.34 points for every shot attempted and 9.3 rebounds per game. Those are great numbers and not the reason for our losses.
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It is what our fanbase does. They pick out what they don't like and try to make it the reason we are losing.

Examples include: Stokes, the motion offense, player development

When in reality the reason we aren't consistently winning is in game coaching, motivation and accountability from our head coach.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
1. If they are worried about size, then Jarnell is much more of a concern. He's way undersized and he can't jump. Jordy is skinny but has everything else they love - athleticism, length, height, bounce, speed, scoring ability.

2. Yeah, GM's were so worried about Durant's size that they drafted him 2nd overall. If anything, Durant is an example of how silly it is to worry about a guy being skinny when it comes to playing guard in the NBA.
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The worry was about Durant's size, not his talent. McRae doesn't have half the talent Durant does, so no chance a GM takes a risk on that without elite talent to compensate.
 
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Daloth said:
The worry was about Durant's size, not his talent. McRae doesn't have half the talent Durant does, so no chance a GM takes a risk on that without elite talent to compensate.
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If McRae doesn't get drafted it won't be because he's skinny.
 
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I would like to see the Hawks draft a center like Cauley Stein and go after McRae. Millsap and Horford are undersized inside.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
It is what our fanbase does. They pick out what they don't like and try to make it the reason we are losing.

Examples include: Stokes, the motion offense, player development

When in reality the reason we aren't consistently winning is in game coaching, motivation and accountability from our head coach.
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Exactly right.:peace2:
 
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rdl2k7 said:
This really baffles me. Radio broadcasts, message boards, talk shows... I watch him play and he seems so slow and uninterested. In the TAMU game, multiple times players went by him while he didn't move, wasn't looking, etc. He has no ability to provide help side defense, he doesn't jump. I can't remember the last time I saw a hustle play from him.

Comes off the court after the second foul and people put up the high fives for him and he just walks by them. Then they put in Reese/etc and you see _effort_

Why doesn't he receive more criticism?
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Bump. 14 and 14. 6/6 from the line 4/7 from the field.
 
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SlyStone said:
I concur. There are several facets to his game that has improved. You mentioned one already. Enjoy him folks, this may be his last season.:thumbsup:
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One of our former coaches said he's almost certain it is his last.
 
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SJAVol32 said:
Bump. 14 and 14. 6/6 from the line 4/7 from the field.
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This is the whole point. He can play like THIS and then he just disappears. Some of other guys can't play like this. Today's game by Jarnell was terrific at some points and not so much at others. And games like NC State, Auburn, TAMU, etc he was lumbering and not doing exactly what he did today.

This game was the reason for the entire thread. The 1st half, Jarnell Stokes gave the effort and aggressive intensity that we know he can give. Where is it ALL the time rather than just when he chooses to turn it on.
 
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rdl2k7 said:
This is the whole point. He can play like THIS and then he just disappears. Some of other guys can't play like this. Today's game by Jarnell was terrific at some points and not so much at others. And games like NC State, Auburn, TAMU, etc he was lumbering and not doing exactly what he did today.

This game was the reason for the entire thread. The 1st half, Jarnell Stokes gave the effort and aggressive intensity that we know he can give. Where is it ALL the time rather than just when he chooses to turn it on.
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Stokes playing for his future right now. A lot of NBA scouts watching when KY plays. Against Ark. We'd night, he'll have 12 points and 9 rebounds in a lackluster effort. He showed today he can be a very good player but has not shown he is willing to bring it every night.
 
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