Why doesn't Tennessee have a gymnatics team?

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LV renaissance said:
Given the near consensus here that starting a gymnastics program at UT is implausible, it is interesting to note that one Tennessee university took a different stance. This year, Fisk University in Nashville became the first HBCU to field a gymnastics team. It is already a serious program with a five-star recruit who gets 9.9 scores and a coach Corrinne Tarver who was the first African American to win a NCAA title in gymnastics. Kudos to Fisk!
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Absolutely! That’s an amazing story.
 
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Amorphousblob said:
Several years ago, a graduate assistant who had been a gymnast at a D1 school in undergrad, said it was because Jenny Moshak claimed there were too many injuries in gymnastics and used her leverage with Coach Summitt to keep gymnastics out of UT.
True?
Who knows, but with Dave Hart as AD, there's absolutely no chance now.
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This is incorrect.

reasons they didn't
high injury rate
low scholarship numbers
low interest from donors. needed $25 million endowment to start program
High cost especially start-up cost

Joan Cronan made the decision after her department did a complete study
 
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reasons they didn't start gymnastics:
high injury rate
low scholarship numbers
low interest from donors. needed $25 million endowment to start program
High cost especially start-up cost

Joan Cronan made the decision after her department did a complete study

plus UT has a world class rowing lake right next door
 
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LV renaissance said:
I agree that finances have to be considered. However, it seems apparent that some of the dialogue here is fueled more by antipathy towards women sports under the guise of only looking at it from a financial angle. College gymnastics is growing exponentially on TV, with both the SEC and ESPN networks increasing coverage and revenue every year. Unlike any other women's sports, the student sections are consistently packed at the big gymnastic schools. It also pulls in some unique fans (fans that don't follow the school's other sports), and so they likely increase contributions to the school and athletic department that are not clearly earmarked as being from gymnastic fans. If you don't believe how gung-ho gymnastic fans are, watch one of the broadcasts. Last night I watched LSU at Utah. They said that over the past 20 years Utah had an average attendance of just below 15,000 which is about the capacity of their arena. They were all wearing red and white Utah clothing, which I imagine again doesn't get earmarked as gymnastics revenue but just goes to the general apparel revenue. As someone who supports women sports, it is great to a women's sport that is so supported by the students and the general public. I am an alumnus of both LSU and UT, and am certainly glad that LSU has gymnastics. In fact, their gymnastic program is a source of school and community pride with the coaches being local celebrities. I love that Lady Vol basketball has this impact in Knoxville and to a lesser extent the softball team. I just think UT is missing the boat by not having one of their women's sports be the one that is becoming so popular with growing tv revenue.
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really doesn't matter it comes down to 2 things

Money - high cost
Scholarship numbers - Low

add any new sports at UT for women
1. Field Hockey
2. Lacrosse

Both give high numbers in scholarships
 
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BTW, Collegiate gymnastics is 2 hours of the most insane athleticism you will ever witness.
A LOT of the elite gymnasts are now participating in college gymnastics. Sunni Lee (Auburn), Jade Carey (Oregon St), and Trinity Thomas (FL), just to name a few
 
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I can appreciate rowing but it’s quite difficult to create a fan base and/or revenue from spectators lined up on a 2 mile long riverbank. With gymnastics, you use an existing climate controlled facility and can actually hear the fans cheering.
 
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Bottom line with the House settlement nearing a completion, its highly unlikely you see even SEC schools with the exception of maybe Texas or Texas A&M adding sports. If Lacrosse continues its growth you might see it added in exchange for dropping another one. But I just can't see new additions. I think the more likely route is you see lower tier SEC schools or schools with more sports than the average SEC school (Kentucky with 21) cut sports.
 
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Women's gymnastics requires the participants to demonstrate extreme control of their bodies.
The powers that be in certain locales prefer, even insist and demand, that such control be reserved for men, typically of the geriatric variety.
 
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NOW after the Olympics and the USA pulling a bronze medal with the dynamics and growing popularity of rugby, women’s rugby team at UT? Facilities already in place, it’s a plug and play IMO.
 
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Remy said:
NOW after the Olympics and the USA pulling a bronze medal with the dynamics and growing popularity of rugby, women’s rugby team at UT? Facilities already in place, it’s a plug and play IMO.
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Tennessee will never add another varsity sport. In fact, I’d be very surprised if they have as many sports in 10 years as they have today.

If a sport doesn’t currently have regular season games on the SEC Network, I’m not sure it’ll be around in the same form once we’re a few years into the revenue sharing system that starts next year.
 
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NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—After pleading guilty in federal court on Monday, George Santos offered to return all eleven of his Olympic medals.

“Although it pains me to do so, only by returning my medals can I remove the cloud from the sport I have loved and dominated for so long: gymnastics,” he said.

Promising to “continue cheering on my USA teammates just as they cheered me on in Paris,” Santos made an emotional plea to his “millions of fans around the world.”

“When you think of me, please don’t think of George Santos, convicted liar,” he said. “Think of George Santos, GOAT.”
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DeerPark12 said:
Tennessee will never add another varsity sport. In fact, I’d be very surprised if they have as many sports in 10 years as they have today.

If a sport doesn’t currently have regular season games on the SEC Network, I’m not sure it’ll be around in the same form once we’re a few years into the revenue sharing system that starts next year.
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Anyone who thinks any non revenue sport is actually going to be added has been living in a cave. IMO every sport south of volleyball and soccer is in serious jeopardy in the near future. Nico's Ferrari is expensive to maintain. Question is what can be saved, not what might be added.
 
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glv98 said:
Nico's deal and Rickea's deal not in the same universe. All you had to do for Rickea was beat a 75,000$ rookie salary.
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Actually, and I realized posting the above earlier, neither one should affect the Department’s bottom line. That’s assuming NIL is actually separated from the university.

I’m curious how things will change when the “agreement” comes out.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Actually, and I realized posting the above earlier, neither one should affect the Department’s bottom line. That’s assuming NIL is actually separated from the university.

I’m curious how things will change when the “agreement” comes out.
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In the setup being talked about, the school would pay all athletes a base salary seperate fm NIL. That's why they'll be dropping, and not adding non revenue sports.
 
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