Why is everyone on the QB for the issues?

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SEC QB Stats through 3 games (copied from another site)

Milton

13th ... Quarterback rating
10th ... Completion percentage
13th ... Yards per attempt
11th ... Yards per completion
12th ... Third down conversion percentage
13th ... Fourth down conversion percentage
 
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Godfatha said:
Likewise, if in year 3 we cannot find someone better than Hadden to get on the field, we haven't recruited well enough or developed what we recruited.
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I've been a fan of Tennessee football for 42 years. He is the first Vol that I have ever truly disliked. We have had selfish players with bad attitudes in the past (Kelley Washington immediately comes to mind), but they were always good players .... Hadden brings nothing to the table.
 
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DonDiego said:
I'm going to have to go back and watch that interception by Milton again. If I remember correctly, he had a receiver downfield, but unfortunately, he was wearing a 400 lb defensive lineman when he let the pass go,
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There was a receiver open over the middle. He chose to go to the deep route which took to much time.
Should have been a 20-25 yard reception to open receiver.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I've been a fan of Tennessee football for 42 years. He is the first Vol that I have ever truly disliked. We have had selfish players with bad attitudes in the past (Kelley Washington immediately comes to mind), but they were always good players .... Hadden brings nothing to the table.
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He made 2 big stops in the fourth quarter that stopped UF drives.
 
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farmdogvol said:
There was a receiver open over the middle. He chose to go to the deep route which took to much time.
Should have been a 20-25 yard reception to open receiver.
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Yeah, he should have known his line was going to collapse to, not the blitz, but a 400# defensive lineman coming up the middle.. I'm glad we didn't bench every QB that lost a game in the swamp. Vol history would surely be a lot different.
 
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Defense weaker than a wet paper bag, and the whole team made enough mistakes to cost the game.

QB wasn't perfect, but he wasn't any worse than the rest of them.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I've been a fan of Tennessee football for 42 years. He is the first Vol that I have ever truly disliked. We have had selfish players with bad attitudes in the past (Kelley Washington immediately comes to mind), but they were always good players .... Hadden brings nothing to the table.
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Agree, I don't mind an attitude as much if you back it up. But he's done nothing but gotten beat, miss costly tackles, and still keeps talking. If I was getting beat like that, I would shut up
 
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Look back at Tennessee's qb history you stick with a winner, time will tell. Hope he is . THat said at some point if he has to pass 90% sideline out passes to avoid picks it's time for change.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
OP, to directly answer your question: folks complain about the QB first and foremost because they don't understand the game in any of its real complexity.

Fact is, most football fans follow the ball with their eyes, almost uniquely. It is the only way they can keep up with the action. And human vision is suprisingly narrow. Where one focuses, that spot is sharp and clear; but even 10 degrees off to either side, up or down, it gets blurry, quick. So when a person follows the ball, to keep up, they hardly see, and rarely notice, how the line are doing; what the guys on the periphery are up to.

In short, they watch the QB. A LOT. And so, they see his imperfections far more than those of the rest of the team.

I'm not defending Joe; his performance was poor this week. But the OL was also not good, and nor were the DL and the DBs. All those position groups were off their game this week. As well as individuals from the other groups, too (WR, LB, RB). The Special Teams were the only group I don't remember seeing a significant number of miscues.

We just gotta execute and communicate better, across the board. Trading QBs will not cure our ills. It's going to take the entire team getting their heads outta their butts. And maybe sending Hadden packing would help, too.

Go Vols!
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Agree pretty much with everything in this post.

Another major issue was how unprepared the team was for the road crowd.
 
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Their is a spark missing somewhere, Nico might or not be it, their could be internal issues, list goes on
 
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Joe hasn’t been perfect, but Mahomes couldn’t make plays with this pass protection. O-line is swiss cheese right now. All the quick screens isn’t a lack of faith in Joe. It’s a lack of faith in the O-line to protect long enough for big plays to develop. Look what Joe did last year when our line play was better…
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He also had one of the worst missed tackles I've ever seen .... and it was very costly.
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He didn't miss a tackle, per se...he committed an ineffective nudge. If he'd have at least attempted to wrap up the ball carrier or lunged and missed, ok...at least that would have been a sign of effort on some level beyond a collision fit for the canned goods aisle at Food City.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I saw a defense that would NOT get off the field and gave up 8 minute drives that kept our offense from even being on the field. The defense was the primary weakness in Gainesville and needs to be fixed. It looked worse than last year (notably against the run).
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Milton has always looked bad. The playbook is handicapped, the area he can throw is very limited, therefore the field is asmaller zone for defenses to protect. He don't rally his players that I can tell. He's a drive killer man, it's time to stop protecting him.

Defense is and always has been for the most part under Banks, out of position. Aggressive line play, but then has a secondary that bends. IT'S STUPID
 
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Milton had a great Orange bowl. It was reasonable to believe he’d light it up this season. Physically the guy is virtually unmatched as to talent. Where I see deficiencies in my very limited view is with respect to adjusting on the fly, improvising, leading on the sidelines, something is missing and I don’t wanna believe that because I really like the guy. But can he lead? Also, this system requires a qb to coach on the field, not seeing that. To be fair, we’ve got a new OC and yeah the oline has sucked. But does the qb have some protection calls or adjustments within the system? I just believe the intangibles are missing with Joe.
 
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SmokeyLives said:
Milton had a great Orange bowl. It was reasonable to believe he’d light it up this season. Physically the guy is virtually unmatched as to talent. Where I see deficiencies in my very limited view is with respect to adjusting on the fly, improvising, leading on the sidelines, something is missing and I don’t wanna believe that because I really like the guy. But can he lead? Also, this system requires a qb to coach on the field, not seeing that. To be fair, we’ve got a new OC and yeah the oline has sucked. But does the qb have some protection calls or adjustments within the system? I just believe the intangibles are missing with Joe.
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Milton had a good orange bowl but I wouldn’t call it great. He made some plays but have you went back and looked at the box score stats? We was 3/13 on 3rd down. We punted 8 times. It’s not like we had an offensive explosion, hell Clemson had 100 yards more of total offense than we did.
 
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Joe has his labilities, and I don't see them changing at this point. Maybe he can improve on some aspects, but a wholesale change I can't see coming. Disappointed that the OL has taken a considerable step back, to the point that no QB is going to get the time they'd like back there. Windows are too short with them right now. The thing we better not hear next year is the OL finding holes to plug or shifting guys around due to "weaknesses". If your identity is offense, the first dang thing you do is put your OL as priority #1, even if that is limited to the starting 5. Never regress at your OL if that is what you do. Then we can talk QBs.
 
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Volhoops said:
You mean like the ones that blamed JG all those years and come to find out they were right ? Milton is the next JG here but at least JG was tough.
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Jg Literally threw more picks in one half than Milton has his entire career. Ignorance is bliss I guess so carry on.
 
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tbh said:
He didn't miss a tackle, per se...he committed an ineffective nudge. If he'd have at least attempted to wrap up the ball carrier or lunged and missed, ok...at least that would have been a sign of effort on some level beyond a collision fit for the canned goods aisle at Food City.
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If he would have wrapped up it would have slowed etienne down and the others would have caught up. So tired of seeing Hadden let huge plays like this happen.
 
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Midas said:
If he would have wrapped up it would have slowed etienne down and the others would have caught up. So tired of seeing Hadden let huge plays like this happen.
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Yep. He seems to be more interested in making the highlight reels with a heavy hit than he is interested in playing fundamentally sound football. Joke's on him, though...he sure did make some highlight reels.
 
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Same thing happened against UGa last year. This offense is not built to operate behind the sticks. When it's 1st and 15, we are not a very good offense b3cause the approach and play calls for that drive are now off the table and a more conservative play must be ran.
 
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