Why is it so hard to win at Texas now?

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#54
Baylor
TCU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
LSU

Have all gotten a lot better and have recruited some of the best players in the state. Texas no longer gets every 4-5* in the state.
 
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#56
The conference has changed so much that if you aren't scoring points you'll never be a winning team. Stoops somehow managed to get enough great players on offense and defense, but the fact is that the best defensive talent is going outside the conference, and because Texas HS football is dominated by the spread and everyone is trying to throw throw throw, you have a bunch of guys that don't want to play defense, and the ones that do play defense can't tackle. Texas isn't completely dead as a recruiting state because there are some great athletes but they are way too soft compared to kids from FL, GA, LA, and California. Charlie was trying to build a national championship squad organically, but the defense was never there. I wonder how many JuCo guys he got to contribute on that side of the ball, because I think that's how Stoops has had his defense at least competent.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
Strong should have never left Louisville. Not that Louisville fans are complaining now. He just wasn't prepared for the high pressure atmosphere of a place like Texas. Makes me think he would have done the same thing here.
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I'm sure there's an "inside story" that will come out eventually on Strong's failure at Texas, but I agree with you. Particularly over the past decade, you can see that some coaches really struggle managing the "prestige programs."

It's totally different to be the Head Coach at Texas, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, Alabama, etc, than it is to be Head Coach at places like Louisville, NC State, Washington State, Iowa, etc. Even if the latter group are all in P5 conferences, the donor class and fanbases at the "prestige programs" are a completely different beast to work with. You have to be a master at public relations and politics in the modern era at those programs and some coaches can't handle that aspect of the job.

I suspect that Charlie Strong will get another mid-major job, and struggle for a few seasons, before succeeding again. He's an excellent football coach, even if he didn't look like one at Texas.
 
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ptclaus98 said:
The conference has changed so much that if you aren't scoring points you'll never be a winning team. Stoops somehow managed to get enough great players on offense and defense, but the fact is that the best defensive talent is going outside the conference, and because Texas HS football is dominated by the spread and everyone is trying to throw throw throw, you have a bunch of guys that don't want to play defense, and the ones that do play defense can't tackle. Texas isn't completely dead as a recruiting state because there are some great athletes but they are way too soft compared to kids from FL, GA, LA, and California. Charlie was trying to build a national championship squad organically, but the defense was never there. I wonder how many JuCo guys he got to contribute on that side of the ball, because I think that's how Stoops has had his defense at least competent.
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How are they soft? They used to be the very best players! Something is going on.
 
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volberry said:
How are they soft? They used to be the very best players! Something is going on.
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Much less contact in practice, for one. Coaches fear losing their star players in scrimmages so contact drills have been reduced.
If you don't practice tackling then you'll never master it.
 
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MrBiggles said:
Baylor
TCU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
LSU

Have all gotten a lot better and have recruited some of the best players in the state. Texas no longer gets every 4-5* in the state.
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I would also add that A&M's move to the SEC hasn't helped either. More and more the Mississippi and Alabama schools are recruiting and signing Texas HS talent.

Plus Urban Meyer needs to keep his azz in Ohio.
 
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#61
Even though they suck, they're still the top game for everyone in their league. No one overlooks playing Texas cause they are so obnoxious
 
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#63
Lose to Kansas and get a tv. :loco:


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So this is how they justify the Longhorn Network...kids can't wait to see that '69 Arkansas game AGAIN.
 
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#64
New sheriff in town. Texas will win big again under this guy.
 
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butchna said:
New sheriff in town. Texas will win big again under this guy.
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Maybe. Texas actually has more problems with their boosters screwing things up than we do. Way too many 10 gallon hats in the henhouse. Too much money and power at stake and too many Texas-sized egos.
 
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General Jack said:
Maybe. Texas actually has more problems with their boosters screwing things up than we do. Way too many 10 gallon hats in the henhouse. Too much money and power at stake and too many Texas-sized egos.
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They throw it AT the program tho. The right coach can use that to build a monster.
 
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#69
Check out the history of their program:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Texas_Longhorns_football_seasons

Solid history and tradition, but it doesn't stack up against the more storied programs in college football.

Texas is an attractive job because they've got a ton of money and they are the big school in a state with a lot of talent. Also, the situation with the administration/boosters at the moment is apparently so political it makes Tennessee's problems look like child's play.
 
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butchna said:
New sheriff in town. Texas will win big again under this guy.
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Texas really needs to stop losing QBs to us. Herman is on his way to becoming Mack Brown 2.0:

http://www.hookem.com/author/kbohls/

Kirk Bohls released this week’s nine things and one crazy prediction. A couple were dedicated to the Longhorns. Here’s Kirk’s take on those items:

On why Texas lost out on a transfer QB:

Texas lost out on another possible grad transfer in Arizona’s Anu Solomon, who transferred to Baylor partly because he declared so early that he was leaving the Wildcats and enrolled at midterm. He said Texas never reached out to him, but that was before third-string Longhorns quarterback Matthew Merrick gave up football, leaving Texas with only two scholarship quarterbacks. With different timing, Texas would have been interested. Solomon said after Baylor’s spring game that he never heard from Texas and said, “Of course, I’d like to have talked to every coach.” He was restricted from talking to any other Pac-12 school; he visited Oklahoma State and North Carolina. … Oh, he was born in Hawaii, knows how to surf, and his real name is Jarrett Pekelo Kahanuolaokalani Solomon. I’d love to see all of that on the back of his jersey. And he’s scared of rain. Seriously.

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On Tom Herman’s thoughts on the early signing period the official visit window NCAA proposal:

Credit (Tom) Herman for luring two high-profile quarterback commitments away from Oklahoma, as big a win-win situation as there is. Herman isn’t adopting Mack Brown’s philosophy of filling his recruiting class before the season, but will take players early if they’re the caliber of player who can help Texas win a national championship. Herman did tell me, “I think the early signing period for football is a great opportunity for everyone involved and long overdue. It allows those who know for certain that Texas is the place for them to go ahead and sign. I think it’s a positive step by the NCAA.” However, Herman said he is “disappointed by the length of the official visit window they decided on (April, May and June). I thought that’s something we could get done in a six-week stretch in April and half of May. My concern is that hosting recruits and recruiting will be dipping even more into our assistant coaches’ quality of life and well-being. They need some time to get away with their families.”


Notre Dame quarterback Malik Zaire, left, runs with the ball against Texas defensive end Naashon Hughes during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Sept. 5, 2015, in South Bend, Ind. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)
On Texas’ chances on landing Notre Dame quarterback Malik Zaire:

Notre Dame quarterback Malik Zaire is no closer to picking a school as a grad transfer and may not until after he graduates in late May. Texas remains on his list, but one source close to the situation told me Tuesday “it’s less than 50-50” that he will become a Longhorn. … Tom Herman will not move Jerrod Heard full-time to quarterback but only because he thinks so highly of Heard’s hands and routes as a wideout. He’d get between eight and 12 plays to get the Longhorns through a game if it’s an emergency. That’s a pretty good fallback.

For the rest of Kirk’s 9 Things, including his thoughts on Baylor quarterback Charlie Brewer, former UT golfer Bob Estes and Jim Harbaugh taking his team to Italy, click here.





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Remember when Mack Brown thought that RGIII was a college WR? Brown also blew the evaluations of Drew Brees and Todd Reesing, Austin HS QBs.

Herman missed out on Charlie Brewer, a longhorn legacy at QB. Brewer's grandfather, father and uncle were all starting QBs for the whorns. Charlie was 1-1 in state championship games at Austin Lake Travis HS and set the national record for competition percentage in a season last season (77%).
 
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BUBear said:
Texas really needs to stop losing QBs to us. Herman is on his way to becoming Mack Brown 2.0:

http://www.hookem.com/author/kbohls/


Remember when Mack Brown thought that RGIII was a college WR? Brown also blew the evaluations of Drew Brees and Todd Reesing, Austin HS QBs.

Herman missed out on Charlie Brewer, a longhorn legacy at QB. Brewer's grandfather, father and uncle were all starting QBs for the whorns. Charlie was 1-1 in state championship games at Austin Lake Travis HS and set the national record for competition percentage in a season last season (77%).
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Eh, I'm not a longhorn fan but they've got the QBs they want committed.
 
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General Jack said:
Eh, I'm not a longhorn fan but they've got the QBs they want committed.
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Yes they do and I'm happy for them.

Credit (Tom) Herman for luring two high-profile quarterback commitments away from Oklahoma, as big a win-win situation as there is.
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Oklahoma's QB evaluation hasn't been very good of late, also. The Sooners had to run a starter off, to A&M, and pilfer Baker Mayfield from Texas Tech. Mayfield would have never seen the field in Lubbock sitting behind Pat Mahomes (1st round pick).
 
#75
#75
It's not hard to win at Texas.

They just hired a complete failure as a head coach, after they fired a pretty good one who was fading.
 
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