Why Is Missouri In The SEC?

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dduncan4163 said:
They are Vandy without the Academics. WVU has a much bigger and loyal fan base but Mizzou has a big TV market. That's the only reason the SEC wanted them. They are a fish out of water in the SEC but so is Nebraska in The Big Ten. The bright side is they are as close to a guaranteed win as you'll find these days. Pinkel had them playing above their weight but he's gone and I hope they keep Drink around for a long long time.
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Mizzou just gave Drinkwitz a 2 million dollar pay increase. Drink is 15-17 (10-14) and making 6 million bucks a year. Absolutely ridiculous!
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I would have rather had VT than Missouri, but I think Virginia and VT are kind of attached at the hip. Or at least they were back in 2011.
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How about trading Missouri for Jackson State University? They're as Southern as you can get. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

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Jeff Clark said:
Trade Missouri for FSU and redesign the SEC Divisions
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Naw, let's do something wild, crazy, daring, historic, be the first. Just like we were when we dared to make Condredge Holloway a SEC QB. Be trending setting again. At the very least, Vandy would have a potential beatable opponent. At least in theory.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Ya, I know it's a pretty big school, but nationally, UNC and Duke are significantly larger brands. This is just my personal perspective, but I even consider Wake to be a bigger national brand than NCState. What I was mostly trying to say is I don't think NCState adds much to the SEC and would be way down my list to add.

Is the fanbase really that big? I feel like I know a "fan" or 3 for almost everyone, but I don't know a single NCState fan.
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You bring up a good point. I was only exposed to the NC State fan base because I lived in Raleigh. In the Raleigh area, it seemed like the fan bases were split between NC State, Duke and UNC. I have in-laws who are State fans and in-laws who are UNC fans, none of whom are alumni.

Outside North Carolina though, it's a different story. You find mostly UNC and Duke fans nationwide, primarily because of basketball. So yeah, I think you could make a valid argument the fan base and media exposure for NC State is not that big by comparison. This may be the reason a football program (like TN), with a large fan base, stadium capacity, and ability to "move the needle" during big games with the media coverage can bounce back from mediocrity with a deep athletic budget, while other schools cannot. The NIL deal will further separate the "haves" from the "have nots".
 
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ArmchairQB said:
Surprising to me a bit maybe, but there does seem to be a non-athletic, non-TV market component to expansion. We had two AAU schools: Florida and Vandy. We've added Missouri, Texas A&M, and soon Texas. Our universities with the biggest endowments used to be Vandy and Florida. Texas, A&M and Mizzou are 1, 2, and 5 now - Vandy's down to 3rd.

Say we go nuts and decide to expand again into some kind of a super conference. If we hang onto geography at all, and try to track with that above, we'd try to rip the heart out of the ACC and take UNC, Duke and Virginia. All three are AAU members, Virginia and Duke have massive financial endowments, and they're TV markets we currently don't have.
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What's the big deal with AAU certification in an athletic conference?
 
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Mizzou fan here and I come in peace. Wanted to get in a Mizzou point of view here on why we are in the SEC. You can thank Oklahoma for being the catalyst that set this in motion for our joining. When the Men of Corn left for the Big 10, The Fighting Ralfies for the PAC 10, and A&M for the SEC, they all left because of being sick of dealing with Texas. The high up administrations of Mizzou and OU started working closely together to try and save the Big 12 after these departures. After working with OU it was learned that OU was quietly working on a deal to have them and Oklahoma State join the Pac 12. This was done behind Missouri's back.

Mizzou went into self preservation mode after learning this. The AD at Florida at the time was from Chesterfield MO a St. Louis suburb. He did let Mizzou know that the SEC had 13 and needed 1 more to make 14. He basically said if your going to make a change, the time is NOW, and the conference would welcome your joining.

HOF coach Gary Pinkel was our coach and was very much in favor and a proponent of the university raising the bar in all areas of athletics. He very much wanted to compete against the best schools on a regular basis. One of his best friends is Nick Saban from their days together at Kent State. They are so close that coach Saban wrote the forward to coach Pinkels book, and he stopped in Columbia with his plane and they flew to Washington for coach Don James funeral together. This friendship also influenced Pinkels mindset of lets join and play the best.

We are very happy and appreciative to compete in the SEC and grateful for the opportunity. It is disheartening and sad to see comments here on this board and from other conference schools fans that we are not wanted or a good fit for the SEC. This being said we do very much realize that we have to raise the bar at our end to compete for conference championships in all sports in the SEC. This is talked about via the media constantly from the top levels of the university down to all levels. Here in St. Louis, Mizzou and the SEC, are everyday topics in our media. St. Louis is a pro sports town yes, but very much a SEC enthusiast and fans of the conference.

Have fun Saturday, as will we, enjoying the opportunity to compete on the big stage at Rocky Top.

MIZ...
 
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hog88 said:
What's the big deal with AAU certification in an athletic conference?
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Depends who you ask. I think I read once the Big 10 would only consider adding AAU schools. Where, say, being in the SEC means you're likely a very strong university athletically, being in the AAU means you're a very strong university academically. Being in the AAU basically means you're a really big research university with a ton of money. Is that necessary as far as athletics? Not really, I mean it's not going to make you field a better team. But it means that the actual university that your teams are part of is super healthy and among the best there is.

In other words, it's kind of a question of do people want to say their conference isn't just full of the best athletic programs, but rather the best universities in the whole country, or are we really more a "we ain't here to play school" kind of place?
 
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Really wish we could've got NC State. Usually decent in all sports and a close drive. Not sure they were ever considered or they may have had no interest.
 
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vols 30 said:
Really wish we could've got NC State. Usually decent in all sports and a close drive. Not sure they were ever considered or they may have had no interest.
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Yeah NCSU would have been better than Arkansas,Missouri or Texas A&M
 
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