Why Mike Anderson? Would be a Step Backwards

#51
#51
VOLINVONORE said:
Just another reason why we should keep Pearl. We will not be able to hire a coach as good as Pearl and he has learned a valuable lesson. I hope Pearl is our coach for the next ten years.
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What reason do you have to believe this?

After Pearl recorded Deon Thomas and got blackballed from the coaching fraternity entirely (As much as I detest Dickie V, he got it right when he called Pearl's move "career suicide" on a national broadcast) to the point that he left an Iowa assistant job to take a DII head coaching position. He had to work his way back up again through Southern Indiana and UMW. When he came to UT, he said several times that he was thankful that a major conference school gave him a chance and that he would make our decision pay off.

If he didn't learn from this, will a pay cut and missing a season or two really teach him anything? He spent 9 years in purgatory at S. Indiana and here we are.

With that kind of history, he had to know that he would be under extreme amounts of scrutiny (everyone wants to snitch on the snitch when they do wrong), and he still chose to violate rules.

Then you have further proof that he just doesn't learn when he violates the bump rule just a few days after his tear-filled press conference here. The bump violation itself isn't important, but the way that Pearl blatantly disregarded NCAA rules when he should have known he was already on thin ice shows that he believes himself to be bigger than those very rules.

There is a disturbing pattern of behavior here, and I don't have any faith that he will learn anything from this incident. I further believe that if we allow him to stay after all of this, we can only hold ourselves accountable a few years down the road when he's caught again.

If it was just about what happens on the court, I would support keeping Pearl. Unfortunately, the program stands to suffer much more severe penalties now and puts itself at risk for further penalties in the future if it keeps Pearl.
 
#55
#55
bleedorange0037 said:
Pearl has his shortcomings, on the court and off, there is no arguing that fact. However, another fact that can't be argued is that for all these things, no coach in the history of this program has had even half of the success that Pearl has. That's got to count for something.
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It all counted until he, all by himself, screwed the pooch with his recruiting violations and lying to cover those violations.

After that it don't count for much.
 
#56
#56
hatvol96 said:
About as much as Pearl's awesome 8-8 in his sixth year in a sewer league like the SEC does.
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You need a higher standard in a new hire to excite the fan base when a large percentage of fans is still satisfied with the status quo.
 
#57
#57
Velo Vol said:
You need a higher standard in a new hire to excite the fan base when a large percentage of fans is still satisfied with the status quo.
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Well the way it appears to be shaping up next year, setting the NCAA issues aside, a large percentage of the fans were headed for a rude awakening as next year's team is shaping up to be a huge drop off. Sounds like a large percentage of the fans need to wake up.
 
#59
#59
VOLNBAMA said:
His record and resume is similar to Pearl's. Not to mention he runs a clean program
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You have NO clue as to the cleanness of his program....breaking news....EVERY program in this country is only an NCAA investigation away from sanctions....Even the one's we deem "clean"....that is something we should have learned by now!!!!!
 
#60
#60
First&Tenn said:
What reason do you have to believe this?

After Pearl recorded Deon Thomas and got blackballed from the coaching fraternity entirely (As much as I detest Dickie V, he got it right when he called Pearl's move "career suicide" on a national broadcast) to the point that he left an Iowa assistant job to take a DII head coaching position. He had to work his way back up again through Southern Indiana and UMW. When he came to UT, he said several times that he was thankful that a major conference school gave him a chance and that he would make our decision pay off.

If he didn't learn from this, will a pay cut and missing a season or two really teach him anything? He spent 9 years in purgatory at S. Indiana and here we are.

With that kind of history, he had to know that he would be under extreme amounts of scrutiny (everyone wants to snitch on the snitch when they do wrong), and he still chose to violate rules.

Then you have further proof that he just doesn't learn when he violates the bump rule just a few days after his tear-filled press conference here. The bump violation itself isn't important, but the way that Pearl blatantly disregarded NCAA rules when he should have known he was already on thin ice shows that he believes himself to be bigger than those very rules.

There is a disturbing pattern of behavior here, and I don't have any faith that he will learn anything from this incident. I further believe that if we allow him to stay after all of this, we can only hold ourselves accountable a few years down the road when he's caught again.

If it was just about what happens on the court, I would support keeping Pearl. Unfortunately, the program stands to suffer much more severe penalties now and puts itself at risk for further penalties in the future if it keeps Pearl.
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Okay so the history lesson was on track until you hung you're hat on the bump violation.....HAPPENS EVERY DAY....That bump should be easy to contest.....the rest is where the smoke is....forget the bump...
 
#61
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tennrich1 said:
You have NO clue as to the cleanness of his program....breaking news....EVERY program in this country is only an NCAA investigation away from sanctions....Even the one's we deem "clean"....that is something we should have learned by now!!!!!
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not really true. UT basketball would have been fine without the lying and UT baseball just got cleared after an investigation
 
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utvolpj said:
not really true. UT basketball would have been fine without the lying and UT baseball just got cleared after an investigation
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Lying or not it was still a rules violation. I guess it all depends on someones interpretation of a "clean program".
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jp1 said:
Lying or not it was still a rules violation. I guess it all depends on someones interpretation of a "clean program".
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yeah but not one that leads to sanctions. I was addressing this in his post

EVERY program in this country is only an NCAA investigation away from sanctions
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#65
#65
orange_peel said:
Both Pearl and Mike Hamilton need to be fired period. There are enough money people at UT to get an excellent replacement. UT basketball will be competitive after Pearl is gone.
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Yeah I always liked the Buzz years we were really competitive LOL. And also the Jerry Green and Kevin Oneil days, wow what great years LOL. They were truly better coaches than Pearl NOTTTT!!
 
#66
#66
Buddr said:
Yeah I always liked the Buzz years we were really competitive LOL. And also the Jerry Green and Kevin Oneil days, wow what great years LOL. They were truly better coaches than Pearl NOTTTT!!
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didn't Green go to 4 straight NCAA's with a sweet 16 mixed in?
 
#67
#67
utvolpj said:
didn't Green go to 4 straight NCAA's with a sweet 16 mixed in?
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To me Jerry's problem seemed to be, he would just roll the ball out on the court and from then on there would be no coaching. It was just a let them play attitude, just think what he may have done if he decided to coach a little.
 
#68
#68
Volstylexx said:
I've seen a lot on the forum tossing around Mike Anderson as a top choice for TN if BP leaves, get fired.

Someone please tell me why we would even want Mike Anderson? Missouri fans are fuming over their end of season collapse. When was the last time Missouri won a NC?

Mike Anderson's 2007 Team - 18-12 (7-9)Conf.
Mike Anderson's 2008 Team - 16-16 (6-10) Conf.
Mike Anderson's 2009 Team - 31-7 (12-4) Conf.
Mike Anderson's 2010 Team - 23-11 (10-6) Conf.
Mike Anderson's 2011 Team - 23-10 (8-8) Conf.

I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. Why ditch Pearl for someone worse? Would be a step backwards in my opinion.
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No way this guy leaves Mizzou for UT...Arkansas MAYBE but for some reason some of the disillusioned UT basketball fans think that We can just run out and grab anybody We want as a basketball coach when in reality we will be lucky to hire someone who even has a decent winning record....We aren't Kentucky or Duke or UNC when it comes to basketball...It will be sad if Pearl is forced to resign or is fired because UT basketball will return back to what it was before him....Not much to brag about :no:
 
#69
#69
VOLnMiami said:
No way this guy leaves Mizzou for UT...Arkansas MAYBE but for some reason some of the disillusioned UT basketball fans think that We can just run out and grab anybody We want as a basketball coach when in reality we will be lucky to hire someone who even has a decent winning record....We aren't Kentucky or Duke or UNC when it comes to basketball...It will be sad if Pearl is forced to resign or is fired because UT basketball will return back to what it was before him....Not much to brag about :no:
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Pathetic. Why don't we just cancel the basketball program while Pearl is suspended?
 
#70
#70
VOLnMiami said:
No way this guy leaves Mizzou for UT...Arkansas MAYBE but for some reason some of the disillusioned UT basketball fans think that We can just run out and grab anybody We want as a basketball coach when in reality we will be lucky to hire someone who even has a decent winning record....We aren't Kentucky or Duke or UNC when it comes to basketball...It will be sad if Pearl is forced to resign or is fired because UT basketball will return back to what it was before him....Not much to brag about :no:
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Another totally clueless fan. There was plenty to brag about from the mid 60s to mid 80s. In fact, UT's best teams were from the 70s. Yes, the Ernie and Bernie teams were better than ANY of the teams Pearl has coached. Sorry. I've seen them both. Mears was a better coach than Pearl too!
 
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#71
#71
shortgameVol said:
Another totally clueless fan. There was plenty to brag about from the mid 60s to mid 80s. In fact, UT's best teams were from the 70s. Yes, the Ernie and Bernie teams were better than ANY of the teams Pearl has coached. Sorry. I've seen them both. Mears was a better coach than Pearl too!
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Granted, it was a different era, but none of those teams advanced as far in the tourney as Pearl did last year, nor did they ever manage to reach a #1 ranking in the polls. You're right though, to totally dismiss UT's hoops history is ignorant. We did go through a long stretch though where there was little, if anything to get excited about.
 
#72
#72
shortgameVol said:
Another totally clueless fan. There was plenty to brag about from the mid 60s to mid 80s. In fact, UT's best teams were from the 70s. Yes, the Ernie and Bernie teams were better than ANY of the teams Pearl has coached. Sorry. I've seen them both. Mears was a better coach than Pearl too!
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I agree from what I hear ut was really good during that era but what stands out to me the most is you are talking about 30 to 45 years ago. Thats a helluva long time ago in my book.
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