Why the hell didnt we call a time out????

#28
#28
Not like there was a reach in that should have been called or anything.
 
#29
#29
Not calling the TO is the much smarter play than thinking you get a shot out of set play from a timeout. It's far easier to stop an offensive set out of a timeout. There's so many things you can do from a defensive standpoint to disrupt the offense in a short period of time.

If you don't believe me, watch some basketball. Let me know how many times an offense wins the game after a timeout. Then, watch how many times the last minute winner is won on a play in the flow of the game. One will be significantly higher than the other.
 
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#30
#30
Trae did not use the screen, but tried to split the defenders. Poor decision on his part. Maymon was set. Team played hard, but rebounding was a glaring weakness. How long is Coach going to continue playing McBee. He has no floor speed an is a liability on defense against athletic teams.
 
#31
#31
Not calling the TO is the much smarter play than thinking you get a shot out of set play from a timeout. It's far easier to stop an offensive set out of a timeout. There's so many things you can do from a defensive standpoint to disrupt the offense in a short period of time.

If you don't believe me, watch some basketball. Let me know how many times an offense wins the game after a timeout. Then, watch how many times the last minute winner is won on a play in the flow of the game. One will be significantly higher than the other.

That is actually a pretty good point, is anyone actually expecting Martin to be able to out scheme Jamie dixon on the final possession? Probably not and that is not a shot a Martin
 
#32
#32
Not calling the TO is the much smarter play than thinking you get a shot out of set play from a timeout. It's far easier to stop an offensive set out of a timeout. There's so many things you can do from a defensive standpoint to disrupt the offense in a short period of time.

If you don't believe me, watch some basketball. Let me know how many times an offense wins the game after a timeout. Then, watch how many times the last minute winner is won on a play in the flow of the game. One will be significantly higher than the other.

NO if we ran that maymon play we did on memphis that would have been a better shot and look then Golden running up the court and turning the ball over.
 
#33
#33
NO if we ran that maymon play we did on memphis that would have been a better shot and look then Golden running up the court and turning the ball over.

Maymon was unstoppable in the Memphis game. he was in this game.
 
#34
#34
Not calling the TO is the much smarter play than thinking you get a shot out of set play from a timeout. It's far easier to stop an offensive set out of a timeout. There's so many things you can do from a defensive standpoint to disrupt the offense in a short period of time.

If you don't believe me, watch some basketball. Let me know how many times an offense wins the game after a timeout. Then, watch how many times the last minute winner is won on a play in the flow of the game. One will be significantly higher than the other.
Agreed, but you may want somebody to bring it down the court who doesn't turn it over or make a boneheaded play in the clutch every time
 
#35
#35
NO if we ran that maymon play we did on memphis that would have been a better shot and look then Golden running up the court and turning the ball over.

Or, the Maymon play in the 1st OT that resulted in a TO, or the same in the 2nd OT. Timeouts rarely work and most coaches worth their salt won't call them in that situation unless they see the play not developing to their liking.

Ask Bob Knight, he had the same philosophy.
 
#36
#36
Or, the Maymon play in the 1st OT that resulted in a TO, or the same in the 2nd OT. Timeouts rarely work and most coaches worth their salt won't call them in that situation unless they see the play not developing to their liking.

Ask Bob Knight, he had the same philosophy.

And that one developed well
 
#38
#38
And that one developed well

What one? The Maymon bucket? Yeah, it works every once in a while, but, take note of how many times a basket is scored late off a timeout. It's much less often than times teams score without calling timeout.
 
#40
#40
What one? The Maymon bucket? Yeah, it works every once in a while, but, take note of how many times a basket is scored late off a timeout. It's much less often than times teams score without calling timeout.

Understood, but put it in somebody's hands besides Goldens, how many turnovers in the clutch is it going to take to get it!!
 
#41
#41
And that one developed well

Your hero never called timeouts in those situations, and we spent all last year chucking halfcourt shots at the end of ball games. I must have missed where you were *****ing about it then.
 
#42
#42
Your hero never called timeouts in those situations, and we spent all last year chucking halfcourt shots at the end of ball games. I must have missed where you were *****ing about it then.

I could care less who the coach is, but i would hope whoever it is could figure out not to have the ball in the same players hand that turns it over at crunch time, time after time
 
#43
#43
You realize that guy who "turns it over in crunch time" had just hit a big 3 to bring us within a bucket, right? And, who else is going to bring the ball up the court? McRae? Tatum? Maymon?
 
#44
#44
Not calling timeouts in those situations is a coach martin philosophy, get use to it folks. Don't treat it as one of those Dooley late game mental lapses

What was it Einstein said described someone who does
the same thing over and over again and keeps expecting
different results.
 
#45
#45
What was it Einstein said described someone who does
the same thing over and over again and keeps expecting
different results.

You mean the one other close game we played is an example of "over and over"?

People need to chill. It's December and we've played some tough games and are learning how to play in a new system. We won't play Duke and Pitt every game, so wins will come. And, we certainly shouldn't pitch a fit that Martin hasn't produced a top 20 team within three weeks.
 
#46
#46
You mean the one other close game we played is an example of "over and over"?

People need to chill. It's December and we've played some tough games and are learning how to play in a new system. We won't play Duke and Pitt every game, so wins will come. And, we certainly shouldn't pitch a fit that Martin hasn't produced a top 20 team within three weeks.

I hope your right, i think a couple of wins will make everybody feel better, me included
 
#47
#47
You realize that guy who "turns it over in crunch time" had just hit a big 3 to bring us within a bucket, right? And, who else is going to bring the ball up the court? McRae? Tatum? Maymon?

Fact is you can't turn the ball over or get tied up on the last pos. when you have a chance to tie or win the game, dish the ball, throw one up do something to give us a chance to win
 
#48
#48
yea... FYI Martin, the whole "not gonna call a timeout at the end of the game" thing ISN'T working.

CALL A TIMEOUT!
 
#49
#49
Golden should not have pulled up. He should have taken it to the goal. He acted like he wanted to shoot a 3 and we only needed 2 to tie and send it to overtime.
 
#50
#50
yea... FYI Martin, the whole "not gonna call a timeout at the end of the game" thing ISN'T working.

CALL A TIMEOUT!

And, why do you think calling a timeout would've resulted in a higher percentage chance of succeeding there? If we are in the same position again, I hope the same call is made.
 

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