Why the hell didnt we call a time out????

#51
#51
First, I don't think Martin has a philosophy about not calling timeouts. That was Pearl. Martin proved against Memphis that he would call timeouts and set up plays.

Second, I like taking a timeout here. If you got a guy that has played PG for a couple years or is a natural guy coming out of High School, then fine, turn him loose and take your chances. However, Golden is not that guy, he is still learning to play the point. Get it into front court, call time out, and come up with a play to get a good look.

If nothing else, when you look up and see Maymonn coming up the court right next to Golden, you have to understand that he is not going to be able to set the ball screen at the top of the key like you talked about in the previous timeout. You need to take a timeout there.
 
#52
#52
zansdad said:
First, I don't think Martin has a philosophy about not calling timeouts. That was Pearl. Martin proved against Memphis that he would call timeouts and set up plays.

Second, I like taking a timeout here. If you got a guy that has played PG for a couple years or is a natural guy coming out of High School, then fine, turn him loose and take your chances. However, Golden is not that guy, he is still learning to play the point. Get it into front court, call time out, and come up with a play to get a good look.

If nothing else, when you look up and see Maymonn coming up the court right next to Golden, you have to understand that he is not going to be able to set the ball screen at the top of the key like you talked about in the previous timeout. You need to take a timeout there.
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You can't talk reason with the slurpers because they will
not admit to coaching mistakes. They just make different
excuses after each loss. This week it is blamed on rotation, yet, kids learn rotation at an early age without a coach. If you don't rotate even in pick up games the other players chew you out. It has to do with coaching
them to either stop or change what they are doing that
hurts the team. GBO
 
#53
#53
How many times does one have to say it? Argue if you didn't like the play. But stop whining about not calling a TO. A play was called and all 5 guys knew what the play was. You don't have to call a damn TO to call a play.
 
#54
#54
So many people have no clue about basketball here.

Stop complaining about the lack of a time out being called. If you want to blame someone, blame Golden for pulling up at the three point line. The play looked like a screen, the player from Pitt hedge the screen and Golden couldn't drive like he wanted. Then he tries and just pull it up for a three, the Pitt guy made a great play and grabbed the ball instead.

I can guarantee you the play was called for two. Pick and roll, sealing off Goldens defender for a drive to the basket. Any help defense and there was a dump off option to Maymon. The player hedged, Maymon didn't react and kept trying to screen, Golden didn't react and tried to jack up a three. Pitt guy reacted and grabbed the ball. Two wrongs, one right. Guess you know which one worked.
 
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#56
#56
When it comes to basic coaching philosophies, I think I'm going to put my trust into an experienced Div. 1 coach and former player instead of the VN armchair crowd. Go ahead and call me a slurper... I don't care. Some of y'all need to get over yourselves. You likely have have ZERO coaching experience and likely little to no playing experience at such a level. It's laughable, really.
 
#57
#57
pl3 said:
How many times does one have to say it? Argue if you didn't like the play. But stop whining about not calling a TO. A play was called and all 5 guys knew what the play was. You don't have to call a damn TO to call a play.
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greatest play EV3R too!!
 
#58
#58
Unimane said:
And, why do you think calling a timeout would've resulted in a higher percentage chance of succeeding there? If we are in the same position again, I hope the same call is made.
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how many times have we succeeded with not calling a timeout? zero. I believe there have been 3 times where it may or may not have helped us.
 
#59
#59
Quite frankly, I'm surprised we ever score without calling a timeout, consider how, apparently, important it is to the success of a play.
 
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THE SOZ said:
That was the stupidest play to end the game....get your ****ing ass past half court and call a damn time out and draw a freaking play up. The misery continues in knoxville in all sport. WILL THIS ****ING YEAR END ALL READY. :banghead2::banghead2::banghead2::banghead2::realmad::realmad:
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O no, not another, "I can coach better than he can" threads!
 
#61
#61
UT's#1Fan said:
how many times have we succeeded with not calling a timeout? zero. I believe there have been 3 times where it may or may not have helped us.
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Three times? We've only had two close games. What are you talking about?

Bottom line, calling a TO at that point is not the correct decision. You call a play and the chance of the success of that play is greater if you don't allow the defense to set up out of a TO. It's Coaching 101.
 
#62
#62
By the way, last night in the Marquette-Washington game, Marquette hit the game winning shot after not calling a timeout. In Washington's confusion, they left a Marquette player wide open in the corner and Marquette even had an easy dump off for a layup had the guy noticed. No way they get that off a timeout situation.
 
#63
#63
Unimane said:
By the way, last night in the Marquette-Washington game, Marquette hit the game winning shot after not calling a timeout. In Washington's confusion, they left a Marquette player wide open in the corner and Marquette even had an easy dump off for a layup had the guy noticed. No way they get that off a timeout situation.
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You can cherry pick all you want. It still doesn't change the fact that it doesn't work for us. Every coach needs to evaluate what his players limitations are.
 
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the soz said:
that was the stupidest play to end the game....get your ****ing ass past half court and call a damn time out and draw a freaking play up. The misery continues in knoxville in all sport. Will this ****ing year end all ready. :banghead2::banghead2::banghead2::banghead2::realmad::realmad:
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you tell them coach. You must be a retired or fired coach to know exactly what to do. If not, shut up. If so , get another job.
 
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#65
#65
knowthevols said:
You can cherry pick all you want. It still doesn't change the fact that it doesn't work for us. Every coach needs to evaluate what his players limitations are.
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Cherry pick? It was the next close game I saw. There's no need to cherry pick because it happens all the time. This was just another example of why you do it.

"It doesn't work for us" because Aston Gibbs made a good play is baloney. It'll definitely work more often than it doesn't.
 
#66
#66
Not calling a timeout works, but only if your players know what to do. Maymen was way too late to try and set a pick. The pick should have been near the half court line to allow Trae to blow by the big man and put us in a 4 on 3 offensive advantage going to the basket. You would have two defensive guys at your back giving you the advantage for the shot and possibly the rebound. If you don't teach it though then you need a time out to set a play up.
 
#67
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Volhoops said:
Not calling a timeout works, but only if your players know what to do. Maymen was way too late to try and set a pick. The pick should have been near the half court line to allow Trae to blow by the big man and put us in a 4 on 3 offensive advantage going to the basket. You would have two defensive guys at your back giving you the advantage for the shot and possibly the rebound. If you don't teach it though then you need a time out to set a play up.
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Ditto
 
#69
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Volhoops said:
Not calling a timeout works, but only if your players know what to do. Maymen was way too late to try and set a pick. The pick should have been near the half court line to allow Trae to blow by the big man and put us in a 4 on 3 offensive advantage going to the basket. You would have two defensive guys at your back giving you the advantage for the shot and possibly the rebound. If you don't teach it though then you need a time out to set a play up.
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It's a damn offensive play. Of course you've taught it. And, why would you want a coach to call a timeout in order to get a play together within a couple of minutes when you don't trust him to do so in the months of practice prior to the game?
 
#74
#74
Hmmmm, Indiana calls a TO down 1 and gets a turnover with 5 seconds left. They have no timeouts and get an open look on a 3 at the buzzer. Amazing.
 
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