Why the hell should America listen to the right

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DAVOL

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On this election when eight years ago the right profoundly told us in the voting booth that GWB was a hell of alot better than Mccain.:peace2:
 
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DAVOL said:
On this election when eight years ago the right profoundly told us in the voting booth that GWB was a hell of alot better than Mccain.:peace2:
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That was when Mccain was a liberal. He is a conservative now.

I'm curious to how people will react, if he wins, and goes back to his liberal ways? If he doesn't need the base to get elected don't you think he will go back to what he truly believes in? What happened to the John Mccain that Ann Coulter said she would not vote for and the Mccain that Rush Limbaugh spent so much time dogging out not too long ago? Will he re-appear or is he sold on being more conservative the rest of his life?
 
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DAVOL said:
On this election when eight years ago the right profoundly told us in the voting booth that GWB was a hell of alot better than Mccain.:peace2:
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actually, it was Gore GWB was running against on "this election night eight years ago".

McCain dropped out of the 2000 Primary race on March 10th when it was obvious he wasn't going to win enough delegates to the convention. Maybe dirty tricks were involved, maybe they weren't, but I doubt what is rumored to have happened in SC would have changed the outcome.
 
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615 Vol said:
That was when Mccain was a liberal. He is a conservative now.

I'm curious to how people will react, if he wins, and goes back to his liberal ways? If he doesn't need the base to get elected don't you think he will go back to what he truly believes in? What happened to the John Mccain that Ann Coulter said she would not vote for and the Mccain that Rush Limbaugh spent so much time dogging out not too long ago? Will he re-appear or is he sold on being more conservative the rest of his life?
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Seemed to me like he switched between doing things his own way and just doing what the party told him to. (Personally, i liked the former :))
 
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MG1968 said:
actually, it was Gore GWB was running against on "this election night eight years ago".

McCain dropped out of the 2000 Primary race on March 10th when it was obvious he wasn't going to win enough delegates to the convention. Maybe dirty tricks were involved, maybe they weren't, but I doubt what is rumored to have happened in SC would have changed the outcome.
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Still in 2000 the right in their primaries spoke loud and clear that Bush was heads and shoulders better than Mccain it was'nt even remotely close.
 
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MG1968 said:
actually, it was Gore GWB was running against on "this election night eight years ago".

McCain dropped out of the 2000 Primary race on March 10th when it was obvious he wasn't going to win enough delegates to the convention. Maybe dirty tricks were involved, maybe they weren't, but I doubt what is rumored to have happened in SC would have changed the outcome.
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maybe he meant when they told us in the 2000 primaries elections that Bush was better than McCain :dunno:
 
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DAVOL said:
Still in 2000 the right in their primaries spoke loud and clear that Bush was heads and shoulders better than Mccain it was'nt even remotely close.
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just like Gore was heads and shoulders better than anybody else the dems had to offer? The VP of a very popular President can't even win his home state?

Or 2004, was Kerry the best choice the democrats could come up with? Some stiff, effete, northeastern liberal establishment jackass?

If you ask me, the American people spoke clearly in 2000 and 2004 and it wasn't just the right. Maybe this year will be different and enough people want to introduce Euro-style socialism to the US and BO will win.
 
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MG1968 said:
just like Gore was heads and shoulders better than anybody else the dems had to offer? The VP of a very popular President can't even win his home state?

Or 2004, was Kerry the best choice the democrats could come up with? Some stiff, effete, northeastern liberal establishment jackass?

If you ask me, the American people spoke clearly in 2000 and 2004 and it wasn't just the right. Maybe this year will be different and enough people want to introduce Euro-style socialism to the US and BO will win.
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Maybe you should check your history books on the 2000 election cause America did not speak loud and clear for either one plus more Americans cast their vote for GORE or have you forgotten.:thumbsup:
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm
 
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nah, I haven't forgotten Gore won the popular vote so point taken, but he didn't win the Electoral vote, which is what matters when electing a President.
 
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615 Vol said:
That was when Mccain was a liberal. He is a conservative now.
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You can't be serious. A conservative now? Are we talking about the same McCain? The only person in the entire world who believes that McCain is a conservative is McCain himself. He just voted in favor of spending $850B on a $700B bailout package.

McCain is anything but a conservative, but he knows that he has to get the support conservatives if he is going to have any chance of beating B. Hussein Obama. As such, you see McCain running around touting his "conservative principles."

I think it's kind of cute, honestly. Sort of like when Tennessee players get all pumped up after they make a big hit or tackle when they are on the dump side of a 30-6 game with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter. It may feel good, but it doesn't matter a bit.

If McCain wins the election, he will do exactly what he has always done, which is to reach across the aisle and "get things done" by giving into the demands of asses.
 
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AgentOrange007 said:
You can't be serious. A conservative now? Are we talking about the same McCain? The only person in the entire world who believes that McCain is a conservative is McCain himself. He just voted in favor of spending $850B on a $700B bailout package.

McCain is anything but a conservative, but he knows that he has to get the support conservatives if he is going to have any chance of beating B. Hussein Obama. As such, you see McCain running around touting his "conservative principles."

I think it's kind of cute, honestly. Sort of like when Tennessee players get all pumped up after they make a big hit or tackle when they are on the dump side of a 30-6 game with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter. It may feel good, but it doesn't matter a bit.

If McCain wins the election, he will do exactly what he has always done, which is to reach across the aisle and "get things done" by giving into the demands of asses.
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That sorta explains what I was saying there. Thanks.
 
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Here's what's funny. I don't like McCain and Bush hasn't been good, but Bush won twice and I think McCain will probably win despite what all of the left biased polls are showing. If McCain does win, it should be a kick square in the nuts to democrats. It will just show how far out there the presidential candidates have been for the democrats and just how out of touch with the American people they really are. Honestly, I didn't think Bush had a chance on re-election. I sure didn't think a republican would win after Bush either. But if McCain wins, the democrats need to remove their heads out of their as..... tails and open their eyes.
 
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MG1968 said:
just like Gore was heads and shoulders better than anybody else the dems had to offer? The VP of a very popular President can't even win his home state?

Or 2004, was Kerry the best choice the democrats could come up with? Some stiff, effete, northeastern liberal establishment jackass?

If you ask me, the American people spoke clearly in 2000 and 2004 and it wasn't just the right. Maybe this year will be different and enough people want to introduce Euro-style socialism to the US and BO will win.
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Democrats fault for not offering anybody better... I know there are liberal idiots a-plenty nationwide, but the fact that GWB almost got beat by a guy like Gore speaks volumes. Same thing with Kerry. Dude had nothing going for him, and didn't get beat by that much.

I disagree with a lot of what the Republican party does, and Democrats are mostly a bunch of inept self-interested a-holes. I hate having to vote.
 
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They shouldn't.

Look if you think mixing religion and money is a bad ideal.You are not the first.You see the direct results today can you say 700,000,000,000 $$$$$$.:realmad:
 
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How much of the increase from 700 billion to 850 billion is from the tax breaks they wrote in? They counted those breaks as "cost" since they were planning on seeing that money this year and now won't.....what was in the extra 150 billion?
 
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DAVOL said:
On this election when eight years ago the right profoundly told us in the voting booth that GWB was a hell of alot better than Mccain.:peace2:
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:hi:I would never be so nieve to even consider that you or any of your likeminded ilk would ever concern yourselves with anything a Republican had to say about any issue. However I do think that you Leftists might occassionally listen to one of your own Leftwing Socialist Leaders, Joseph "here we come to save the day" Biden.:superman:

It was only this summer when he warned you, I and the nation that Barrack Hussein Obama was not prepared to be Commander and Chief. Did you pay attention then? Probably not! Does it matter to you and yours? Probably not?:horse:

In case you haven't noticed Joseph Biden, you know, he is the one saying Obama is unqualified, is your party's candidate for Vice President.:tease2: That is the case if Biden isn't plagerizing the records of the Democratic National Convention.
 
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KYVolFan said:
Barrack Hussein Obama
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That.

That right there.


That pisses me off more than anything that the right wing neo-cons do most. Using Obama's middle name as some kind of insult, is a right tactic, that I find offensive, and having overtones of being racist towards anybody of Muslim faith.
 
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TennTradition said:
How much of the increase from 700 billion to 850 billion is from the tax breaks they wrote in? They counted those breaks as "cost" since they were planning on seeing that money this year and now won't.....what was in the extra 150 billion?
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I'm sure it was, but I doubt anyone could tell you exactly how much of the extra was related to tax credits. I doubt anyone has actually read the entire bill start to finish.

I figure any entity that considers a reduction in the rate of growth a "cut," would definitely see a tax credit as a cost. That's why all those "tax breaks to the oil companies" are costing us billions every year. :ill_h4h:

Here is a link to some of the choicest tax credits in the bailout bill. My favorite is the rebate back to Purteo Rico and the VI for rum. Now I can have my free house, drink my rum, and support the fine people of the carribbean. Awesome!

Taxpayers for Common Sense
 
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nickknx865 said:
That.

That right there.


That pisses me off more than anything that the right wing neo-cons do most. Using Obama's middle name as some kind of insult, is a right tactic, that I find offensive, and having overtones of being racist towards anybody of Muslim faith.
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Having a prejudice toward Muslims is not a form of racism. Besides, I think the intent is to link Obama to a completely anti-American nutjob leader.
 
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nickknx865 said:
That.

That right there.


That pisses me off more than anything that the right wing neo-cons do most. Using Obama's middle name as some kind of insult, is a right tactic, that I find offensive, and having overtones of being racist towards anybody of Muslim faith.
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:shades:We are definitely opposites politically my friend, but a Neocon I am not. Birth Date =1944. I have come to respect Neocons about as much as you have your Putrefactiveliberal friends.:alien: Putrefactiveliberalism has been defined elsewhere in the politics forum but it is closely associated with Neocommunism, Neosocialism and other pseudo and near normals that seen to populate and rule your political party. :alien::alien::alien:
I didn't give Barrack Hussein Obama his three arabic/islamic names my friend, his mother and father did but I promise to not get upset by you being ashamed of their name selections. As I understand it, B.H.O was born in to an Atheist/Islamic Family and raised in Islamic schools during his early childhood.
 
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milohimself said:
Democrats fault for not offering anybody better... I know there are liberal idiots a-plenty nationwide, but the fact that GWB almost got beat by a guy like Gore speaks volumes. Same thing with Kerry. Dude had nothing going for him, and didn't get beat by that much.

I disagree with a lot of what the Republican party does, and Democrats are mostly a bunch of inept self-interested a-holes. I hate having to vote.
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i can agree with most of your post milo. I just want one election where I get to vote for someone I can see doing a great job as President. Instead I have to vote for who I think will screw up the least. 8 years ago, it was Bush, 4 years ago it tragically was still Bush. This year it is McCain (who I initially thought was the best of the possible choices 8 years ago).
 
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DAVOL said:
On this election when eight years ago the right profoundly told us in the voting booth that GWB was a hell of alot better than Mccain.:peace2:
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I don't remember the October 2000 elections :)

Using your logic, we certainly shouldn't listen to the left - the party that has put forward Gore (no choice since he was VP), Kerry (a complete tool), Pelosi and Reid (two complete political hacks). Now they are giving us a first term Senator with less experience than any presidential candidate ever in modern history.

Yes, by all means we should listen to the left.:crazy:
 
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