Why we need to support Martin

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Why not support the team, not showing up is not the way to send a msg regarding the coach.

All it does is makes us look bad as a fan base. Not attending games we will screw ourselves.

Not supporting the team sends the wrong statement. The players have made great sacrifices of time, blood, and sweat for the university and the fans not to turn out in support of them is wrong.

The AD or the University may or may not have supported the players by not properly evaluated the coach and staff, but the jury is still out on this and we will not know anything until the end of the season.

Not supporting this team by attendance is High School crap and I am glad to see that not all students or the majority of the fan base is not buying into this tactic.

You want to change something then email, write, or call every prominent donor, AD, President in a group with the same unified msg until you are blue in the face.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
I talked to Pearl's daughter last night and she said he would take the job...see how easy it is to make stuff up.
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It is easy to make stuff up. But I also go to school and am friends with his youngest son so I have talked about this with him MULTIPLE times.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Why not support the team, not showing up is not the way to send a msg regarding the coach.

All it does is makes us look bad as a fan base. Not attending games we will screw ourselves.

Not supporting the team sends the wrong statement. The players have made great sacrifices of time, blood, and sweat for the university and the fans not to turn out in support of them is wrong.

The AD or the University may or may not have supported the players by not properly evaluated the coach and staff, but the jury is still out on this and we will not know anything until the end of the season.

Not supporting this team by attendance is High School crap and I am glad to see that not all students or the majority of the fan base is not buying into this tactic.

You want to change something then email, write, or call every prominent donor, AD, President in a group with the same unified msg until you are blue in the face.
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I agree that would be the ideal way to foster change but in this world that will be about as effective as the petition. The only thing the power brokers at UT look at are the numbers at the bottom of the spreadsheet. The only criteria that is looked at is how keeping him vs firing him impacts the bottom line. He could go 4-26 and they'd keep him if the attendance was strong. I'm not advocating staying away, but stating my opinion of what moves the decision makers.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I agree that would be the ideal way to foster change but in this world that will be about as effective as the petition. The only thing the power brokers at UT look at are the numbers at the bottom of the spreadsheet. The only criteria that is looked at is how keeping him vs firing him impacts the bottom line. He could go 4-26 and they'd keep him if the attendance was strong. I'm not advocating staying away, but stating my opinion of what moves the decision makers.
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The thing that gets me is you say that staying away will help the most, but people (not necessarily saying you, cause I don't feel like digging) come on here completely trashing the coach and many times the players. What's the point of all that if just simply not showing up is all it takes?
 
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whobethis16 said:
The thing that gets me is you say that staying away will help the most, but people (not necessarily saying you, cause I don't feel like digging) come on here completely trashing the coach and many times the players. What's the point of all that if just simply not showing up is all it takes?
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While I've expressed my displeasure with Coach Cuonzo I've never trashed a player. The coaches are paid where the players are not. I don't think Cuonzo is the long term solution for our Vols. I think if he survives this year he'll be here a maximum of two more years. That's all conjecture and I'm sure others have a difference of opinion.

As to discussions here, it has no bearing on what happens over on the hill. Volnation is a place to discuss the good and the bad, hopefully respectfully. It gives fans a place to celebrate the good things and complain about the bad things. One things for sure we all can agree on..... we want the Vols to succeed at the highest of levels. We just have differences of opinions on the best routes to get us there.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I agree that would be the ideal way to foster change but in this world that will be about as effective as the petition. The only thing the power brokers at UT look at are the numbers at the bottom of the spreadsheet. The only criteria that is looked at is how keeping him vs firing him impacts the bottom line. He could go 4-26 and they'd keep him if the attendance was strong. I'm not advocating staying away, but stating my opinion of what moves the decision makers.
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I hear you and agree....the petition is not dead but I believe it generated enough awareness that they (AD) could not avoid. The one thing written was about scheduled game times which is BS, but they will excuse anything the can like attendance.

One thing they cannot control is the amount of mail hitting their offices. Or emails or phone call. The petition drew attention of national media so that was good.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
While I've expressed my displeasure with Coach Cuonzo I've never trashed a player. The coaches are paid where the players are not. I don't think Cuonzo is the long term solution for our Vols. I think if he survives this year he'll be here a maximum of two more years. That's all conjecture and I'm sure others have a difference of opinion.

As to discussions here, it has no bearing on what happens over on the hill. Volnation is a place to discuss the good and the bad, hopefully respectfully. It gives fans a place to celebrate the good things and complain about the bad things. One things for sure we all can agree on..... we want the Vols to succeed at the highest of levels. We just have differences of opinions on the best routes to get us there.
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I agree with what you are saying but their are different level of observation, expertise and social graces that make it a point to disagree in argument with another because they have to control everything.the few times the are correct about something they bully or beat their chest. I can handle it but others can't and it turns into a drama type event.....
 
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HBCButch said:
Second point. They made the NCAAT but they didn't deserve it. I think they made it because Tobias was on the team and it was media related. Their record did not deserve it and Cuonzo has done better than that his first, second and soon to be third year. 9-9 in the SEC??? 8-8 to finish the year??? Even when your boy had 31 wins and won the SEC outright he didn't win the SECT. I know there's a jinx on but if he cant do it with 31 wins I want someone else who can. ******n GA won the SECT the year we had 31 freakin wins.
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19 wins vs Division 1, same as we have this year. But that team had 8 wins over NCAA tournament teams and finished with the #4 SoS in the nation.

Does this team deserve to be in? It has 19 division 1 wins, but has only played 7 games against likely NCAA teams and only has 2 wins vs them.

Also, I'd love to win the SECT because I'd love to win every game. But as long as we're winning, getting in the NCAAs and winning games there, that''s all that matters. The Vols did win the SEC Championship under Pearl. It's not the "regular season" title. It's the SEC Championship. The tournament is completely separate from it. There was a lot of years with no tourney but there was an SEC champion every season.
 
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