Will Chandler be back for ‘22-‘23 season!

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Prayivm3rcy said:
Ja Morant stayed for another year which turned out to be the right decision. I know Chandler looks up to him so maybe he might consider that a viable option
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Ja Morant is the exception to the rule. Ja has athleticism that is otherworldly and he needed the extra year of seasoning for his game to catch up to his athletic ability. There is no scenario where KC comes back next year and is the #2 pick overall because he does not have the freakish type of athletic ability that Ja has.

The best case scenario for KC is that he is a late lottery pick next year. It doesn't make sense for KC to come back from a $$$ perspective if he gets a first round guarantee.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Ja Morant is the exception to the rule. Ja has athleticism that is otherworldly and he needed the extra year of seasoning for his game to catch up to his athletic ability. There is no scenario where KC comes back next year and is the #2 pick overall because he does not have the freakish type of athletic ability that Ja has.

The best case scenario for KC is that he is a late lottery pick next year. It doesn't make sense for KC to come back from a $$$ perspective if he gets a first round guarantee.
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To go from 30 this year to 15 next year is a pretty significant money difference, then add in potential NIL package if he returns and it definitely could make sense.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
To go from 30 this year to 15 next year is a pretty significant money difference, then add in potential NIL package if he returns and it definitely could make sense.
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Here is my rationale.

KC leaves this year and the Memphis Grizzlies (a rumored choice) picks him with the draft pick they get from Utah (let's say 24). He will make $6MM guaranteed over next 3 years and if his 4th year option is extended about $9.7MM over the next 4 years. He will then be eligible for his second contract

Let's say KC waits and is drafted late lottery (12), he will make $10.3M over the next 4 years (0, 3.3, 3.4, 3.6) and have to wait another year for his second contract. He will make $6.7MM guaranteed over next 3 years in this scenario.

I did exclude NIL since he can earn endorsement money as a pro as well.

The math does change if he does not get a first round guarantee though and at that point, returning may make more sense.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Here is my rationale.

KC leaves this year and the Memphis Grizzlies (a rumored choice) picks him with the draft pick they get from Utah (let's say 24). He will make $6MM guaranteed over next 3 years and if his 4th year option is extended about $9.7MM over the next 4 years. He will then be eligible for his second contract

Let's say KC waits and is drafted late lottery (12), he will make $10.3M over the next 4 years (0, 3.3, 3.4, 3.6) and have to wait another year for his second contract. He will make $6.7MM guaranteed over next 3 years in this scenario.

I did exclude NIL since he can earn endorsement money as a pro as well.

The math does change if he does not get a first round guarantee though and at that point, returning may make more sense.
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So he makes more by returning and getting NIL deal in that scenario, which was my point. I also stated pick #30, yea if he’s getting guaranteed pick 25 he should go, really any 1st round guarantee and he should probably go, but a case can definitely be made at the tail end of 1st round as to why he might consider/would make sense to consider a return.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So he makes more by returning and getting NIL deal in that scenario, which was my point. I also stated pick #30, yea if he’s getting guaranteed pick 25 he should go, really any 1st round guarantee and he should probably go, but a case can definitely be made at the tail end of 1st round as to why he might consider/would make sense to consider a return.
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He really does not make more since he delays the 2nd contract (usually the largest for a NBA player) by a year. If he goes from 25 to 12, that is likely the "best case" scenario for him and even then, he is making only marginally more $$$.

If he does not get a first round guarantee, then yes, your math makes sense.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
He really does not make more since he delays the 2nd contract (usually the largest for a NBA player) by a year. If he goes from 25 to 12, that is likely the "best case" scenario for him and even then, he is making only marginally more $$$.

If he does not get a first round guarantee, then yes, your math makes sense.
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There’s also a difference in money from 24 to last pick of 1st round which would further widen the gap of money made. It’s a $2.5m difference from Pick #30 to Pick #20 over a 4 year total, then the NIL on top of it as well.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Is that a question or an exclamation? At this point nobody knows, I would assume he enters the draft to go through the combine while keeping his eligibility, gets his grade back and makes a decision.
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If he has a great tournament. Kiss him goodbye. If he’s smart he does exactly what you said.
 
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He doesn't look ready to me but I am thinking of what it took 20 years ago. Today they seem to draft based on a players potential ceiling. If Chandler is a lottery pick then there is really no question about what he will do. You have to take that guaranteed money.
 
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Before the year all of us were saying he was one and done. While he is talented, there's no doubt he would benefit from an extra year at Tennessee.

I think the smart thing to do is stay an extra year, get that NIL money and be a top 25 pick next season. Will he do that? None of us know, but it would workout for both parties involved.

Unless he has a breakout run during the tourney, I don't think he's a first round pick
 
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It so crazy how this draft process is done in the nba. Chandler will almost certainly be a top 25 draft pic just like the 2 we had last year. Yet none of them are even great college players yet. Bone, Williams, and scofield were all better basketball players.
If I were an nba executive I’d totally disregard highscool ratings (which are largely based on their measurements and potential) and rather I would just focus on their fame film. And based on that chandler would not be a top draft pic. He could be after next year.
 
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From what I've heard and read he would be the number 1 point guard taken in the draft. Don't know where that would be, but from everything I've seen this draft of pgs isn't very good
 
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Edwards arrival will add a variable to His decision, but if He does return ?! I'll go out on a limb and say next year's team will be the best in team history up to this point.
 
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Remember when we were having this conversation about Keon and Springer last year? He's gone. Would it be amazing if he came back? Yes. UT could make a legitimate national title run next year with everyone coming back except Fulk and Bailey (plus you get ORN and BJ), but.... no. It's not happening.
 
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I do not know if he will return or not. So far, he is not in a habit of calling me asking for advice. However, if he does? I will let you know.
 
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lutra said:
NBA generally drafts off potential anyway. Feel like a 19 year old prospect is more valuable than a 4 year start right away guy there. He may or may not be ready, but someone will want to take him and develop him just based off what he can turn into.
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No doubt.
 
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kxtop said:
While Chandler needs more learning time with Coach Barnes and Tennessee, it was widely reported when he signed with the VOLS that he was a “one and done”.
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Could have just posted your thoughts in one of the other 100 threads asking this
 
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DowntownVol said:
Remember when we were having this conversation about Keon and Springer last year? He's gone. Would it be amazing if he came back? Yes. UT could make a legitimate national title run next year with everyone coming back except Fulk and Bailey (plus you get ORN and BJ), but.... no. It's not happening.
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Agree...if Keon and Springer got picked, Chandler will certainly be up there. You give me a pick of the three and I'm picking Chandler, as far as upside. All 3 talented...just wish we could get at least 2 seasons from these players, but if they are going to get paid, can't blame them...you get the money when you can.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I'm going to continue assuming he's one and done until something glaringly obvious says he's not. Yes, he has concerns/question marks, but I don't personally see returning being more advantageous for him as of now.
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Agreed. He’s at the very least, on par with where Springer and Johnson were at the end of their freshman years. IMO, he’s a better player than both. May not be as athletic as Johnson and definitely needs to put in some work at the charity stripe, but a better overall player and by far, better on the defensive end.
GBO!!
 
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VolGee4 said:
It's been reported that he had 2 five figure trading card deals, and I believe he also has a deal with Alumni Hall.

My belief is that KC would get a substantial deal at UT (like Hooker and Tillman) if he stayed at UT, but is that enough? He would obviously make more if he was drafted in the first round.
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If he gets a decent NIL deal, maybe he will stay. It would really be nice to see him back.
 
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