Will Lady Vols Win The SEC Next Season?

[Coach Jumper]

The lack of pure shooters is one that I think can be corrected and will be if the emphasis has been put on improving there.

Shooters have to have "green light, under scrutiny" environment...Meaning they have to know they are given permission to take the shot, without ramifications or being called out, if it WAS a good decision. But they have to fall under a tighter scrutiny if it is a bad decision.

There are drills for developing your team's shooting. I can take my drill, "Bang Bang" and make ANY team a better shooting team. It is the shooters mental environment that needs to be addressed. If there is even an inkling of doubt, the shooter tenses up and that effects even the highest caliber player.

Our biggest issue has been Holly's belief that getting it into the post by any means necessary is the solution to victory.

Thank God this won't be a problem this year.


This would also help us beating the 2-3 we have to have someone to be able to step at the free throw line/high post and his that shot with consistency (they also must be willing to take that shot and not be told to look into the post when that shot is wide open).

A high-post (elbow) Point-Forward would cut a zone to pieces,. They would have to concentrate on the high post player and she could work the paint with movement, catch the entry-draw the defense and hit a mid-paint cutter, or backdoor, or shooter or she could shoot the elbow/or/drive strongside. It doesn't fall completely on the shot to break the zone.

Yes 3pt shooters are a necessity and a weapon. But then again, so is a "time out"

The defensive intensity in the Post starts with your Post player and for the Past 4 seasons we had one (and I am not knocking her) that was more concerned with controlling how many fouls she got instead of focusing on how many shots she could send in the stands (Block shots). When there is an anchor in the middle teams are less likely to come into the Paint.

With KK and CG we get smaller but tons more intimidating on would be drivers.

I am intrigued to see how the team plays without the feeling of entitlement or knowing that no one else will take their spot. We finally have a roster imo where every spot is up for grabs (or at least should be) and if you're slipping you could easily sit on the bench.

Competition is always better but when there is no competition you become complacent.

X 1,000....With a team like this one coming in, you have a whole team of could-be starters.

I'm willing to give Holly until the 2017 class (Rennia, Evina, KK, Annie) are seniors and if they haven't accomplished a Final Four then and the program looks like it is still stuck when it is then I will get back on board with a possible replacement.

I am atleast willing to give her that chance as I feel that class (2017) imo is truly her 1st recruiting class

No way. Last year she was given a perfect storm. (No off-season drama, great roster, top recruiting class, the entire staff was of her choosing and orchestration. And we went into a tail spin at our first loss....Time for CHW to catch up.

This year,
no off-season drama,
Strong roster full of quality returners,
new crop of McD AA's,
no change in staff....
This is two back to back years of perfect storm starts.
If we under-achieve this year, then there is only one constant left!

 

[mlindsay]

No way. Last year she was given a perfect storm. (No off-season drama, great roster, top recruiting class, the entire staff was of her choosing and orchestration. And we went into a tail spin at our first loss....Time for CHW to catch up.

This year,
no off-season drama,
Strong roster full of quality returners,
new crop of McD AA's,
no change in staff....
This is two back to back years of perfect storm starts.
If we under-achieve this year, then there is only one constant left!

I agree with you but my question is what is under-achieve.

Folk have to have realistic expectations. Based on what the other teams have are we a Final 4 team? We have talent but are we going to be better than ND, Oregon, Baylor, and UConn (even with the losses of Gabby, Nurse, and Stevens)

We have the pieces to contend (imo) but is it Final Four or else?

If she wins the SEC outright and the SEC Tournament and lose again in the Elite 8 is that still underachieving?

What are the expectations after losing what many may consider were the teams 2 best players?

Not making excuses for her because she must improve as a Head Coach but I am also of the belief that it doesn't happen overnight and even some of the greatest coaches have droughts. Remember ND wasn't ND again until they landed Skylar Diggins (they had been okay but they weren't a power house until she came).

Baylor also suffered after winning their first title and it took them to Land Griner and Simms to return to where they once were.

Maryland is still searching for their next title, so is Gary Blair at A&M. It has been 20 plus seasons for Tara in the Championship department and she went through a spell until the Ogumwinke sisters arrive.

Only team that has really been able to sustain the dominance (although when Maya left they had a few down seasons in a sense) was UConn and part of that is due to the horrible conference they play in.

 

[NoBackBoard]

I hear your concerns and have had some of the similar concerns.

The lack of pure shooters is one that I think can be corrected and will be if the emphasis has been put on improving there.

Our biggest issue has been Holly's belief that getting it into the post by any means necessary is the solution to victory.

I think the picking up the grad transfer brown and looking at players like Emily Saunders and Kennedy Brown (stretch 4) or Goforth who is a 3pt shooter in the 2020 class are normally players we wouldn't recruit in the past.

This would also help us beating the 2-3 we have to have someone to be able to step at the free throw line/high post and his that shot with consistency (they also must be willing to take that shot and not be told to look into the post when that shot is wide open).

The defensive intensity in the Post starts with your Post player and for the Past 4 seasons we had one (and I am not knocking her) that was more concerned with controlling how many fouls she got instead of focusing on how many shots she could send in the stands (Block shots). When there is an anchor in the middle teams are less likely to come into the Paint.

Green and KK showed (in limited time) last year that nothing easy was coming in the paint and if they didn't block the shot they were going to put you on your ass (sorry).

I am intrigued to see how the team plays without the feeling of entitlement or knowing that no one else will take their spot. We finally have a roster imo where every spot is up for grabs (or at least should be) and if you're slipping you could easily sit on the bench.

Competition is always better but when there is no competition you become complacent.

I'm willing to give Holly until the 2017 class (Rennia, Evina, KK, Annie) are seniors and if they haven't accomplished a Final Four then and the program looks like it is still stuck when it is then I will get back on board with a possible replacement.

I am atleast willing to give her that chance as I feel that class (2017) imo is truly her 1st recruiting class

Please tell me why you consider the 2017 class Holly’s first when she’s been leading the team since 2011 and been the official head coach since 2012?

And what have you seen from the coaches, not players, that gives you indication that our offensive and defensive woes will be corrected?

 

[Coach Jumper]

I agree with you but my question is what is under-achieve.

The culmination, not the initial process....The team came out in beast-mode. A phenominal run, then it started to spiral, had some moments, then exited both the SEC and NCAA's way to early....Based on our start, national rankings and considerations and the team we had,,, 1 or 2 in the SEC and FF was minimum.
Minimum!

Folk have to have realistic expectations. Based on what the other teams have are we a Final 4 team? We have talent but are we going to be better than ND, Oregon, Baylor, and UConn (even with the losses of Gabby, Nurse, and Stevens)

We have the pieces to contend (imo) but is it Final Four or else?

Placing 1-2 in the SEC's and FF in the NCAA's is my Mendoza line for ANY and every UT team.

If she wins the SEC outright and the SEC Tournament and lose again in the Elite 8 is that still underachieving?

That would be acceptable for THIS year.

What are the expectations after losing what many may consider were the teams 2 best players?

You mean the two second round draft picks?

Not making excuses for her because she must improve as a Head Coach but I am also of the belief that it doesn't happen overnight and even some of the greatest coaches have droughts. Remember ND wasn't ND again until they landed Skylar Diggins (they had been okay but they weren't a power house until she came).

Overnight no, but in five years...absolutely!


Baylor also suffered after winning their first title and it took them to Land Griner and Simms to return to where they once were.

I believe Mercedes and Jamie were ranked equal or better than these two at the start of their collegiate careers.


Maryland is still searching for their next title, so is Gary Blair at A&M.

Yes and they didn't have back-to-back top 3 recruiting classes that included multiple MCD AA's to rebuild with.



It has been 20 plus seasons for Tara in the Championship department and she went through a spell until the Ogumwinke sisters arrive.

Who's fault is that? If you are counting on the players over the coaching, to get you back to prominence, you will suffer spells like this.

Only team that has really been able to sustain the dominance (although when Maya left they had a few down seasons in a sense) was UConn and part of that is due to the horrible conference they play in.

And to the incoming "reloads" that they have year after year.


I'm not giving an inch this year. I am not a Holly hater, but I am a basketball coach. As a coach I sit on my couch, at my computer, in the stands and consider every move that the person in my role is making...

Last year I cheerleaded like I was a member of the CHATT/Pat4 fraternity...I ate enough crow to cover a cornfield. Not this year.

 

[mlindsay]

Please tell me why you consider the 2017 class Holly’s first when she’s been leading the team since 2011 and been the official head coach since 2012?

And what have you seen from the coaches, not players, that gives you indication that our offensive and defensive woes will be corrected?

I don't think she was as actively involved in the previous classes to be honest. I believe she trusted the person who she put in charge of recruiting to do their job and I don't think they saw eye to eye on many things. Hence why she was replaced.

She had been leading the class since 2012 but many of the players had already received offers to play for coach Summitt and her still being on as Head Coach-Emeritus allowed many who committed verbally to maintain those commitments (also some backed out or chose to initially go elsewhere).

I think she really went about the 2017 class as well as the 2018 class differently and was far more active in recruiting the players than she had previous classes as she imo relied on the belief as many seem to do is that UT recruits itself, it helps but it doesn't always seal the deal.

 

[mlindsay]

And to the incoming "reloads" that they have year after year.


I'm not giving an inch this year. I am not a Holly hater, but I am a basketball coach. As a coach I sit on my couch, at my computer, in the stands and consider every move that the person in my role is making...

Last year I cheerleaded like I was a member of the CHATT/Pat4 fraternity...I ate enough crow to cover a cornfield. Not this year.

I truly understand but as I've said also as a coach sitting on the couch, at the computer, in the stands considering every move doesn't make us greater than those doing it everyday.

Like you I have coached Rec Ball, Travel Ball, and AAU Ball (on the boys side both as an assistant and Head Coach) several of my guys have (probably just like yours) gone on to play D1-D3 ball, some at the JUCO level and some currently overseas. That still doesn't put me in the position to go to Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or UNC coaches and say give me a damn job because this is what I can do or have done.

I need to work myself up in the ranks. Again I don't agree with all that Holly is doing or have done and I also think that she can improve in several areas. Having met people recently who are connected to the program I see that she wants it and that she is trying to return the program to where it once was. But there are far too many that think she is just suppose to win especially when she is one of the few who still recruits and coaches by the book!

She's not making contact with players on other folks teams, or still contacting players once they verbally commit elsewhere. She's not offering jobs to parents or people connected to the Top recruits in an effort to get their player. She is also keeping up with the 100 % graduation rate and outside of 2 years ago and what occurred she hadn't had players transfer out, even when everyone (and I've been guilty) just knew she would lose players (Annie and/or Evina) or suggested players go elsewhere (MeMe, Dunbar, and/or Harris)

I love the mindset of the players she's bringing in and the mindset of the coaches she's added (Reeves and Gordon) and I believe she's on the right track. And if I am wrong 2 seasons from now I am willing to eat crow but as I've stated I am also willing to give her at least that because I feel she finally has who and what she wants around her (as you continually state "The Perfect Storm"!

 

[NoBackBoard]

I don't think she was as actively involved in the previous classes to be honest. I believe she trusted the person who she put in charge of recruiting to do their job and I don't think they saw eye to eye on many things. Hence why she was replaced.

She had been leading the class since 2012 but many of the players had already received offers to play for coach Summitt and her still being on as Head Coach-Emeritus allowed many who committed verbally to maintain those commitments (also some backed out or chose to initially go elsewhere).

I think she really went about the 2017 class as well as the 2018 class differently and was far more active in recruiting the players than she had previous classes as she imo relied on the belief as many seem to do is that UT recruits itself, it helps but it doesn't always seal the deal.

What have you seen from the coaches that makes you believe our offensive and defensive woes will be corrected?

 

[T-TownVol]

What have you seen from the coaches that makes you believe our offensive and defensive woes will be corrected?

If I understand his posts correctly........basically the first 5 years of her tenure as HC were on "cruise control" and NOW she is ready to be a good HC......I mean, NOW she is actually INVOLVED in who they sign and these players are who she wants and not just some assistant under her, who she,apparently, gave "Carte Blanche" over the recruiting.....

 

[alexvol]

...Including Tennessee, who lost their two best players.

MSST and SC are my picks for SEC champs, dependent on which one of them picks up Anriel Howard with the other finishing second. SC will be pretty deep and has the luxury of not having to rely on their freshmen...a luxury Tennessee does not have. MSST returns an AA post and an excellent play making PG, with enough decent backup pieces that they should be fine, although a Longshot for FF. Mizzou is probably third best with Cunningham and Porter leading the way. If Howard stays at TAMU, I'd pick them fourth. Even if she doesnt, they still might be fourth.

So that leaves a Tennessee team made up mainly of freshmen and sophomores, no outside shooters, no proven post players, and an inept coach. Let's just say that this will be a long season...

Well articulated analysis and right on target.Fact is I hope we break even in SEC play.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

I truly understand but as I've said also as a coach sitting on the couch, at the computer, in the stands considering every move doesn't make us greater than those doing it everyday.

Like you I have coached Rec Ball, Travel Ball, and AAU Ball (on the boys side both as an assistant and Head Coach) several of my guys have (probably just like yours) gone on to play D1-D3 ball, some at the JUCO level and some currently overseas. That still doesn't put me in the position to go to Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or UNC coaches and say give me a damn job because this is what I can do or have done.

I need to work myself up in the ranks. Again I don't agree with all that Holly is doing or have done and I also think that she can improve in several areas. Having met people recently who are connected to the program I see that she wants it and that she is trying to return the program to where it once was. But there are far too many that think she is just suppose to win especially when she is one of the few who still recruits and coaches by the book!

She's not making contact with players on other folks teams, or still contacting players once they verbally commit elsewhere. She's not offering jobs to parents or people connected to the Top recruits in an effort to get their player. She is also keeping up with the 100 % graduation rate and outside of 2 years ago and what occurred she hadn't had players transfer out, even when everyone (and I've been guilty) just knew she would lose players (Annie and/or Evina) or suggested players go elsewhere (MeMe, Dunbar, and/or Harris)

I love the mindset of the players she's bringing in and the mindset of the coaches she's added (Reeves and Gordon) and I believe she's on the right track. And if I am wrong 2 seasons from now I am willing to eat crow but as I've stated I am also willing to give her at least that because I feel she finally has who and what she wants around her (as you continually state "The Perfect Storm"!

Way to take ownership of your remarks while also recognizing the team AND COACHES need to improve in many areas! I am someone who just sits and watches for the most part I’ve talked about players, coaches, and us as fans. Nice post and keep on believing. I think deep down most on here really do wish we would return to the where we once were. While others are here for their own agenda and some just to be or stirrers. All in all I enjoy all perspectives but it is refreshing to see someone own up to things they’ve said and see both sides of the coin.

So questions.... we have both seen her in person. 1. Do you think Amira’s first step will be an asset for her like it was on the high school and national level? 2. Was it me or have you seen her knock down 3/4 jumpers in a row to where it could be a weapon if worked on? 3. Who do you think will be the next big thing coming from Paul VI or do you see them taking a dip in the next few years (besides Ashely O)?

 

[Coach Jumper]

I truly understand but as I've said also as a coach sitting on the couch, at the computer, in the stands considering every move doesn't make us greater than those doing it everyday.

Never said it did...I don't speak for the masses, or you,,,I speak for me. And my strengths are UT's weaknesses right now!. So I stay in sight. And do what I can to help.

Some of us never got a shot at doing it daily, if I did, Geno would be my barometer and I'd have only one goal, to make him watch his rear-view mirror.
Lofty?
Yes.
But every impossibility that has been overcome by anyone who has done it, started with a goal others thought to be impossible

Like you I have coached Rec Ball, Travel Ball, and AAU Ball (on the boys side both as an assistant and Head Coach) several of my guys have (probably just like yours) gone on to play D1-D3 ball, some at the JUCO level and some currently overseas. That still doesn't put me in the position to go to Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or UNC coaches and say give me a damn job because this is what I can do or have done.

Yes, but unlike me, you don't see yourself as ready for such a task.
Me, if I ever get a shot, , , ,
I will take that opportunity to do as I teach my ballers, "

-Never! be afraid
-Shoot, "knowing"
-You must be "willing to risk"

and
I will make that shot.

I love the mindset of the players she's bringing in and the mindset of the coaches she's added (Reeves and Gordon) and I believe she's on the right track. And if I am wrong 2 seasons from now I am willing to eat crow but as I've stated I am also willing to give her at least that because I feel she finally has who and what she wants around her (as you continually state "The Perfect Storm"!

I hope you're right. If not, I hope I am.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Well articulated analysis and right on target.Fact is I hope we break even in SEC play.

break even??

 

[mlindsay]

If I understand his posts correctly........basically the first 5 years of her tenure as HC were on "cruise control" and NOW she is ready to be a good HC......I mean, NOW she is actually INVOLVED in who they sign and these players are who she wants and not just some assistant under her, who she,apparently, gave "Carte Blanche" over the recruiting.....

That's exactly what I am saying. I think she took advantage of the situation and thought her tenure at UT would award her the luxury of "chilling" because although expectations are high folk would understand she is not Coach Summitt and she needed time to put whatever her plans for the program into place.

She was wrong and she now (and this is my opinion) is taking back control/putting people in place to help her succeed.

She is also getting players and staff member who listen (and lets be honest not everyone listened) and will do whatever it takes to ensure the program is successful.

 

[Coach Jumper]

That's exactly what I am saying. I think she took advantage of the situation and thought her tenure at UT would award her the luxury of "chilling" because although expectations are high folk would understand she is not Coach Summitt and she needed time to put whatever her plans for the program into place.

She was wrong and she now (and this is my opinion) is taking back control/putting people in place to help her succeed.

She is also getting players and staff member who listen (and lets be honest not everyone listened) and will do whatever it takes to ensure the program is successful.

Sometimes taking control is to not be timid about letting go of control and putting people in place that have abilities and characteristics that you don't.... this is what I'm waiting for in this Administration

 

[mlindsay]

Way to take ownership of your remarks while also recognizing the team AND COACHES need to improve in many areas! I am someone who just sits and watches for the most part I’ve talked about players, coaches, and us as fans. Nice post and keep on believing. I think deep down most on here really do wish we would return to the where we once were. While others are here for their own agenda and some just to be or stirrers. All in all I enjoy all perspectives but it is refreshing to see someone own up to things they’ve said and see both sides of the coin.

So questions.... we have both seen her in person. 1. Do you think Amira’s first step will be an asset for her like it was on the high school and national level? 2. Was it me or have you seen her knock down 3/4 jumpers in a row to where it could be a weapon if worked on? 3. Who do you think will be the next big thing coming from Paul VI or do you see them taking a dip in the next few years (besides Ashely O)?

1.) I think it will be an asset for her if she continues to use it. She has to jab a little harder imo but that can come over time.

2.) I haven't seen it in the games I watched her play but I believe it was her team first mentality where she chose to pass up consecutive jumpers in an effort go get others involved. I think it can be a weapon if worked on and told by the coaches how much they would like her to take that shot.

3.) Because I have saw her play more on the AAU circuit and only caught her playing in maybe 3 games at Paul VI (Twice as a Junior when Makayla Vaughn and Scott-Grayson were there) and this past season I don't really know the other players that well. I think they will be okay next season but I do think they take a dip for a season or 2 once Ashley leave. I think they have to look at more of the Public school in the DC/PG county area and not limit themselves.

I have a cousin (I found out at a family function recently) who is currently playing at Parkdale High School (in PG County, I am unsure of what AAU team she plays for) who is in the Class of 2020 who is very raw but she is 6'5", she'll probably end up at Riverdale Bapist or Bishop McNamara because Paul VI normally don't go after players from PG county or the public DC schools.

 

[mlindsay]

Like you I have coached Rec Ball, Travel Ball, and AAU Ball (on the boys side both as an assistant and Head Coach) several of my guys have (probably just like yours) gone on to play D1-D3 ball, some at the JUCO level and some currently overseas. That still doesn't put me in the position to go to Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, or UNC coaches and say give me a damn job because this is what I can do or have done.

Yes, but unlike me, you don't see yourself as ready for such a task.
Me, if I ever get a shot, , , ,
I will take that opportunity to do as I teach my ballers, "

-Never! be afraid
-Shoot, "knowing"
-You must be "willing to risk"

and
I will make that shot..

I was offered positions at several institutions that my players were offered but I have been totally against the whole selling them to the highest bidder in exchange for my personal gain and ignoring what was best for them.

I also am up for the task but I am not against starting from the bottom at an institution and working my way up because I am confident in my abilities.

 

[T-TownVol]

That's exactly what I am saying. I think she took advantage of the situation and thought her tenure at UT would award her the luxury of "chilling" because although expectations are high folk would understand she is not Coach Summitt and she needed time to put whatever her plans for the program into place.

She was wrong and she now (and this is my opinion) is taking back control/putting people in place to help her succeed.

She is also getting players and staff member who listen (and lets be honest not everyone listened) and will do whatever it takes to ensure the program is successful.

WOW, what a great testimony for the coach put in charge of the best program in women's college basketball........

 

[alexvol]

That's exactly what I am saying. I think she took advantage of the situation and thought her tenure at UT would award her the luxury of "chilling" because although expectations are high folk would understand she is not Coach Summitt and she needed time to put whatever her plans for the program into place.

She was wrong and she now (and this is my opinion) is taking back control/putting people in place to help her succeed.

She is also getting players and staff member who listen (and lets be honest not everyone listened) and will do whatever it takes to ensure the program is successful.

If that is the case she is absolutely dumber than I thought she was and tooo dumb to continue as the Lady Vol coach.....fact is she proved the dumb and dumber three years ago.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I was offered positions at several institutions that my players were offered but I have been totally against the whole selling them to the highest bidder in exchange for my personal gain and ignoring what was best for them.

I also am up for the task but I am not against starting from the bottom at an institution and working my way up because I am confident in my abilities.

Nor was I above the starting at the lowest level. I offered to coach one of their guards over a summer which would have cost them nothing to take a look at me. I had one workout with one of their players and that player asks for me for twice a week workouts. I also worked a season with another and that player got significantly
better too. So I am more than willing to start at the bottom and have offered to do so ...but if you can't get someone to consider you for the job of a line cook then you might as well go ahead and apply for a chef position

 

[mlindsay]

Nor was I above the starting at the lowest level. I offered to coach one of their guards over a summer which would have cost them nothing to take a look at me. I had one worked out with one of their players and that player asks for me for twice a week workouts. I also worked a season with one of their players and that player got better too. So I am more than willing to start at the bottom and have offered to do so ...but if you can't get someone to consider you for the job of a line cook then you might as well go ahead and apply for the chef position

And I’m glad that you offered your services and the players could’ve possibly benefited from it but as a program who does things by the books maybe she was unwilling to take that chance not knowing what you and your intentions really were and based on your constant talk here your eyes seem to be more set on taking over the program rather than helping it!


I’m sure there have been plenty other coaches and parents contacting Holly trying to tell her what’s best for her program or what they can do for it!

I wish you all the best and hope one day you get what you’re seeking where you’re seeking it!

God Bless!

 

[Coach Jumper]

And I’m glad that you offered your services and the players could’ve possibly benefited from it but as a program who does things by the books maybe she was unwilling to take that chance not knowing what you and your intentions really were and based on your constant talk here your eyes seem to be more set on taking over the program rather than helping it!


I’m sure there have been plenty other coaches and parents contacting Holly trying to tell her what’s best for her program or what they can do for it!

I wish you all the best and hope one day you get what you’re seeking where you’re seeking it!

God Bless!

Originally I was only trying to work as a summer coach and do what I could to up the skill level of some of the players. But once I was blocked out without a face to face interview that kind of stoked the more ambitious side of me that little part of me that doesn't quit. All I want to do is help this team and there is a need in
the areas of continuity and flow and individual skills and maybe someone to influence them mentally so we can get the full game out of them instead of a third of a game.

The one thing I cannot put up with on the basketball court is lack of effort I will set a stud down and play a kid on crutches before I let that person back in my game.


I think of words I heard it straight from Pat Summitt's mouth at the SEC women's tournament in Chattanooga in 1997... She said, "I will Coach anything but passion, if I have to teach someone to love my game they're not worth teaching". . . Those are words were said in front of me by Pat Summitt,, nothing about effort it was about passion

All I want my friend as for my Lady Vols program to be a success. I don't care how, I don't care who , I only care that... God bless you as well

 

[mlindsay]

Originally I was only trying to work as a summer coach and do what I could to up the skill level of some of the players. But once I was blocked without even face to face interview that kind of stoked the more ambitious side of me that little part of me that doesn't quit. All I want to do is help this team and there is I need in continuity flow individual skill and maybe influence them mentally so we can get the full game out of them instead of a third of a game.

The one thing I cannot put up with on the basketball court is lack of effort I will set a stud down and play a kid on crutches before I let that person back in my game.


I think of words I heard it straight from Pat summitt's mouth at the SEC women's tournament in Chattanooga in 1997... She said, I will Coach anything but passion, if I have to teach someone to love my game they're not worth teaching. Those are words said in front of me by Pat Summitt nothing about effort it was about passion

All I want my friend as for my Lady Vols program to be a success. I don't care how, I don't care who , I only care that... God bless you as well

And I am with you on that as I also will set my best player down if they aren't giving me what I ask for and I also agree that you can't coach effort nor passion.

I wish she would've made a statement and really bench those who in stretches wasn't giving their all but then I could see her being killed even more.

Imagine how the fan base would have destroyed her had she brought Mercedes and Jordan Reynolds off the bench and started Middleton and Nia Moore over them. Or down right refused to play those two in stretches, this fan base would still be calling for her head in my opinion.

I don't think any thing she does will satisfy this fan base to be honest.

She could win a title next year and folk would say well Kim Mulkey and Muffet have 2 and she's 9 (or however many) away from Geno.

Again I am wishing her the best and hope she turns things around and if she is unable to I hope she makes the decision to do so (resign) quicker than it takes the administration to do so.

 

[T_Vol376]

I don't think any thing she does will satisfy this fan base to be honest.

She could win a title next year and folk would say well Kim Mulkey and Muffet have 2 and she's 9 (or however many) away from Geno.

You are 100% correct on this mlinsdey. And the ones calling HW dumb do not know what they’re talking about.

 

[alexvol]

And I am with you on that as I also will set my best player down if they aren't giving me what I ask for and I also agree that you can't coach effort nor passion.

I wish she would've made a statement and really bench those who in stretches wasn't giving their all but then I could see her being killed even more.

Imagine how the fan base would have destroyed her had she brought Mercedes and Jordan Reynolds off the bench and started Middleton and Nia Moore over them. Or down right refused to play those two in stretches, this fan base would still be calling for her head in my opinion.

I don't think any thing she does will satisfy this fan base to be honest.

She could win a title next year and folk would say well Kim Mulkey and Muffet have 2 and she's 9 (or however many) away from Geno.

Again I am wishing her the best and hope she turns things around and if she is unable to I hope she makes the decision to do so (resign) quicker than it takes the administration to do so.

You are absolutely wrong about " I don't think any thing she does will satisfy this fan base to be honest ".All she has to do is be competitive in playing the best teams and win her share along with beating those teams like Bama who has about 10 % of talent that Holly has had.

 

[LadyVol1908]

You are absolutely wrong about " I don't think any thing she does will satisfy this fan base to be honest ".All she has to do is be competitive in playing the best teams and win her share along with beating those teams like Bama who has about 10 % of talent that Holly has had.

The only TOP team Holly hasn’t been competitive with is UCONN.