Will Muschamp blasts NCAA for suspending DE Sharrif Floyd

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lawgator1 said:
I think that the criticism is that this outfit did things like bake sales and car washes to raise funds to then pay for bus tickets, food, things of that nature for underprivileged kids to go on these campus visits. It was out in the open and in fact advertised. I've seen nothing suggesting that it pointed the kids in any particular direction, which is what you seem to be worried most about (and I understand that).

To me, this organization that raises money and spends it like this is THE FREAKIN ANTIDOTE to the real problem, which is the agents, the underhanded coaches, the "recruiters" who are out there giving these kids with nothing all sorts of gear and money that they never had.

SAM is the antithesis of that and its a shame that the NCAA is basically saying that if you are poor and live in a friend's basement, then screw you, you aren't allowed to take even a bus ticket somewhere through a public organization with no interest in where you go.

By all accounts, the outrage here from Muschamp, Floyd's high school coach, and others connected to the situation is real. And accurate.
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I just used the "like" button for the first time. Great addition to the board, btw

And great post.
 
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I'll add that, to whatever extent you believe in motivation being a big factor in college football games, I suspect that this is going to rally the Gators around Floyd pretty hard for his return on 9/17 ....
 
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So the TN game is how we take outrage out on NCAA decisions? That would be our luck, you lose a great player for 2 cupcakes we get to face him all "enraged". I say good, wouldn't want to face a "down" FL team.
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DD4ME said:
So the TN game is how we take outrage out on NCAA decisions? That would be our luck, you lose a great player for 2 cupcakes we get to face him all "enraged". I say good, wouldn't want to face a "down" FL team.
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I have always preferred facing rivals at their best because, otherwise, how do you know if you are getting any better?
 
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Floyd is going to take out some frustration on the Tennessee offense next week. I can't wait to see the front of Easley, Howard, Floyd, and Powell on the field at the same time.

UF's DL is going to be so sick this year.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Floyd is going to take out some frustration on the Tennessee offense next week. I can't wait to see the front of Easley, Howard, Floyd, and Powell on the field at the same time.

UF's DL is going to be so sick this year.
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Blah blah blah TN board...the faux outrage is now waning due to a realization the punishment was pretty irrelevant anyway
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lawgator1 said:
I have always preferred facing rivals at their best because, otherwise, how do you know if you are getting any better?
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a friend of mine calls this "the sweet spot". You always want to beat a team when they are in their sweet spot. Feels better, looks better, is better.

(that friend used to be a Sports Radio host. He used to sing Rocky Top on the air every Friday afternoon. . . . until the good folks at UT sent him a cease and desist letter. hahaa. He is not exactly Kenny Chesney)
 
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GatorBill said:
Pell Grant money can be used to pay for classes, books, living expenses. In the case of a scholarship athlete, it is usually used to pay for things like:
1) flat tires on yer bike
2) Moped/Scooters
3) dinner out with the fellas a few times
4) rent during summer (to hold the house you rent during school)
5) hookers
6) Travel for family to see you play
d) grandmaw has to eat

I dont have a problem with the Pell Grant thing. I think more players need to apply for them. If your family is broke, they are broke. I know it would suck to send my kid to a school and then not be able to afford to eat.

As for the issue that has him suspended: I agree with tNCAA that rules are rules, and they are in place to guard against the SMU's and MiHammy's of the world. But just like in the Michael Oher (spelling?) case, sometimes you have to actually investigate where the money came from, what was the intent behind it, and was it actually good intentions, or boosters being boosters. If it all comes out clean, you have to let it go.

My cousins is a pastor at a church in Gainesville. Several players at his church every week. On weeks that they have a pot luck lunch afterwards there are usually 2x the amount of players. Is this an illegal gift?

(Im not dumb enough to name the church!!)

I dont see a problem with it.
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I didnt see jorts on your list.
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Unfrozen Caveman said:
I didnt see jorts on your list.
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Good point. :good!:

Also can be used for:
1) to touch up the mullet
2) fresh coat of turtle wax on the 86 camaro
d) new bulbs for the brake lights on the ole homestead.

Good to know that my daughters classmates can put their Pell Grants to good use also. :victory:


Back in the day, I used mine mostly at the Pizza Hut. Back then you could get a personal pan or an Italian Sub, and a glass of Stroh's Signature for 5bucks.

My gf was on the UF Swim team. We went to the Copper Monkey for bigger than life Chef Salad once or twice a week also. (and a beer)
 
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GatorBill said:
Good point. :good!:

Also can be used for:
1) to touch up the mullet
2) fresh coat of turtle wax on the 86 camaro
d) new bulbs for the brake lights on the ole homestead.

Good to know that my daughters classmates can put their Pell Grants to good use also. :victory:


Back in the day, I used mine mostly at the Pizza Hut. Back then you could get a personal pan or an Italian Sub, and a glass of Stroh's Signature for 5bucks.

My gf was on the UF Swim team. We went to the Copper Monkey for bigger than life Chef Salad once or twice a week also. (and a beer)
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Copper Monkey = Good Times.

Remember it well.
 
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Unfrozen Caveman said:
Before you two start making out can we get back to the thread topic?
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I didnt mean to leave you out. I ate at the Morrill Hall cafeteria with a couple of UT (women) basketball players 2 weeks ago, . . . . and some girl from the rowing team (novice).

:) no pics.
 
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GatorBill said:
Doesnt matter to me either way. I was having dinner with my kid before she came home for the weekend.

While the bball players were very nice and seem like good people, I wasnt there to oogle them.














I prefer swimmers and volleyball players.
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No.

Gymnasts.
 

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Unfrozen Caveman said:
No but im tired of hearing how innocent these players are and that they are exploited.Im surprised Muschamp didnt splash some water on his face to look like he was crying when he went on that fake tirade.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Unfrozen Caveman said:
Blah blah blah cheater got caught blah blah blah shouldve been suspended for the year.
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BigPapaVol said:
I didn't hear anyone say anything about whether the kid's actions warranted a suspension. That leads me to believe that it was earned and Muschamp should shut his hole.
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Unfrozen Caveman said:
wah wah wah.Im drowning in my tears.
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Unfrozen Caveman said:
Before you two start making out can we get back to the thread topic?
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look out- internet tough guys here. :pepper:
 
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UGA insider said:
Respect for Will for sticking up for his boy. All I can say is WOW, I did not know anything about this kid besides being a highly recruited kid. What a story, a little emotional too man. I am a HUGE Shariff Floyd fan now and I wish him nothing but success at UF.

Will needs to be careful with the NCAA boys. They don't like it when you disagree with them, especially when a coach does it publicly. The NCAA rules are garbage, no common sense whatsoever.
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yeah we had a coach like that didnt we :eek:lol:
 
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I don't give a damn about his past and current situation. How the hell is it fair to all the other kids with a similar background that did it right. CWM complaining is pathetic and selfish because he wouldn't say anything if it was a different teams player in that situation. It's horses$&t. It's unfair and was dealt with that in mind. I agree with a punishment.
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HialeahGator said:
Jarvis Jones was given money from his mentor/money raised by the Columbus Park n Rec to visit USC and attend a few camps but Floyd does the samething and has to sit out two games... AJ Green sells his jersey and has to sit out 4 games but Cam Newton doesn't get anything because he "didn't know"....NCAA is F.O.S
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The Jarvis Jones situation was a little different. The investigation revealed that the relationship existed long before Jones was a highly recruited ballplayer, it went back to when Jones was in elementary school. And yes, the AJ and Newton rulings were hillarious.
 
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HialeahGator said:
He didn't take money for cars,get free tats, clothes or pu$$y but used the money from his HS coaches and a Nonprofit to attend camps and AA combine. Jarvis Jones and Crowell had help from the parks and rec in Columbus but they didn't have to sit out games. Complete BS from the NCAA.

"Preferential treatment is how the NCAA tried to explain itself. What’s preferential about a poor kid from a rundown Philadelphia neighborhood accepting help from people who wanted him to go to San Antonio to play in the US Army All-American game? Did the University of Florida or any other school recruiting Sharrif participate in the raising of the funds that allowed Sharrif to go to this game? Of course they didn’t, and the NCAA even admits it." 24/7
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I don't think he was involved in this. You might be thinking about Kentavious Caldwell, 5 star basketball recruit who signed with UGA. Caldwell is part of this investigation, something about his mother's cell phone bill being paid I believe.
 
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