Will there be football in 2020?

[cgrish]

I’m confused...someone said that he said to inject Lysol? Am I missing that?

Fake news said that about the lysol. And if you read the President's statement above he was talking to a dr. and did not suggest anyone take anything he was asking the dr. to check it out.

 

[clarencepeabody]

The heck are you talking about?

2018 - 2019 Approximately, 35.5 million people were infected with influenza, approximately 16.5 million went to their healthcare provider for treatment, approximately 490,600 were hospitalized, and 34,200 people died from it. This is something we’ve had a vaccine for, for many many years. The biggest reason people don’t have issues with the flu anymore is the vaccine and heard immunity. Plus, proven treatments outside of a vaccine.

I think you just nailed it. 34k people died last year from the flu, and this virus killed 60k in two months.
Also, when you refer to “multiple doctors,” I’d like to know who you’re talking to. My brother, father in law, and two of my best friends are physicians, and they continue to be absolutely terrified at what this can do, and how bad it could be if we don’t take it seriously. Look, I want to see football played as much as anyone else (as well as economic stability, and for 20 million people to get their jobs back), but at some point you have to get your priorities straight.

 

[cgrish]

No valid immunologists have said that.

I have heard multiple immunologist say that, they argue by being in lock down so to speak it weakens your immune system. Ny latest stats even show this 67% of new cases diagnosed yesterday, were from those who had been in lock down.

 

[cgrish]

His first 4 letters of his name says it all.
On the other hand, why is the cocktail of chloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc not being touted and shouted from the mountain tops? From what I'm reading, if administered early in the symptoms, it has great success.

Imo its because it is an old drug, that already has generic brand, and it is cheap, the medical experts don't want this. They want a new one, which will be much more expensive. And you are right from what I have read it is working with great success, especially when given early.

 

[JacketVol]

Actually, I have been tracking the reported cases and reported deaths in the U S and the world. The U S still have 33-34 % of the world's cases and 23-24 % of the deaths. We have less tha 5% of the World's population. The newest data indicate that the first cases in the U S were likely occurring in late October-early September. I think it is almost 100% likely that we will have a very difficult late Fall and Winter this year with this virus. Please be prepared for more hard times during the next 12 to 18 months. Remember, it not just the people over age 60 who can and will suffer problems from this virus, not only in the U S but around the World.

Also already tested way more than the rest of the world. If it was so bad, why wasn’t anything shut down in say November. Because we didn’t freaking over react.

 

[cgrish]

What you are reading is incorrect. Hydroxychloroquine is conclusively ineffective. The study favoring it was of only 32 patients in France and was never properly vetted.

Hydroxychloroquine alone is ineffective, but highly effective along with zinc, by many more than 32 patients, and many in the usa. You must be getting all of your info from fake news networks. I listen to all of them, and have heard from many dr. who have used these drugs very effectively with great results when treated early. Two of the dr's, don't remember their names were in Calif. And notice how much lower the death rate in Calif is than Ny. In New york at first no dr. was allowed to prescribe these drugs unless the were hospialized, it was later changed by the governor.

 

[cgrish]

By all means let’s see the data that proves this

There is no data to support this. This drug has been used for many years and is approved by fda to be safe.

 

[cgrish]

Not triggered at all but I have no problem calling people on their BS

You responded to one of his statements, but not the other, are you a millennial?

 

[Volsfaninva917]

You responded to one of his statements, but not the other, are you a millennial?

Tell ya what, if Tennessee wins 10 games this year ( bowl can be included ) i will reveal who i am with pictures for proof.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Guys. There is literally 0.00% chance of a college football season this Fall. Why?

(1) Covid-19 isn't miraculously disappearing;
(2) There won't be a vaccine by the Fall;
(3) Crowded stands with fans shoulder-to-shoulder is an impossibility;
(4) Teams playing in empty stadiums also impossible. The legal liability is a non-starter to "force" kids to play.

Adjust your mindset. Find another hobby.

Hopefully, we'll get either a vaccine, herd immunity or viable treatments prior to the '21 season.

How do we get herd immunity hiding in our homes with no vaccine?

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Just more speculation.

Please show some source that even remotely suggests that 30% of the US population, has already been exposed to the virus.

You are basing all of your statements on whimsical fantasies that you are telling yourself to feel better about the reality of the situation.

A study from Stanford University

COVID-19 Antibody Seroprevalence in Santa Clara County, California

Says that its likely that infection rates are more than 50 times higher than has been reported/discovered.


There are others from reputable universities and reputable scientists.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Actually, I have been tracking the reported cases and reported deaths in the U S and the world. The U S still have 33-34 % of the world's cases and 23-24 % of the deaths. We have less tha 5% of the World's population. The newest data indicate that the first cases in the U S were likely occurring in late October-early September. I think it is almost 100% likely that we will have a very difficult late Fall and Winter this year with this virus. Please be prepared for more hard times during the next 12 to 18 months. Remember, it not just the people over age 60 who can and will suffer problems from this virus, not only in the U S but around the World.

While folks younger than 60 do contract the virus the number that suffer serious consequences are minute. Under 40? The number becomes statistically insignificant for serious complications. Under 60 with no prior health issues? Again, statistically insignificant numbers are dying or having serious health issues.

Returning to normal life for the vast majority of folks is the fastest way to reach herd immunity and save lives.

A true quaratine that asks people over 70 and those with serious health issues to stay at home as much as possible and take protective measures when.they do go out will put this virus in our rearview much faster than cowering at home until the election is over.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

He was asking a very intelligent question, he was not suggesting it in any way. You watch too much fake news. Notice even in your statement above. "is there a way we can do something like that"? That is a question. And it also sounds interesting to me as well. Lots of cough syrups have a lot of alcohol in the medication, and they say 70% alcohol kills the virus, so why not look at a medication with an alcohol content int it. Not do it but why would not the medical experts check it out? Just a question and nothing more than that.

Yes, asking medical researchers to "look into injecting disinfectants" is very intelligent. The most intelligent.

 

[FlyFishnVol]

Then you should know nearly 8,000 Americans die everyday over the last several years. We are not over the pace by much.

So, Worlwide 66k are getting Covid-19 per day, 22k in the USA, 1300 per day die of Covid-19 (16% of your 8,000) these numbers started to be tracked 3/23/20, less than 60 days.....again, let's just say we diasagree.

 

[BeardedVol]

A study from Stanford University

COVID-19 Antibody Seroprevalence in Santa Clara County, California

Says that its likely that infection rates are more than 50 times higher than has been reported/discovered.


There are others from reputable universities and reputable scientists.

The Stanford study recruited through Facebook and other social media outlets, and was not a random sample of the population, so you it can't even be used to extrapolate the probable infection rate of Santa Clara county California, much less the entire country. That's called sampling bias, and you go out of your way to not do it when trying to create a statistical model for a large geographic area.
Antibody surveys suggesting vast undercount of coronavirus infections may be unreliable

 

[Probably_in_Class]

Multiple doctors who have treated this virus have stated it is absolutely ridiculous that we shut down and haven’t been going about our lives. Basically stating that once you come out of lockdown your immune system is going to be weaker and you are going to be more susceptible to the virus. Whereas if you were out and about you would have a higher immune system and would have less symptoms from the virus and be able to fight it off just like our bodies do every other virus.

Please provide a source to this so I don't have to call you a liar.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Also already tested way more than the rest of the world. If it was so bad, why wasn’t anything shut down in say November. Because we didn’t freaking over react.

Missed the facts. No one recognized that we were dealing with a new virus until we were notified no the WHO and China. Case were misdiagnosed as Flu and deaths were classified as flu, pneumonia, heart disease etc. Actually, very few deaths have blood tests unless there are some reason to do so. When it was discovered that a new virus was circulating, most of the World did not think it would be serious because nothing was know about the epidemiology of the virus. We still don’t know much about the virus, but we will as more data are analyzed. This virus will not just disappear as some of our political community would like for us to believe.

 

[GAVol]

lets see all these nursing homes are locked down - NO visitors whatsoever, yet how are all these residents getting infected and dying ?

It's not really that complicated to figure out.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Yes, asking medical researchers to "look into injecting disinfectants" is very intelligent. The most intelligent.

I hope you are making this statement in jest. Such a procedure would useful if you were wanting to poison some one or take your own life.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

While folks younger than 60 do contract the virus the number that suffer serious consequences are minute. Under 40? The number becomes statistically insignificant for serious complications. Under 60 with no prior health issues? Again, statistically insignificant numbers are dying or having serious health issues.

Returning to normal life for the vast majority of folks is the fastest way to reach herd immunity and save lives.

A true quaratine that asks people over 70 and those with serious health issues to stay at home as much as possible and take protective measures when.they do go out will put this virus in our rearview much faster than cowering at home until the election is over.

One can not make that statement until more is known about the problems associated with the disease. If one reads the article written in the Wall Street Journal, one would understand that all of the population are at risk from an increasing number of server complications. More recent data are indicating that this virus has many more adverse conditions than previously observed. One can not assume that if you are young and are I in terrific physical condition etc, that you want get the virus or suffer life lasting complications from this virus.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Please provide a source to this so I don't have to call you a liar.

Doctors provide differing opinion on shelter-in-place order, say county should reopen

Maricopa County health official disagrees with decision to close restaurants, schools

I can keep going. While social distancing etc were important in the beginning to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. It is time to let the cattle out. We need to build herd immunity and keep our immune systems high.

 

[lukeneyland]

My azz will be in Neyland!

I guess they'll be arresting me then

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

The Stanford study recruited through Facebook and other social media outlets, and was not a random sample of the population, so you it can't even be used to extrapolate the probable infection rate of Santa Clara county California, much less the entire country. That's called sampling bias, and you go out of your way to not do it when trying to create a statistical model for a large geographic area.
Antibody surveys suggesting vast undercount of coronavirus infections may be unreliable

Redirect Notice


Why do i get the feeling you will find reasons to disavow every study that doesn't fit your prior view?


However, logic dictates that a disease that is often asymptomatic and very infectious will have a higher than accounted for spread. To think that folks across the country walked around with zero social distancing or other protective measures and this contagious disease didn't spread until we started testing is sill and damgerous.


So choose to believe what you will, that is certainly your right. However, history will show that the lockdown was the right thing to do until we had data to show it wasnt. We have that data now.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

One can not make that statement until more is known about the problems associated with the disease. If one reads the article written in the Wall Street Journal, one would understand that all of the population are at risk from an increasing number of server complications. More recent data are indicating that this virus has many more adverse conditions than previously observed. One can not assume that if you are young and are I in terrific physical condition etc, that you want get the virus or suffer life lasting complications from this virus.

While there is some evidence that there could be some long term effects from being infected with Covid19, it is proven fact that living in a third world country is very dangerous to the health of young and old alike.


Third world countries are countries where long term unemployment and government on the verge of collapse is the norm. We should allow that to happen here on scant evidence that some people may suffer lung damage long term.


Some people care only about the here and now. I prefer to leave my children amd grandchildren a country that is viable to live in.

 

[JacketVol]

Missed the facts. No one recognized that we were dealing with a new virus until we were notified no the WHO and China. Case were misdiagnosed as Flu and deaths were classified as flu, pneumonia, heart disease etc. Actually, very few deaths have blood tests unless there are some reason to do so. When it was discovered that a new virus was circulating, most of the World did not think it would be serious because nothing was know about the epidemiology of the virus. We still don’t know much about the virus, but we will as more data are analyzed. This virus will not just disappear as some of our political community would like for us to believe.

Missed the facts? rst, we get notified by WHO and China who give us bad info but regardless if misdiagnosed, people were dying and nothing was shut down. Who gets involved and next thing you know, people are still dying but now it is time to shut down everything. Yet, when we didn't know what was happening, we didn't blink. Why? Because we didn't have a constant news cycle pushing for it and making people aware of guess what? People were dying. It is tough to deal with death. How many funerals does a typical person attend a year? 1.5 or 2 because as we get older more friends die than when we are younger. So, when you hear constantly about death, death and more death, it wears on you in so many areas. When in fact, death is happening and has been your entire life. Before this, did many people sit around thinking X number of people died today in the USA and the world? Absolutely not. If you hear 2,000 died today from something, it seems like such a large number when in fact, it is normal for more than that to die every day. We are used to seeing death a few times a year and now it is all we hear about constantly.

That is not positive for a person's mind set or health to dwell on that negativity but it is what we are doing. In November, people were dying and from this from what we now know as well, but it was a blip on the radar and nothing was shut down. The shut down and reaction started when we started being fed information from who and experts who had assumptions but why were those assumptions not used in 2009? You guys can figure that all. This virus is here and it is bad but so are many other things that cause death. Regardless, death is coming for us all and ALWAYS has been. That has not changed. But if it really was here in November or December and is as robust as it appears, then life was going fine without shutting it all down until we were told it had to be shut down.