Will Trump choose to not run in 2020

[McDad]

And the media did similar things to Reagan, Bush and would’ve done it to Romney or any Republican President. This is one reason we got Trump to begin with. You can only hear Bush, McCain, Romney is racist, sexist, Nazi etc so many times that when you later have the same people saying no but Trump REALLY is we like those other guys now. It comes off as BS

I agree a lot with this. The boy (media) which cried wolf (racist, sexist, etc) too many times and now nobody pays attention to his folly.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

And those are his good qualities?

Those are a small sample of the attacks on him. Good qualities would be pursuing agenda items like managing immigration, supporting a strong defense, stimulating commerce, promoting fair and/or equal international trade arrangements, cutting wasteful, duplicate domestic programs, weeding out corrupt swampers, siding with nationalism over globalism.

 

[luthervol]

I don't agree with the never ending attacks that come from the lies that "fake news" outlets push. Stick with valid criticism instead of putting any trivial comment Trump utters into a fabricated context and I'll listen. He never went bankrupt, he doesn't spend all of his time golfing, he isn't throwing children into cages, and Russian hookers didn't piss on him.

How about this: he golfs twice as much as Obama who he endlessly criticized for golfing to much.

 

[McDad]

Two things:
1. Your list of choices was to limited. It's not trolling, emotional, or irrational.
2. It's impossible for a racist president to be elected and supported and the country improve for everyone.

It isn't impossible. A president who is Christian doesn't have to usurp Jews or Muslims. Because we are a country of laws. Those laws protect the americans who don't believe in the things the president believes. I have nothing to fear from a black, racist president because laws protect me from his stupidity. And if it doesn't, then the president has too much power and our checks and balances are a joke.

 

[luthervol]

Love this post. It should ALWAYS be about the greater good

I agree that it should always be about the greater good.

 

[Septic]

Honestly as with most issues, it needs to be comprehensive and non-partisan. (I know right)

The physical wall is not a bad idea, but absolutely having harsh penalties for those who employ illegals or use fake tax and Social security numbers for them. Help those that are non-criminals, non-mentally ill, etc and really do want to make a better life and assimilate into American society have a quicker legal option to do so. Absolutely require cities to cooperate with ICE to deport criminals

This would help the issue by 100% but we have to get the “ICE is racist, etc” rhetoric out as much as Trump’s rhetoric

Cutting the head off the snake by jailing the employers would solve this issue almost overnight. Well as soon as a working e-verify system could be implemented.

Implementing an immigration system that wasn't overburdened and bogged down in bureaucracy would be helpful as well.

 

[McDad]

And?

summary:
3 stage immigration. immigrant must be sponsored by an American citizen and pay $5,000 fee
stage 1. Conditional immigrant. Work and live. Pays no income tax. Has not constitutional rights.
State 2. Provisional. Work, live, pays some tax, receives some services (schools, etc).
Stage 3. Unconditional Naturalized citizen. all the responsibilities and privileges of citizenship.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

How about this: he golfs twice as much as Obama who he endlessly criticized for golfing to much.

How about when he's at Mar-A-Lago it's not necessarily a full time golf outing but instead a secure location that he can go to and the Secret Service can manage while business can be conducted with any government or corporate leader without interference from an abusive media?

 

[luthervol]

It isn't impossible. A president who is Christian doesn't have to usurp Jews or Muslims. Because we are a country of laws. Those laws protect the americans who don't believe in the things the president believes. I have nothing to fear from a black, racist president because laws protect me from his stupidity. And if it doesn't, then the president has too much power and our checks and balances are a joke.

The larger point is that a country that elects and supports a racists can not be a country in which everyone fairly benefits.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Cutting the head off the snake by jailing the employers would solve this issue almost overnight. Well as soon as a working e-verify system could be implemented.

Implementing an immigration system that wasn't overburdened and bogged down in bureaucracy would be helpful as well.

I agree with this 100% and those who exploit illegals in this country and in other countries (I.e Nike) should suffer serious penalties for such.

But it also has to have strict enforcement for the gang members, sex traffickers, criminals who constantly are getting arrested and released in Dem cities

 

[Rickyvol77]

summary:
3 stage immigration. immigrant must be sponsored by an American citizen and pay $5,000 fee
stage 1. Conditional immigrant. Work and live. Pays no income tax. Has not constitutional rights.
State 2. Provisional. Work, live, pays some tax, receives some services (schools, etc).
Stage 3. Unconditional Naturalized citizen. all the responsibilities and privileges of citizenship.

Good idea IMO

 

[USAFgolferVol]

How about when he's at Mar-A-Lago it's not necessarily a full time golf outing but instead a secure location that he can go to and the Secret Service can manage while business can be conducted with any government or corporate leader without interference from an abusive media?

I have absolutely no problem with this scenario.

BTW, he's just as abusive to the media. It all started with his unbecoming behavior and the fact he doesn't like it when they call him on his constant lying

 

[Doberman]

Although 17-19 was a sideshow, I was considering voting for Trump at the beginning of 2020 if the Dems went too far left.

Then 2020 happened. Trump created division when the company needed leadership and I can stomach a flawed candidate in Biden when compared to the alternative.

Damn brother. How much farther left must they go?

They’ve already fallen off the edge of the flat earth.

 

[McDad]

The larger point is that a country that elects and supports a racists can not be a country in which everyone fairly benefits.

Simply isn't true. I am not saying his racism was a central campaign plank. I am saying i don't care if they are racist, transgendered, pot head etc as long as the country improves.

 

[luthervol]

Simply isn't true. I am not saying his racism was a central campaign plank. I am saying i don't care if they are racist, transgendered, pot head etc as long as the country improves.

I get what you are saying, and I agree to a point. Trump is beyond that point.
When a country knowingly elects and supports a horrendously despicable human, there are obviously national issues that will prohibit fair improvement for all.

Trump crosses that line of acceptability; that is and always has been the point. The fact that that sentiment never reached critical mass is the tragedy. It is proof that our country is currently not a place where people can expect fair opportunities for improvement.

 

[McDad]

I get what you are saying, and I agree to a point. Trump is beyond that point.
When a country knowingly elects and supports a horrendously despicable human, there are obviously national issues that will prohibit fair improvement for all.

Trump crosses that line of acceptability; that is and always has been the point. The fact that that sentiment never reached critical mass is the tragedy. It is proof that our country is currently not a place where people can expect fair opportunities for improvement.

You're entitled to feel that way. It doesn't matter to me. Trump is LBJ-crass with social media account. He is JFK/Clinton-philandering with a social media account. He is Carter-ineptitude with a social media account. I didn't intentionally pick Ds by the way, just the way it all came together as I typed.
I agree with prohibition of fair improvement. Our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are the ones we are prohibiting the most.

 

[luthervol]

You're entitled to feel that way. It doesn't matter to me. Trump is LBJ-crass with social media account. He is JFK/Clinton-philandering with a social media account. He is Carter-ineptitude with a social media account. I didn't intentionally pick Ds by the way, just the way it all came together as I typed.
I agree with prohibition of fair improvement. Our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are the ones we are prohibiting the most.

And I agree with your last statement. The debt that we are passing on is unconscionable.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

It's cute how you guys casually infer that Trump is a horrendously despicable human and a racist.

BTW, how many innocent people did BHO kill with all the bombs he dropped on them?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Simple question, will he decide to "declare victory" and not run in 2020?

Consider the possibility that he can't stand losing and just may "declare victory" and withdraw.

It's possible considering his personality.

I realize this is a Troll job by you, because surely you aware that Trump is now campaigning for reelection?

 

[luthervol]

It's cute how you guys casually infer that Trump is a horrendously despicable human and a racist.

BTW, how many innocent people did BHO kill with all the bombs he dropped on them?

I'm not casually inferring anything. I'm blatantly stating it.
I never called him a racist.
My take is that everyone is on the continuum. Trump positions himself further from the norm than any past modern day president.
That's part of what makes him horrendously despicable.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I'm not casually inferring anything. I'm blatantly stating it.
I never called him a racist.
My take is that everyone is on the continuum. Trump positions himself further from the norm than any past modern day president.
That's part of what makes him horrendously despicable.

And Barry isn't for killing all of those innocents?

Bolton wanted vicious, aggressive retaliation after attacks on the US and allies in the ME. Trump was the one that slowed that roll.

Trump is aggressive with the combative, liberal media. Good!

 

[luthervol]

And Barry isn't for killing all of those innocents?

Bolton wanted vicious, aggressive retaliation after attacks on the US and allies in the ME. Trump was the one that slowed that roll.

Trump is aggressive with the combative, liberal media. Good!

We undoubtedly have different perspectives.
I always assumed enough would have the same perspective as me to force Trump out of office.
Disappointingly and unfortunately that never happened.
Why that never happened would be another thing on which we disagreed.

 

[clarksvol00]

How about when he's at Mar-A-Lago it's not necessarily a full time golf outing but instead a secure location that he can go to and the Secret Service can manage while tweets can be twittered, golf can be played, and Fox & Friends can be watched without interference from an abusive media?

Think you had a typo.

 

[McDad]

It's cute how you guys casually infer that Trump is a horrendously despicable human and a racist.

BTW, how many innocent people did BHO kill with all the bombs he dropped on them?

It doesn't make BHO better, but it might be easier to count the presidents who DIDN'T kill innocent people with bombs, battles, and wars.

 

[Orangeburst]

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