Will we end up with Dual QB's?

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CMcEver said:
I think he is looking at the fact we have 2 preseason games prior to Oregon, so (like Muschamp did last year), he can play the 2 best in a real game situation and see who performs the best. I think we don't find out the final starter until after AP.
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I think this is completely rational and if the competition is actually that close between 2 of the guys (or even 3 or 4) then this isn't a bad way to go to find out who the man is.

The problem is that if the competition is so close it is because the skill gap between them is small. I know enough to say these guys aren't particularly good, so this competition is about who will suck less in comparison to the others.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I think this is completely rational and if the competition is actually that close between 2 of the guys (or even 3 or 4) then this isn't a bad way to go to find out who the man is.

The problem is that if the competition is so close it is because the skill gap between them is small. I know enough to say these guys aren't particularly good, so this competition is about who will suck less in comparison to the others.
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How do you know this?
 
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fade route said:
I agree with this for the most part. It is concerning though that Worley can't seem to separate himself. I think Dobbs and Ferg will redshirt unless the wheels come completely off because of bad QB play and BJ decides to build for the future. Worley may get the first snap, but Peterman may be the guy longterm.
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This. People seem to think he will throw one of the freshman in there for a few plays a game to see what happens.

No coach in his right mind would burn an entire year off of a QB just to see how they handle a few snaps.

It will not happen. If Worley or Peterman are the STARTER, then the freshman will redshirt.

The only way this changes is if things fall apart and one if the freshman fully take the job.

There will be no splitting snaps with a freshman. That is beyond stupid.
 
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I say we play a different QB every quarter and switch it up on who plays what quarter each game and keep teams on their toes because of their different playing styles
 
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Ten_Titans said:
This. People seem to think he will throw one of the freshman in there for a few plays a game to see what happens.

No coach in his right mind would burn an entire year off of a QB just to see how they handle a few snaps.

It will not happen. If Worley or Peterman are the STARTER, then the freshman will redshirt.

The only way this changes is if things fall apart and one if the freshman fully take the job.

There will be no splitting snaps with a freshman. That is beyond stupid.
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It isn't beyond stupid if one of them separates themselves as the emotional and physical leader of this team. I agree he may try to redshirt one or both but for now he wants them all competing seriously for the job. Worley or Peterman may hold on and make that unnecessary but I have no doubts at all that Jones will play a true freshman if he sees something he likes or thinks they give us a better chance.
 
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Air_Force_Vol27 said:
I say we play a different QB every quarter and switch it up on who plays what quarter each game and keep teams on their toes because of their different playing styles
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The only people this will keep "on their toes" is the other 10 players on our offense.
 
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The likelihood of holding onto 3 competent QB's with more coming in is low anyway. If Peterman earns the nod and keeps it 3-4 years that's even more unlikely. I'm pretty confident Butch will let at least one of the Freshman QB's get some playing time assuming they show enough progress to earn it.
 
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gnm53108 said:
How do you know this?
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Say what you will, but I have seen enough Worley to know he isn't good and never will be good. I am confident in that belief and would even be willing to wager on it. Now, knowing that the ceiling for Worley is mediocrity then if he is the odds on favorite to win the job as many suggest then that doesn't bode well for this season. Now this can obviously change over the course of the season because the freshman and even Peterman are still young and developing. But for the present, in my opinion, we are a bottom 3 passing team in the conference and I base that on the fact that Worley has looked terrible in all his starts, O&W games, open practice....everything. If there isn't someone on the roster better than him then the outlook is poor.
 
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DD4ME said:
It isn't beyond stupid if one of them separates themselves as the emotional and physical leader of this team. I agree he may try to redshirt one or both but for now he wants them all competing seriously for the job. Worley or Peterman may hold on and make that unnecessary but I have no doubts at all that Jones will play a true freshman if he sees something he likes or thinks they give us a better chance.
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Yeah, play the freshman if they win the job. Absolutely. All I am saying is that you don't split snaps with a freshman.

If the freshman is not the clear cut starter, he should be miles from taking the field.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Yeah, play the freshman if they win the job. Absolutely. All I am saying is that you don't split snaps with a freshman.

If the freshman is not the clear cut starter, he should be miles from taking the field.
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I'm with you there. If they aren't ahead of the 2 older guys better to save them although saving eligibility when you have 3 with at least 4 years eligibility will probably not matter anyway. I think Butch gets one of the true freshman playing time and uses it as motivation to stoke their development. If I had to guess, Ferguson.
 
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92volalum said:
no a better theory would be he reads.volnation so he is keeping it a secret so all the internet coaches can keep saying dobbs is the man.....he has color n can run becauae we all know the new generation of people only believe a man of color can lead u to victory...lol you know the running n junping thing if u white....lol

geez can the season start.
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:unsure:
 
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you really never hear worley making a "BIG PLAY" but you have heard of dobb's,peterman and fugerson making big plays i dont see worley starting unless he steps up big in practice
 
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fade route said:
I agree with this for the most part. It is concerning though that Worley can't seem to separate himself. I think Dobbs and Ferg will redshirt unless the wheels come completely off because of bad QB play and BJ decides to build for the future. Worley may get the first snap, but Peterman may be the guy longterm.
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I agree
 
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omghulkhands said:
Say what you will, but I have seen enough Worley to know he isn't good and never will be good. I am confident in that belief and would even be willing to wager on it. Now, knowing that the ceiling for Worley is mediocrity then if he is the odds on favorite to win the job as many suggest then that doesn't bode well for this season. Now this can obviously change over the course of the season because the freshman and even Peterman are still young and developing. But for the present, in my opinion, we are a bottom 3 passing team in the conference and I base that on the fact that Worley has looked terrible in all his starts, O&W games, open practice....everything. If there isn't someone on the roster better than him then the outlook is poor.
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Thanks. I was wondering if you were at practice or something.

btw...I disagree with your opinion. IMO he's more than capable of running this offense. Either way we'll know soon enough.
 
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I know this may not go over well...and I hate bama as much as anyone but didn't they have a similar battle for the starting job going on a couple years ago between Mccarron and some other qb. I think the qb Mccarron beat out may have been a mobile guy. If I remember correctly they split drives for a couple of games until McCarron stepped up agains Penn State. Do you think this could happen with Worley/Petermen/Freshman qbs. They could both play snaps for the first couple of cupcake games then one emerge against Oregon? Could be a huge confidence boost / leadership establishing game that propels the season
 
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IMO I think what's got Worley ahead right now is his experience where the other guys have not even played a college game. Worley had to replace bray in some tough games and did pretty well, but it gave him lots of experience and what to expect when game time comes. I think Worley starts but if peterman gets playing time and some experience then I think he is the better man and will take over sometime during the season.
 
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If no one has separated himself from the others then no need to rush it. First 2 games will hopefully sort it out. Naturally since Worley has played in SEC games in front of large crowds he would seem to be the one to lean on first. But remember Butch's mantras, being physical and CONSISTENT. I say play them all if you get the chance in the first 2 games and let it sort itself out. The longer he waits to name a starter, the harder all the QBs will try and hopefully progress faster. Another Butch mantra: COMPETITION.
 
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IMO, many of you are trying to apply old school philosophy on QB's to Jones. He has played two QB's before. He will name a starter and release a depth chart. But for those of you who think that means the competition is over... you are simply wrong. If the starter does not perform in games or practice then they will be replaced. He is more like Spurrier than Fulmer on QB's. With Jones and Spurrier, it is not much different from any other position.

I personally think Worley is and has remained the #1 guy on the depth chart since spring. Many of you want to read something into Jones not affirming him as the starter... the other side of that is no one else has taken Worley's reps from him. He's been first out with the 1's and has taken most of the #1 reps since spring. Peterman got his shot splitting the #1 reps in the spring. The Fr have done so this fall... and the message is that no one has beaten Worley out.

Jones is a pretty eccentric coach so he could come out after practice today announce someone else has taken over the #1 slot. BUT since they are about to have a couple of days off before heading into more game week prep types of practices.... Worley appears to be the first guy up.

Spurrier not only did it... but is still doing it.
 
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GlockVol said:
If no one has separated himself from the others then no need to rush it.
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Who said that? The truth is that Worley has run first and most often with the 1's since the beginning of spring. It is more likely that no one has closed enough ground on him to challenge him at this point than he's neck and neck with the others.

Jones has made it pretty clear that the first thing is game management, second passing, and last running. Peterman could not pass Worley on either of the first two during the spring. It is a tall order to expect either of the Fr to do it this fall.

If he stinks it up, he won't keep the job. But the job right now seems to be Worley's.

Again, Jones could pull a complete surprise but that is where the facts point right now.
 
#47
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Anyone but Worley, I have seen what he can do and have not been impressed. I think the other 3 prospects have much higher ceilings!
 
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sjt18 said:
Spurrier not only did it... but is still doing it.
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Sometimes well sometimes nsm.

The year they did the Beecher switch comes to mind.

I agree with you fundamentally but I still say you only take this approach if you aren't that confident in the guy getting 1st team reps. I've already mentioned it being a short week things will likely remain as is, meaning Worley is defacto due to experience.
 
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OH-Vol said:
Anyone but Worley, I have seen what he can do and have not been impressed. I think the other 3 prospects have much higher ceilings!
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Yes but they do not have the "experience" that Worley has had in game time atmospheres and haven't been under pressure like Worley has when he had to replace bray in some tough games that he did pretty well in. That's makes a lot of difference.
 
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Jmo, but I think Peterman gives us the best chance to win and excell in this offense. With our young, but talented group of WR's, a mobile QB that can extend plays could be the difference in a few games this year. Peterman looks like he's progressed a lot compared to his spring game performance, and I think he will ultimately win the job at some point this season.
 
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