With Our Horrid DT Situation...

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ole_orange

ole_orange

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how does every big-time DT in the Southeast not come to Tennessee? We literally have one SEC DT on the roster now. Instant playing time is a given by default.

Why not play at a top 10 program historically and play right away? I am probally unrealistic and I know I am desperate, but Tennessee can sell something to these recruits that no SEC program has been able to promise in years.
 
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This, literally, is a question I have been asking myself for quite some time. The only answer I can come up with is that recruits view Tennessee as a school in a state of flux. We do have playing time to sell, no doubt, but most big time college DT's would prefer to go to a school competing for championships and sit in a 3-4 deep rotation. I never would have dreamed that our Defensive Line situation would have gotten as bad as it is. I can remember when Defensive Line was a strength, not a weakness. I sure hope Marlon Walls can overcome this injury because we are definitely going to need him. Hopefully, in the not so distant future Coach Chuck Smith will have Tennessee rolling again and competing for top D Line recruits.
 
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DT is the toughest position on the field to recruit for a few reasons-
1) They are hard to project
2) Very few "great" ones are available each year
3) They all know both of the ABOVE and parlay that into "current winners" offers.

It will take a Coach to turn some lesser talent into Studs for these, hard to find, prospects to see UT as a destination.
 
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I do not care if they have 5 imaginary stars or two s**** beside their names. We need a whole bus load of DTs that can play in the SEC right away.
 
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ole_orange said:
how does every big-time DT in the Southeast not come to Tennessee? We literally have one SEC DT on the roster now. Instant playing time is a given by default.

Why not play at a top 10 program historically and play right away? I am probally unrealistic and I know I am desperate, but Tennessee can sell something to these recruits that no SEC program has been able to promise in years.
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isnt going to matter for this year. teams are going to run all over us
 
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lilesrt said:
This, literally, is a question I have been asking myself for quite some time. The only answer I can come up with is that recruits view Tennessee as a school in a state of flux. We do have playing time to sell, no doubt, but most big time college DT's would prefer to go to a school competing for championships and sit in a 3-4 deep rotation. I never would have dreamed that our Defensive Line situation would have gotten as bad as it is. I can remember when Defensive Line was a strength, not a weakness. I sure hope Marlon Walls can overcome this injury because we are definitely going to need him. Hopefully, in the not so distant future Coach Chuck Smith will have Tennessee rolling again and competing for top D Line recruits.
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:good!: +1
 
#8
#8
Yeah i'm really missing the haynesworths and the hendersons of smash mouth d lines right about now
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#9
well at this time we dont have any scholarships to give with the Houston Nutt Rule in place.
 
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It will help when we no longer have to compete with the bags of money given out at UNC.
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#11
I guarantee you Dooley gets it done this year. He will get the amount we need.
 
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I hope the staff is looking for some top JUCO and Prep School DT's that can come in as EE's and contribute next season. Losing two DT's already hurts, can't put a band aid to stop this bleeding.
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I think Chavis is mostly to blame for our DT situation. He was not that strong of a recruiter and he thought the recruits would just line up to play for him and TN so he didn't need to recruit, he let his assistants and the program do it for him..... and Fulmer let him get away with it. All through the 90's and up until about 2004 TN always had great depth at DT, heck it was one of our strengths. Then it seemed like we slowly lost our attraction to these Dt recruits out there and the problem has not been fixed/addressed since then. We REALLY need a strong DT class this year......
 
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I hate to be the token "stars don't mean anything" poster but when it comes to DT it is extremely hard to project. Look at the players taken at DT in the first round of the draft this year if you don't believe. Recruiting rankings matter but ratings are less a factor with DTs.
 
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buckfama said:
I think Chavis is mostly to blame for our DT situation.....
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I don't get how Chavis gets hated on here. Chavis was promoted to defensive coordinator in 1995 and has produced some of the stingiest defenses in college football. Since 1995, Chavis' defenses have held their opponents below a 100-yard rushing average in six seasons, and eight times during that span the Vols have ranked among the top three in the SEC in total defense.
 
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I got a 1 word solution to all our troubles.......steroids.

Vol Mania 21 is the man you need to get in touch with.
 
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MikeDVol said:
I don't get how Chavis gets hated on here. Chavis was promoted to defensive coordinator in 1995 and has produced some of the stingiest defenses in college football. Since 1995, Chavis' defenses have held their opponents below a 100-yard rushing average in six seasons, and eight times during that span the Vols have ranked among the top three in the SEC in total defense.
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Well if Chief hadn't of got so damn lazy on the recruiting trail we might not be so far behind the 8-ball
 
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DaddyChad said:
I hate to be the token "stars don't mean anything" poster but when it comes to DT it is extremely hard to project. Look at the players taken at DT in the first round of the draft this year if you don't believe. Recruiting rankings matter but ratings are less a factor with DTs.
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I'm pretty sure Suh and Mccoy were rated highly coming out of HS...
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ole_orange said:
how does every big-time DT in the Southeast not come to Tennessee? We literally have one SEC DT on the roster now. Instant playing time is a given by default.

Why not play at a top 10 program historically and play right away? I am probally unrealistic and I know I am desperate, but Tennessee can sell something to these recruits that no SEC program has been able to promise in years.
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because depth chart alone is not how college recruiting works

(professional free-agency, however, does by such)
 
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Phat-Phil said:
I'm pretty sure Suh and Mccoy were rated highly coming out of HS...
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McCoy was. I thought Suh was a three star but apparently he was a four star out of high school. Williams was a three star. I still stand behind the statement that linemen are much more difficult to prognosticate.
 
#25
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If our Defense shows to be good this year, we stay competitive and win 1 or 2 games we shouldn't, it should be a pretty attractive place for D-Lineman to come next year.
 
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