With reports of Tee saying NO now....

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dreVol said:
at this point, CBJ can't afford to hire Weist. after missing on Tee, he needs a "big name" hire who is a proven recruiter.
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Honestly it wasn't CBJ that missed out but it was Tee missied out. CBj opened the door for him and all he had to do was say yes. Were talking about former Vol who happens to be the QB of the team that won the NC.

I wish I was a fly on the wll in the Martin household last night. I cannot see Tee just saying no all because of money or something like that. I wonder if it was of the L.A lifestyle and the wife? Tee would've beeen good to get but is not the make or break person for the whole staff. We'll be fine.
 
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CBJ reached out and offered Tee the job. I think that's really all we could ask for.
Saban-Mediocre record at MSU
Spurrier-Did well being at DUKE
Miles-Mediocre record at OSU
Urban-Bowling Green to Utah. Kept majority of his staff at UF
Richt-No head coaching experience before transitioning as OC from FSU to UGA
Butch-Has a staff that now bleeds orange.
 
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SmileyVol_c/o_10 said:
CBJ reached out and offered Tee the job. I think that's really all we could ask for.
Saban-Mediocre record at MSU
Spurrier-Did well being at DUKE
Miles-Mediocre record at OSU
Urban-Bowling Green to Utah. Kept majority of his staff at UF
Richt-No head coaching experience before transitioning as OC from FSU to UGA
Butch-Has a staff that now bleeds orange.
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The only thing I could say is that the offer to T was a token offer. According to some people, T was quoted as saying the offer was laughable. This was from this mornings radio show from a caller that sadi he knew T. SC is private but the TOS is saying he could be making as much as 500K at USC.
 
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onevol74 said:
What was Les Miles' record before LSU?

What was Saban's record before LSU?

Way was Spurrier's record before UF?
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Saban took over an 0-11 Big Ten program and beat a top ten ranked Michigan team in his very first year. After that, he managed to upset one top 25 ranked rival a year while staying .500 or better in conference, until his 5th year, when his team finished in the top 10 and were loaded with future high NFL draft picks. So yeah, way more impressive than Jones.

Spurrier had 3 winning seasons in the USFL and then 3 seasons at Duke, where he won an ACC championship (at Duke). Also more impressive than Jones.

So, what is your point?
 
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Saban (34-24-1) at Michigan State.
Spurrier (20-13-1) at Duke
Miles (28-21) at Oklahoma State
Urban (17-6) at Bowling Green, (22-2) at Utah
Richt (no head coaching experience)
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
It happens all the time when a coach from a smaller program moves to a bigger job. It's been pointed out several times that Meyer brought more than half his staff from Utah (and some of those guys had been at Boling Green with him before that). CBJ is bringing in guys that know his system and have had success with it. There is nothing wrong with that until proven otherwise.
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I agree with your comments but I wish CBJ would not have made the "no stone unturned" comment at the PC. You can see where some may find it silly to say that and then basically hire your entire previous staff.
 
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I think it might have been a little more difficult to buy into his whole family love theme if he did not show loyalty to the guys that he worked with, bought into his way of doing things, and helped him ultimately get this job. Also, there is already going to be a learning curve with the football team on both O and D...I would hate for our HC to have to also mold an entirely new staff to his way. Hiring key coaches from Cinci is, imo, the safest route.
 
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onevol74 said:
What was Les Miles' record before LSU?

28-21

What was Saban's record before LSU?

43-26-1
Got MSU ranked as high as 5th

Way was Spurrier's record before UF?

20-13-1 with 1 ACC Title
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Minus Miles, Saban and Spurrier proved that may have an idea what they were doing. CBJ has not done that, imo.
 
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Saban, miles, or spurrier would all be homerun hires for our WR opening.....

STAY ON TOPIC
 
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DarthVisor said:
Minus Miles, Saban and Spurrier proved that may have an idea what they were doing. CBJ has not done that, imo.
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Jones won 4 conference titles in 6 years and had Cincinnati ranked 21st in the final 2010 Coaches Poll. Like him or not, dude has a reasonable resume.

A coach either has 'It' to make the leap to the big time or he doesn't. Nobody knows whether Jones has it or not. Nobody. We'll find out soon, though.

Whether anybody endorses the hire or not, he's still our coach. Nothing me, you, or anybody else can do about it. It seems some people are glad to be sad, though. That doesn't work for me. I'm a 'happy' fan. The way it's been the past several years, it's hard to be a happy UT fan. However, I believe this guy has something Dooley never had: a fighting chance to make us a winner.

Concerning his staff, why shouldn't he bring in some of his own people? They were successful at every other stop he's made. As a matter of fact, a head coach starting with a new staff unfamiliar with his methodology seems like the WORST thing for us. I do like some TN flavor to our staff. But I'm also happy for him to bring on his own people along with some other guys from the south that can recruit. In my opinion, he's doing ALL of that.

Before anybody chimes in ... No, I'm not drinking any 'Butch-aid' or the like. I have reservations like everybody else. I just realize my place in the 'Orange' hierarchy. And I'm ready to support a winner... :hi:
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The only thing I could say is that the offer to T was a token offer. According to some people, T was quoted as saying the offer was laughable. This was from this mornings radio show from a caller that sadi he knew T. SC is private but the TOS is saying he could be making as much as 500K at USC.
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Except 500k in cali is probably very close to a 375k here in tennessee. Cost of living is outrageous out west. I think it is more bc of his wife imo
 
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Giveem6 said:
Except 500k in cali is probably very close to a 375k here in tennessee. Cost of living is outrageous out west. I think it is more bc of his wife imo
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So it was basically the same money. Would he want to move all the way back for a lateral move for equivalent money?
 
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Had to be the wife. No worries, there are plenty of other coaches out there. Maybe we should find one that has west coast connections and ties?
 
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Giveem6 said:
Except 500k in cali is probably very close to a 375k here in tennessee. Cost of living is outrageous out west. I think it is more bc of his wife imo
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You know, some of us like living in California. :hi: There are times that I miss Tennessee, and the cost of living here is mind-blowing (Whoa! I scored gas at only $3.45 yesterday!!), but the geography, climate, and some other incidentals just can't be beat. Just as East Tennessee has a certain vibe that makes it feel like home to many, California has a different vibe that works for others. So it might not be the wife wanting to further her career or something. Maybe he and the family just like it here. (And btw, I don't imagine that Tee would be too pleased at the implication that he was whipped on this. Just a guess.)

Another possibility, one that I haven't read here yet, is that there isn't a very big professional African-American community in Knoxville. And before everyone jumps all over me, I remember this from a series of articles in the News-Sentinel (back when it had a hyphen) that was talking about the difficulty in recruiting doctors, lawyers, engineers, professors, accountants, scientists, businesspeople, etc. here. There was (is?) a perception that there isn't a large African-American middle class here, where new members might feel at home.

With all that being said, I hate LA and SoCal in general, so why he'd want to stay down THERE, I can't fathom. :)
 
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is it true we offered T less money than he is currently making? If this is the case I don't blame him for saying no.....leaving southern California for Knoxville would be in itself a decision I would decline....with less income would be a double no no no no
 
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photovol said:
is it true we offered T less money than he is currently making? If this is the case I don't blame him for saying no.....leaving southern California for Knoxville would be in itself a decision I would decline....with less income would be a double no no no no
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I don't think we know for sure. An article on TOS said that he could make upwards of $500k at USC. Given that USC is a private school their records are not public so there is now way to know for sure. There was a caller on Knoxville sports talk radio this morning claiming to know T and claims T said the offer was "laughable ". So the moral is TIFWIW.
 
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