Wolves are NOT endangered.

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JTrainDavis said:
Nice catch BPV. Like Custer's Own from Garryowen/Pelham ( depending on your time) needed your damn Mosquitos anyhow!!
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Deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that cyclic, you need me on that cyclic.I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way.
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T-TownVol said:
Does the same go for coyotes? They come up off the banks of the Hooch and roam my property. Already got one of our cats and they do not even back down from the dogs.
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I know a guy in Tennessee who was loosing half his calf crop to coyotes, like wolves they like to attack when a ruminant is calving.

Another guy told me about his dog that wouldn't go out of the barnyard anymore, a coyote came and taunted him to chase and when he did the dog was ambushed by the rest of the pack and barely escaped.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
GS, from your delusional world that you reside in, how many vicious canines have you come across?

I have trapped Canines for years (well, 6, after my Army time ended) and have managed to release several feral or runaway dogs without getting bit, as well as many Coyotes without getting bombed by a jihadist dog.

You think that nature is evil, and that makes you one of the whusses that you hate, Shlt, even RTV and T-Tradition mock you on this hissy of yours!

Sorry all who are into this thread for Conservation purposes, I'm a RMEF member who encourages natural sustenance. This topic was too over the top for me.
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I've trapped too and was one of the early ones to try to fight against the animal rightist anti-trapping agenda.

We even sent a guy to Washington to lobby for us and he returned the money we had raised and said; "they can take congressmen to five star restaurants every night, I can't even afford to buy them a hot dog or even find a decent place to live."

I've trapped red fox, grey fox, coyote, musrat, mink, 'possum, raccoon, skunk and whatever, skinned them, stetchect them and sold the hides as well as the occassional dog and I know how to release one without being bit. (Imo feral dogs should be dispatched, I learned that early on after releasing one I found that the feral dog pack had just killed 30 new born pigs in the barn of the farmer I was trapping on the previous night.)

It isn't that hard to tell the difference between feral and domestic dogs, if you don't know, I'll tell you if you should ask.

I don't think nature is evil, I do think the 'nature fakers are evil and can produce plenty of evidence to back my claims.

I got your jihadist dog, dog!

If you are really an RMEF member then I would guess you support their position of taking wolves off the endangered species list??

If not then why?? If not then why are you attacing my postiont???

I got your delusional also, stuff it up your freaking kazoo!!!

IPorange said:
Wolves do run from people. It would be the rare kooky one that wouldn't. I've seen lots of wolf tracks in Alaska, but only ever the backside of a wolf (and even that was once.) The island where I was is loaded with wolves (Prince of Wales). I have never heard of a wolf attack.

And for the record, sharks aren't much of a threat in the grand scheme of things, either. 6 fatalities a year on the planet on average, or something like that?

Now, coconut allergies are serious business....
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In Alaska people shoot wolves, that's why they run, in other places where it's a $500 fine to shoot one, the wolves have nothing to fear.

I just spent a month in a house with a guy who had lived for the last five years is Alaska.
 
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MG1968 said:
not really, since we believe in the 2nd Amendment, we're always well-armed
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You can always depend on 6 to make irrational observations while completely avoiding the topic at hand, that being should wolves still be on the endangered species list?

OBVIOUSLY NOT!

Next question, should we even have an endangered species list???? I would say no, just send a memo that reads something like this; "adapt and survive or go extinct, the choice is all yours." :)

Here is 6's version of Little Red Riding Hood.

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"But because his status outside of society had freed him from slavish adherence to linear, Western-style thought, the Wolf knew of a quicker route to Grandma's house."

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IPorange said:
I know that moose kill more people than bears each year in this country.

I know that wolves are extremely terrified of humans, but find pets delicious.
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The killing of Candice Berner by wolves in Alaska last month is one of those stories that we read through and shudder at before moving on.

The Berner attack was not an isolated event.
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Perhaps the most disturbing element of all is the claim that both women -- and anyone else in the same predicament -- had it coming. This is the ugly side of the Green movement, one with no romanticism about it.
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The antihuman bias of environmentalism has seldom been made clearer than in these cases.
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There is no logical reason to not remove the wolf from the endangered species list, all the original enviro-wacko demands have not only met but far exceeded.

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Go over to your local supermarket IP and check the price of some of the nicer cuts of meat.

If you think those prices are unreasonably high, place the blame squarely at the feet of the enviro lobby with it's unreasonable amount of influence at the federal government level.

The enviro inspired ethanol mandates have nearly tripled the price of feed grains.

Each year more and more land is declared off limits to western ranchers who have leased grazing rights for generations, without harm to those lands I might add.

A wolf pack needs lots of hunting grounds and two packs won't use the same hunting grounds.

As canines tend to increase populations rather quickly, wolf packs that once were confined to federal lands now begin to hunt on private lands owned by ranchers trying to make a living producing beef and other livestock which is easy prey for the wolf and they take what they need and then some.

Things can only continue to get worse as long as we kow tow to the environmental lobby.

It's understandable to have empathy of little kittens but let's please try to get real for a change.
 
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I knew you were going to jump on the first documented case of a wolves attacking a human in a century, and pass if off as proof-positive.
 
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IPorange said:
I knew you were going to jump on the first documented case of a wolves attacking a human in a century, and pass if off as proof-positive.
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I have produced documentation of wolf attacks on humans during the last century in this thread fyi.

Regardless of whether there waw ever a wolf attack upon man in the whole of history since man emerged from the cave with a club on his shoulder (probably a three wood or maybe a tiger wood) there is no ligitimate reason to keep the wolf on the endangered species list.

Not really that much reason to even have an endangered species list to begin with other than to manipulate governmental policies to fit the wacko enviro agenda.

Oh, and do you have a come back for my reply to your latest global warming is real post??

Back when the US Army Corps of Engineers wanted to dam the Little T, I supported the snail darter protection plan to try to save the best trout fly fishing stream east of the Mississippi, that didn't work.

Little did I know that would evolve into cutting off irrigation water in the Imperial Valley in California, one of the very best food production areas in America, to protect the delta smelt.

Speaking of trout fishing, that gets us around the mobius loop once again to Richard Braughtigan and his 'Trout Fishing in America' book and his 'koolaid wino' short story.

Addiction can be a terrible thing.
 
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There are Red Wolfs here in my part of Alabama. My wife shot at one while deer hunting two years ago. It scared her because she was sitting on the ground when it came by her at about 100 yards.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
There are Red Wolfs here in my part of Alabama. My wife shot at one while deer hunting two years ago. It scared her because she was sitting on the ground when it came by her at about 100 yards.
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Aint nothin like a huntin woman.:)
 
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Oldvol75 said:
There are Red Wolfs here in my part of Alabama. My wife shot at one while deer hunting two years ago. It scared her because she was sitting on the ground when it came by her at about 100 yards.
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They released the red wolves in the 'land between the lakes' in Tennessee and claimed they wouldn't migrate to other areas and try to disclaim sightings outside the park.

BeecherVol said:
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As long as she's not huntin you!
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'Pistol packin' mama, lay yo pistol down'

Remember that one, used to be on every juke box.
 
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MG1968 said:
polar bears aren't endangered either, but that isn't stopping both the animals rights crowd and AGW fascists from claiming otherwise.
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All the numbers reflect otherwise. You have some credible data supporting your point? I know...you just know better. LOL
 
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MG1968 said:
Polar Bears on Thin Ice, Not Really! | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA

Canada's growing polar bear population 'becoming a problem,' locals say

Polar bear expert barred by global warmists - Telegraph

but, yeah, I know better than you too.
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No, you don't. Nothing new. The first article you cited doesn't support your ill-informed claim. The guy was reporting on two groups. Not near enough to support you.

Will Polar Bears Survive? - Polar Bears International
 
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truefan said:
No, you don't. Nothing new. The first article you cited doesn't support your ill-informed claim. The guy was reporting on two groups. Not near enough to support you.

Will Polar Bears Survive? - Polar Bears International
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All three articles support my point. Since you're an AGW alarmist, I don't expect you to agree and I don't really care if you do or not. Your initial claim was that I didn't have proof, I provided proof that I believe backed up my point.

now, go hug a tree or something.
 
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MG1968 said:
Polar Bears on Thin Ice, Not Really! | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA

Canada's growing polar bear population 'becoming a problem,' locals say

Polar bear expert barred by global warmists - Telegraph

but, yeah, I know better than you too.
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Where do all these koolaid drinkers come from and why can't they stop???

What sort of insane policy would tear down dams on a river for supposed environmental concerns and then build other dams on the same river???

Why would we totally stop irrigation to the whole Imperical valley, turning it into a desert, potentially causing food shortages, putting thousands out of work, making it impossible to pay property taxes for the land owners who will eventually have to forfeit their land to the state for the sake of some minnow that has survived at least a half century as things have been going with irrigation.

Oh wait, some of these enviro groups come right out and say; "we seek the public (state) ownership of all land, resources and means of production."

How could I not notice?
 
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MG1968 said:
All three articles support my point. Since you're an AGW alarmist, I don't expect you to agree and I don't really care if you do or not. Your initial claim was that I didn't have proof, I provided proof that I believe backed up my point.

now, go hug a tree or something.
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I see you still have no idea anything about me. Why would you automatically think this? yes, because you are really ignorant. That is the truth of the matter. I am not sold on GW but am certain on climate change. As a know-nothing deluxe you can pop it off as though you know, but I will always know better. No go back to being stupid. YOu're really good at it.
 
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truefan said:
I see you still have no idea anything about me. Why would you automatically think this? yes, because you are really ignorant. That is the truth of the matter. I am not sold on GW but am certain on climate change. As a know-nothing deluxe you can pop it off as though you know, but I will always know better. No go back to being stupid. YOu're really good at it.
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Please explain the difference as you see it. I know it's off subject but I'm curious as to your answer.
 
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KB5252 said:
Please explain the difference as you see it. I know it's off subject but I'm curious as to your answer.
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Climate change is real. There is no debate as to the event. The debate is in the cause, such as global warming.
 
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truefan said:
Climate change is real. There is no debate as to the event. The debate is in the cause, such as global warming.
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OK, the words are used and interchanged so often it's not really clear what some people mean by them unless they explain their position in detail. It is clear that you fall into the undecided camp.
 
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