Worley / Dobbs working with Whitfield Jr.

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jasonvol18 said:
Haven't seen anywhere that Dobbs is ahead of Fergy. He wasn't last year and wasn't in spring either.
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No depth chart nor CBJ has ever said RF was ahead. TSR guys are saying Worley is number 1 with Dobbs closing in. CBJ said even if RF was healthy Dobbs would have played last year. RF was never ahead. He definitely isn't now. I wouldn't be surprised if he never starts a game. You see Dobbs and Worley going the extra mile. Even Ainge who loves RF said he hasn't put in the work and done what he needs to play.
 
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I for one like Worley and hope he's our starter. I think we have a nice system I'm place for a bright future for our QB's to make the team successful!
 
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k-town_king said:
No depth chart nor CBJ has ever said RF was ahead. TSR guys are saying Worley is number 1 with Dobbs closing in. CBJ said even if RF was healthy Dobbs would have played last year. RF was never ahead. He definitely isn't now. I wouldn't be surprised if he never starts a game. You see Dobbs and Worley going the extra mile. Even Ainge who loves RF said he hasn't put in the work and done what he needs to play.
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I don't think this is accurate. Remember Dobbs didn't even travel to Florida last year. Clearly Butch felt if our 2 QB's went down he was going Ferguson instead of Dobbs.

Mad props to Dobbs. He's putting in the work and improving dramatically, but I think pretty much everyone knows Fergs was playing last year if he wasn't hurt. Dobbs showed very clearly that he was nowhere near field-ready.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I don't think this is accurate. Remember Dobbs didn't even travel to Florida last year. Clearly Butch felt if our 2 QB's went down he was going Ferguson instead of Dobbs.

Mad props to Dobbs. He's putting in the work and improving dramatically, but I think pretty much everyone knows Fergs was playing last year if he wasn't hurt. Dobbs showed very clearly that he was nowhere near field-ready.
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Considering the teams Dobbs played against and the fact the he was a true freshman in the first year of a new offence he did okay. His only bad game was vandy and our best receiver was out for most of that game which I think effected him and the playing calling as well. Also it's been rumored that some type of hand injury may have been bugging him in that game.

But I'm admittedly biased because I like Dobbs and hope he eventually gets the starting job.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I don't think this is accurate. Remember Dobbs didn't even travel to Florida last year. Clearly Butch felt if our 2 QB's went down he was going Ferguson instead of Dobbs.

Mad props to Dobbs. He's putting in the work and improving dramatically, but I think pretty much everyone knows Fergs was playing last year if he wasn't hurt. Dobbs showed very clearly that he was nowhere near field-ready.
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There are true freshman QB's that sometimes are actually ahead of the curve if you will and then there are TRUE FR QB's that are just that....Dobbs was for sure the latter.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I don't think this is accurate. Remember Dobbs didn't even travel to Florida last year. Clearly Butch felt if our 2 QB's went down he was going Ferguson instead of Dobbs.

Mad props to Dobbs. He's putting in the work and improving dramatically, but I think pretty much everyone knows Fergs was playing last year if he wasn't hurt. Dobbs showed very clearly that he was nowhere near field-ready.
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That early in the year if NP and JW would have both got hurt RF would have not came in. CBJ said Pig would have played wildcat to finish the game. Dobbs simulated Driskell and Rf did the game plan so he traveled instead of Dobbs. This is a known fact. Neither would have played that week no matter what so that's not indicative of who was ahead. Other weeks it was reversed. CBJ said Dobbs would have played when he came in for Worley regardless of RF healthy or not due to good practices. So why do people want to make up things when we have facts? The facts are they wanted to rs both and took turns running scout team or playbook according to what qb we were facing. So either could have played depending on match up. CBJ did say RF would have played at some point if healthy. He also said if RF was healthy Dobbs would have still came in. No depth chart had RF ahead ever. CBJ has never said RF was ahead. So I don't know why people refuse to believe what the coaches say.
 
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Hopefully this stuff will start to flesh itself out in the Fall.
Worley was starting to show signs of being able to not only lead the team but execute the offense at a high level. I don't think a player should lose his job to injury, but it happens. I'd love to see Worley win the job for no other reason in that he didn't have the luxury of having the kind of offensive talent around him that there is now.
 
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I think the team will be in good hands either way, with Dobbs or Worley. I'm expecting us to be a pleasant surprise for many people this year on offense.
 
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k-town_king said:
That early in the year if NP and JW would have both got hurt RF would have not came in. CBJ said Pig would have played wildcat to finish the game. Dobbs simulated Driskell and Rf did the game plan so he traveled instead of Dobbs. This is a known fact. Neither would have played that week no matter what so that's not indicative of who was ahead. Other weeks it was reversed. CBJ said Dobbs would have played when he came in for Worley regardless of RF healthy or not due to good practices. So why do people want to make up things when we have facts? The facts are they wanted to rs both and took turns running scout team or playbook according to what qb we were facing. So either could have played depending on match up. CBJ did say RF would have played at some point if healthy. He also said if RF was healthy Dobbs would have still came in. No depth chart had RF ahead ever. CBJ has never said RF was ahead. So I don't know why people refuse to believe what the coaches say.
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Ironic. Can you post a link to this "fact"?
 
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Here's hoping that RF steps up and develops into the game changer that we need. I will support any of the QB's that CBJ chooses. This talk of Worley and Dobbs alternating is just wishful thinking on some people's part. Worley will be the starter unless he gets hurt. Who is going to be No. 2 is the point we are debating.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Ironic. Can you post a link to this "fact"?
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That was almost a year ago and he said it in a press conference. I don't feel like searching. Do you really think RF would have had his rs blown if Worley was hurt second half of UF game? What if JW and NP were ready the next week? CBJ was gonna waste a rs for a quarter or two? There is no disputing RF has never been ahead on a depth chart or that CBJ has never said RF was ahead. People were going off what TSR speculated . Now TSR says it is Worley number 1 with Dobbs closing the gap and they don't want to believe it.
 
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k-town_king said:
That was almost a year ago and he said it in a press conference. I don't feel like searching. Do you really think RF would have had his rs blown if Worley was hurt second half of UF game? What if JW and NP were ready the next week? CBJ was gonna waste a rs for a quarter or two? There is no disputing RF has never been ahead on a depth chart or that CBJ has never said RF was ahead. People were going off what TSR speculated . Now TSR says it is Worley number 1 with Dobbs closing the gap and they don't want to believe it.
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But....... he burned Dobbs red shirt in the Bama game?
 
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volfan_89 said:
Because, Dobbs, at that point was the only QB on our team that had a pulse. Our QB corps last year was the walking wounded.
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Yeah but by k-town's theory wouldn't Butch have just put Pig in the wildcat in the Bama game? According to k-town Pig was going to run the wildcat before Fergs was allowed on the field.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Yeah but by k-town's theory wouldn't Butch have just put Pig in the wildcat in the Bama game? According to k-town Pig was going to run the wildcat before Fergs was allowed on the field.
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I don't remember Butch saying that, but I do remember him saying that even if Riley was healthy Dobbs still would came in after the bama game.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Yeah but by k-town's theory wouldn't Butch have just put Pig in the wildcat in the Bama game? According to k-town Pig was going to run the wildcat before Fergs was allowed on the field.
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By the Bama game the freshmen had learned the playbook and were more comfortable. They also were short qbs. Pig would have been back there to play a quarter or maybe two in a game we were already losing vs UF. Whoever came in the Bama game was likely to have to play 4 full games at qb. Pig was not going to do that. IF Rf was healthy he would have played at some point also. Dobbs and Ferg both improved a lot from the beginning season to the Bama game. Neither was ready during the UF game.
 
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k-town_king said:
That was almost a year ago and he said it in a press conference. I don't feel like searching. Do you really think RF would have had his rs blown if Worley was hurt second half of UF game? What if JW and NP were ready the next week? CBJ was gonna waste a rs for a quarter or two? There is no disputing RF has never been ahead on a depth chart or that CBJ has never said RF was ahead. People were going off what TSR speculated . Now TSR says it is Worley number 1 with Dobbs closing the gap and they don't want to believe it.
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I am hoping Riley is the future. After watching Dobbs for the second half, he didn't show much. The Dobbs supporters just keep on about him running one for 40 yards. Which was nice after watching Worley never keep it. But, Dobbs needs to improve his leadership. I like a qb that has some emotion and moxy. Dobbs didn't have it last year and appears to have at best average accuracy.
 
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k-town_king said:
By the Bama game the freshmen had learned the playbook and were more comfortable. They also were short qbs. Pig would have been back there to play a quarter or maybe two in a game we were already losing vs UF. Whoever came in the Bama game was likely to have to play 4 full games at qb. Pig was not going to do that. IF Rf was healthy he would have played at some point also. Dobbs and Ferg both improved a lot from the beginning season to the Bama game. Neither was ready during the UF game.
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Hmmm....... your theory has some gaping holes in it........

I'm getting the feeling there's some serious grasping going on.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
No way on the 2 QB system. Just because they go it doesn't make them ready. Hopefully Fergy continues to improve and wins the job at some point.
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Another bromance for you?

I'll support whoever wins the job but Dobbs appears to be doing more outside of just what the program offers to replace Worley. Not that long ago you were adamant that Lane was a "starter from day one" and Poole stood no chance. Remember?

If Ferguson is the "guy" then so be it. But YOU have no idea which of the two is better now or who has more upside. The argument is stupid to start with since no one has enough info to make a good argument. The only thing we know for sure is that so far, Worley keeps running out first with the ones and appears to be leading.
 
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k-town_king said:
That early in the year if NP and JW would have both got hurt RF would have not came in. CBJ said Pig would have played wildcat to finish the game. Dobbs simulated Driskell and Rf did the game plan so he traveled instead of Dobbs. This is a known fact. Neither would have played that week no matter what so that's not indicative of who was ahead. Other weeks it was reversed. CBJ said Dobbs would have played when he came in for Worley regardless of RF healthy or not due to good practices. So why do people want to make up things when we have facts? The facts are they wanted to rs both and took turns running scout team or playbook according to what qb we were facing. So either could have played depending on match up. CBJ did say RF would have played at some point if healthy. He also said if RF was healthy Dobbs would have still came in. No depth chart had RF ahead ever. CBJ has never said RF was ahead. So I don't know why people refuse to believe what the coaches say.
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Lol I've never seen such a fabricated story. I'm impressed.
 
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k-town_king said:
That early in the year if NP and JW would have both got hurt RF would have not came in. CBJ said Pig would have played wildcat to finish the game. Dobbs simulated Driskell and Rf did the game plan so he traveled instead of Dobbs. This is a known fact. Neither would have played that week no matter what so that's not indicative of who was ahead. Other weeks it was reversed. CBJ said Dobbs would have played when he came in for Worley regardless of RF healthy or not due to good practices. So why do people want to make up things when we have facts? The facts are they wanted to rs both and took turns running scout team or playbook according to what qb we were facing. So either could have played depending on match up. CBJ did say RF would have played at some point if healthy. He also said if RF was healthy Dobbs would have still came in. No depth chart had RF ahead ever. CBJ has never said RF was ahead. So I don't know why people refuse to believe what the coaches say.
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Some folks just believe RF is the next PM because he can throw a football and they have watched (maybe) HS footage. He was on the bench....so he's the one that would have dominated and will dominate. Doubt it....he's too inconsistent and fumbles.
 
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Roustabout said:
Hopefully this stuff will start to flesh itself out in the Fall.
Worley was starting to show signs of being able to not only lead the team but execute the offense at a high level. I don't think a player should lose his job to injury, but it happens. I'd love to see Worley win the job for no other reason in that he didn't have the luxury of having the kind of offensive talent around him that there is now.
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If I were looking at the QB who would be the best NFL Prospect....based on what we've seen thus far, it would be Dobbs. He has the arm talent and the mobility to make himself an attractive prospect for a team.

He will develop in the mental aspect of the game (ie. reading defenses, quickly going through his progressions and making good decisions). Worley isn't all that impressive in any particular area. Just has more experience, and that's about it.
 
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