Worst President's First 100 Days in History

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OuterBanksVol said:
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s failure to make good on his signature promise to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act is the most crushing political defeat of his early days in the White House.

But it is hardly the only one.

Mr. Trump — who sold himself as a winner who could turn around a country that “doesn’t win anymore” — has endured a litany of missteps, controversies, resignations and investigations, all of which have dented his “I alone can fix it” vow to remake government with businesslike efficiency.

A month shy of the 100-day mark that presidents use to gauge success, Mr. Trump’s largely self-inflicted setbacks are evidence of a novice politician, often uninterested in the inner workings of government, who is struggling to wield his constitutional authority or fully understand the limits of his office.

“No administration has ever been off to a worse 100-day start,” said Steve Schmidt, a longtime Republican strategist who served as a counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/us/politics/trump-policy-goals-missteps.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


Hey, Donald! Make America Great Again... RESIGN!!!!

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^^^ Agreed, Donald. Agreed.
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In history? Didn't the country actually split apart within 6 weeks of Lincolns election?
 
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Obsessed said:
Folks with gainful employment don't surf the net looking for presidential approval polls. That's theft sir.
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LOL! That's rather naive. I can tell you one person that's gainfully employed who posts to Volnation regularly. I think you would be surprised what some people do online while earning a paycheck. I guess that's better than having to admit that Trump's numbers have taken a hit in the last month, though. There is evidence that voters have grown weary of his tweeting and that he is being held accountable for the healthcare fiasco. Rasmussen has been very positive for him until recently.
 
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So far, his administration is about what we all expected. Amateurish, can't sustain momentum, shoots self in foot repeatedly, all show but when it comes to policy nobody knows what the f they are talking about.

And the irony is that the people who have benefited the most are the super wealthy. You know, the ones Trump said had bought the system. And in turn the ones he keeps meeting with. The rest of us, not that much has changed beyond what may be a short lived 401k bump. Wonder when his blue collar working class voters are going to finally realize that Trump pretty much holds them in very low regard.
 
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lawgator1 said:
So far, his administration is about what we all expected. Amateurish, can't sustain momentum, shoots self in foot repeatedly, all show but when it comes to policy nobody knows what the f they are talking about.

And the irony is that the people who have benefited the most are the super wealthy. You know, the ones Trump said had bought the system. And in turn the ones he keeps meeting with. The rest of us, not that much has changed beyond what may be a short lived 401k bump. Wonder when his blue collar working class voters are going to finally realize that Trump pretty much holds them in very low regard.
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They aren't going to realize it because the exploited members of society are usually the last ones to figure it out. Coal miners don't understand that the Clean Power Plan has nothing to do with the elimination of coal mining jobs. The loss of coal mining jobs is directly tied to advances in technology.

Natural gas fracking has drastically lowered gas prices and made electricity generated from natural gas much cheaper than electricity generated from coal. Add in the continuing and increasingly fast-paced improvements in western coal mining efficiency and it's easy to see why jobs that have gone away will never be coming back.

Retraining these coal miners for new jobs would cost a fraction of what it would cost to provide care for those who will need treatment for the ill effects of coal pollution including asthma, lung disease and lung cancer... but Trump will continue to lie to these people and exploit them for political gain and they will continue to buy into it.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s failure to make good on his signature promise to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act is the most crushing political defeat of his early days in the White House.

But it is hardly the only one.

Mr. Trump — who sold himself as a winner who could turn around a country that “doesn’t win anymore” — has endured a litany of missteps, controversies, resignations and investigations, all of which have dented his “I alone can fix it” vow to remake government with businesslike efficiency.

A month shy of the 100-day mark that presidents use to gauge success, Mr. Trump’s largely self-inflicted setbacks are evidence of a novice politician, often uninterested in the inner workings of government, who is struggling to wield his constitutional authority or fully understand the limits of his office.

“No administration has ever been off to a worse 100-day start,” said Steve Schmidt, a longtime Republican strategist who served as a counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/us/politics/trump-policy-goals-missteps.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


Hey, Donald! Make America Great Again... RESIGN!!!!

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You know sweetheart, if you cry long enough the bad goes away. It will all be good tomorrow princess, sweet dreams.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They aren't going to realize it because the exploited members of society are usually the last ones to figure it out. Coal miners don't understand that the Clean Power Plan has nothing to do with the elimination of coal mining jobs. The loss of coal mining jobs is directly tied to advances in technology.

Natural gas fracking has drastically lowered gas prices and made electricity generated from natural gas much cheaper than electricity generated from coal. Add in the continuing and increasingly fast-paced improvements in western coal mining efficiency and it's easy to see why jobs that have gone away will never be coming back.

Retraining these coal miners for new jobs would cost a fraction of what it would cost to provide care for those who will need treatment for the ill effects of coal pollution including asthma, lung disease and lung cancer... but Trump will continue to lie to these people and exploit them for political gain and they will continue to buy into it.
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Then how about this instead.

Let the freaking market decide coal should go away in lieu of NG and other sources and keep the government the hell out of regulating it.
 
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My day would go like this if I was Trump for a day...

Wake up, bang Melania, have cup of coffee, get security brief, breakfast of anything with bacon, shower with Melania, conduct routine office "business", go shoot with Secret Service and SOCOM over working lunch, troll Glock lovers with pictures of the Sig 320 on Twitter, come back to WH and sign EO getting rid of the mamby-pamby eco friendly rules concerning lead in ammo, fire every General/Admiral who thought it was a good idea, sign another EO stating our nation will no longer abide by the Hague Convention in terms of small arms ammo development, another EO for the DoD to procure all service wide COTS replacements for current ball ammo, go to local gun shop to show support for American small business and to troll Diane Feinstein on Twitter by showing pictures of me holding evil weapons of war, dinner, fat shame Kim Jong-Un on Twitter, sign EO stating we are no longer going to nation build if we go to war and we will go in, kill the enemy, break their toys and come home to leave the survivors to pick up the pieces, bang Melania, send out random Tweet about winning, go to sleep with smile on face.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Then how about this instead.

Let the freaking market decide coal should go away in lieu of NG and other sources and keep the government the hell out of regulating it.
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That has already been happening for the last 50 plus years - and long before any government regulation. Trump is simply lying when he says that removing regulation will bring coal mining jobs back. Advances in technology have made their jobs obsolete - not government regulation.
 
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Grand Vol said:
My day would go like this if I was Trump for a day...

Wake up, bang Melania, have cup of coffee, get security brief, breakfast of anything with bacon, shower with Melania, conduct routine office "business", go shoot with Secret Service and SOCOM over working lunch, troll Glock lovers with pictures of the Sig 320 on Twitter, come back to WH and sign EO getting rid of the mamby-pamby eco friendly rules concerning lead in ammo, fire every General/Admiral who thought it was a good idea, sign another EO stating our nation will no longer abide by the Hague Convention in terms of small arms ammo development, another EO for the DoD to procure all service wide COTS replacements for current ball ammo, go to local gun shop to show support for American small business and to troll Diane Feinstein on Twitter by showing pictures of me holding evil weapons of war, dinner, fat shame Kim Jong-Un on Twitter, sign EO stating we are no longer going to nation build if we go to war and we will go in, kill the enemy, break their toys and come home to leave the survivors to pick up the pieces, bang Melania, send out random Tweet about winning, go to sleep with smile on face.
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That would be a productive day.
 
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theFallGuy said:
So when the economy sucks under Obama, it's not his fault he got a raw deal. But when things start to pick up outside of his term, it's because Obama was awesome. Got it
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Still running on the Obama budget. You really can't tell much about a president's effects on the economy for a couple of years.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL! That's rather naive. I can tell you one person that's gainfully employed who posts to Volnation regularly. I think you would be surprised what some people do online while earning a paycheck. I guess that's better than having to admit that Trump's numbers have taken a hit in the last month, though. There is evidence that voters have grown weary of his tweeting and that he is being held accountable for the healthcare fiasco. Rasmussen has been very positive for him until recently.
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Who are they polling? Where do the numbers come from?

Then understand this, I don't care about tweets. I don't care about polling numbers.

Polling numbers mean nothing. Look no further than all the polls that said hillary was a lock for president.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Still running on the Obama budget. You really can't tell much about a president's effects on the economy for a couple of years.
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At least, more like 4-6 years for a normal admin. When they do something drastic, it can be felt quickly.
 
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hog88 said:
One day you might want to do some research and quit pulling phantom "facts" out of your ass.

https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/showtext.php?t=ptb0702
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Okay, this next fact came from the US coal report (not my ass)...

In 1950 there were 408,306 total US Coal Employment. Today, there is about 80,000. Why don't you try to stop arguing every thing you can and acknowledge the obvious? The loss of jobs in coal mining is not related to regulation... and those jobs are damn sure not coming back.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Okay, this next fact came from the US coal report (not my ass)...

In 1950 there were 408,306 total US Coal Employment. Today, there is about 80,000. Why don't you try to stop arguing every thing you can and acknowledge the obvious? The loss of jobs in coal mining is not related to regulation... and those jobs are damn sure not coming back.
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Sure, it takes less people to mine now due to automation and advances in machinery compared to 50 years ago. However those left in the field ARE losing their jobs due to regulation. This you cannot argue.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Okay, this next fact came from the US coal report (not my ass)...

In 1950 there were 408,306 total US Coal Employment. Today, there is about 80,000. Why don't you try to stop arguing every thing you can and acknowledge the obvious? The loss of jobs in coal mining is not related to regulation... and those jobs are damn sure not coming back.
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Thanks obama
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dail...83000-coal-jobs-lost-and-400-mines-shuttered/


This Labor Day, America has 83,000 fewer coal jobs and 400 coal mines than it did when Barack Obama was elected in 2008, showing that the president has followed through on his pledge to “bankrupt” the coal industry.

A 2015 study found the coal industry lost 50,000 jobs from 2008 to 2012 during Obama’s first term. During Obama’s second term, the industry employment in coal mining has fallen by another 33,300 jobs, 10,900 of which occurred in the last year alone, according to federal data. Currently, coal mining employs 69,460 Americans, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Much of the blame for the job losses is targeted at federal regulations aimed at preventing global warming, which caused coal power plants to go bankrupt, resulting in a sharp decline in the price of coal.
 
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hog88 said:
Sure, it takes less people to mine now due to automation and advances in machinery compared to 50 years ago. However those left in the field ARE losing their jobs due to regulation. This you cannot argue.
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Did I not say that advancements in technology were the driving force? Is the argument itself the point with you? Good lord...

And I can argue that regulation is not a factor here... coal jobs are not coming back like Trump says regardless of how much environmental protection is stripped away. Those men he paraded in front of a crowd to proclaim that their jobs were coming back would be better served to be trained in something else.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They aren't going to realize it because the exploited members of society are usually the last ones to figure it out. Coal miners don't understand that the Clean Power Plan has nothing to do with the elimination of coal mining jobs. The loss of coal mining jobs is directly tied to advances in technology.

Natural gas fracking has drastically lowered gas prices and made electricity generated from natural gas much cheaper than electricity generated from coal. Add in the continuing and increasingly fast-paced improvements in western coal mining efficiency and it's easy to see why jobs that have gone away will never be coming back.

Retraining these coal miners for new jobs would cost a fraction of what it would cost to provide care for those who will need treatment for the ill effects of coal pollution including asthma, lung disease and lung cancer... but Trump will continue to lie to these people and exploit them for political gain and they will continue to buy into it.
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Yeah, hog88... I believe this was my initial post on the subject from yesterday. Take not of what is in bold. :hi:
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Did I not say that advancements in technology were the driving force? Is the argument itself the point with you? Good lord...

And I can argue that regulation is not a factor here... coal jobs are not coming back like Trump says regardless of how much environmental protection is stripped away. Those men he paraded in front of a crowd to proclaim that their jobs were coming back would be better served to be trained in something else.
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We still need coal as an energy source. The regulations that Obama put on the coal industry drove our energy prices to an all time high. Hopefully someone will discover a truly effective clean energy source, but so far there aren't many which is why we have to get energy from a variety of sources.
 
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davethevol said:
We still need coal as an energy source. The regulations that Obama put on the coal industry drove our energy prices to an all time high. Hopefully someone will discover a truly effective clean energy source, but so far there aren't many which is why we have to get energy from a variety of sources.
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I agree with this 100%. The number of jobs in the coal industry just aren't needed. For Trump to pretend that the removal of regulation is bringing them back in full force is disingenuous.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I agree with this 100%. The number of jobs in the coal industry just aren't needed. For Trump to pretend that the removal of regulation is bringing them back in full force is disingenuous.
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Again, regulations that never should have been put in place to begin with.
 
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