Wow. Does the media ever hate Palin

[milohimself]

How one reads a story absolutely makes a difference. Why do you think they poll people on their reaction to certain terms and phrases? For funsies?

I've typed up a response relevant enough to the rest of your post in the Jon Stewart thread, but I will add that FNC, who does actively cast liberals and democrats in a negative light and conservatives and Republicans in a positive light, reaches nearly as many people as the rest of the MSM put together so the result is a wash.

I won't exonerate MSNBC from anything. But if you or Fox News want to criticize the liberal media, at least have the balls to admit that you do it from a standpoint of your own bias and disdain for liberals. If you were to do that, I wouldn't agree or disagree with you any more than I already do, but you would be legitimately demanding more respect and credibility.

 

[KiffinKiller]

No. Why would that be even remotely true?

You are preaching objectivity to me on the basis of a subjective suggestion that acts of violence are worse because of skin color, religion, creed, etc?

You said the demographics suggested higher than average intelligence - which makes the violence look worse, imo.

 

[gsvol]

You said the demographics suggested higher than average intelligence - which makes the violence look worse, imo.

Are you speaking of the firebombing of Sarah Palin's church??

Cafe Express has accurately determined the republican nominee in the last three elections by percentage of t-shirt sales.

Below you will find results of tshirt sales so far:

 

[IPorange]

The pic isn't showing, gs. I'm assuming it's either Palin or Peter from Family Guy.

 

[IPorange]

This is the pic that wasn't cooperating with gs that he is referring to:

Santorum shirts could be a collector's item.

 

[sjt18]

You said the demographics suggested higher than average intelligence - which makes the violence look worse, imo.

Then that's a stupid opinion. Violence is no worse if perpetrated by a PhD than by a grade school drop out. If you want to go down that road though... consider Marx. More people have died as a result of his ideals than any other philosophy or religion in history.

But as someone earlier asked, what violence are you referring to? Please be specific and name the violent followers of Palin, the TP, or the conservative movement generally today.

Then.... compare that back to SEIU and the Wisconsin teacher's union. Those are "mainstream" liberal groups that have recently used intimidation tactics, physically attacked opponents, and done millions of dollars worth of vandalism to public property. Compare it to the violence perpetrated in poor communities as a result of liberal policies that in part have taught them that they are "entitled" to the wealth of other people without having to work for it.

 

[TennTradition]

Still no word on Revere?
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[gsvol]

You said the demographics suggested higher than average intelligence - which makes the violence look worse, imo.

What violence???

The only thing the media could dig out of the emial probe
(directed agaist her and her alone of all the candidates)
was to have an analyst say what he thought about her
level of communication.

He found that she wrote two grade levels above what
you will find in USA Today and NY Slimes articles.

TennTradition
Still no word on Revere?

You have no excuse to ask such a question, you have
been answered several times on that, including Revere's
own account of that time.

“Historians agree: Palin was right about Paul Revere”

Frankly, I had forgotten much of the history of Revere’s
ride until this incident, and I had to look it up for myself
to recall what Palin meant by her response.

Tom Burnam covered it succinctly and accurately in his
indispensable Dictionary of Misinformation, a book I have
had on my shelf for more than 30 years. If all people
know of Revere is Longfellow’s poem, which is what the
reaction to Palin’s remarks seem to show, then they
know far less than they think.

You may have aced chemistry but obviously flunked
America History.

Sarah Palin Was Right About Paul Revere - Peter Roff (usnews.com)

Palin recently said that Revere, as part of his famous
ride, warned the British that they would have a fight on
their hands if they tried to seize the caches of arms and
ammunition that the colonists had hidden at places like
Lexington and Concord.
------------------------------

So Longfellow wasn’t completely true. But does that
make Palin right (and, more importantly, put eggs on
the face of her critics)? It sure looks that way.
-----------------------

Revere’s own record of that fateful night includes
statements that buttress Palin’s argument that he,
Revere, did warn the British that they were, by
marching on Lexington and Concord, asking for trouble.
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The intent behind the intensity of the coverage the
story has received is to continue the narrative that
Palin, according to the drive by media, is a moron not
worthy of the attention or political support she draws
from people all across the country. It’s a good thing
she didn’t talk about the “57 states” that make up
America or sign the wrong date on a guestbook.
Then they would really have gone ape.

I can just see the Jay Leno doofus in the street interviews
that will reflect the urban myth that will be perpetuated
right up until and after the election.

You sir have no such excuse, you obviously aren't that
stupid.

It's a crying shame that a Japanese Admiral would know
more of American history that the average American.

Then too everyone ignores the context of Palin's
statement.

Bottom line; Sarah Palin is a strong supporter of traditional
American second amendment rights.
(unlike the present administration and their party as
a whole.)

Brain dead version of bottom line; Palin is stupid or
ignorant or both.

IPorange
This is the pic that wasn't cooperating with gs that he is referring to:

Santorum shirts could be a collector's item.

Thank you!

Opportunity knocks.

 

[KiffinKiller]

Nice butterfly.

 

[milohimself]

I think it's fair to say at this point that Palin has the largest cult of personality built up around her of any political figure at this point in time.

 

[TennTradition]

GS - what the experts say and what Revere said in NO WAY implies that the intent of his ride was to warn the British.

You may have aced chemistry but obviously flunked
America History.

You sure about that?

Revere was detained - I know this. He didn't back down and told them that they were in a fight, great. But, to imply that was the intent of his ride? No. He wasn't riding when he warned them...that was note what his ride was about, as she says here:

He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed.

She's implying that his ride's intent was to warn the British (that lived along the route). To me, that's revisionist. He was a courier to send the message, as the others. When detained, he warned them. The hotair post you cited explains this. She makes it seem like he set off to tell the British FU, when that wasn't the case at all - his mission was the same as the others, get to Concord, get the leaders out, and warn the militia along the way. His warnings to the British weren't delivered until after he was caught.

I will yield that she was more on the right track than some to say that he sent a message of the rising colonial war. However, to imply it was the intent of the ride, or that the primary purpose of the ride was to say "America is strong - eat it" ala Toby Keith. Not so much. Sorry. That wasn't what he was doing at all.

 

[TennTradition]

I will also say - I don't find the statement utterly ridiculous - it had some merit, though I contest the fact that the ride's intent was to spread a message to the British. The part that I do find rather ridiculous is how some are holding up the statements (that by themselves don't hold water, but do have some truth in them) as proof that she knows her history backwards and forwards.

I can already tell that people are going to cite it as a case of her intellect when it doesn't reflect that at all. It once again reflects her "golly gee" tone and instead of just stating what he did, she got "golly gee, yay America" and it sounded stupid, as she usually does. She should be able to support America without acting like a cheerleading coach or kindergarten teacher.

 

[KiffinKiller]

I will also say - I don't find the statement utterly ridiculous - it had some merit, though I contest the fact that the ride's intent was to spread a message to the British. The part that I do find rather ridiculous is how some are holding up the statements (that by themselves don't hold water, but do have some truth in them) as proof that she knows her history backwards and forwards.

I can already tell that people are going to cite it as a case of her intellect when it doesn't reflect that at all. It once again reflects her "golly gee" tone and instead of just stating what he did, she got "golly gee, yay America" and it sounded stupid, as she usually does. She should be able to support America without acting like a cheerleading coach or kindergarten teacher.

While continually preaching to the base: "we're strong and love guns!"

 

[gsvol]

GS - what the experts say and what Revere said in NO WAY implies that the intent of his ride was to warn the British.



You sure about that?

Revere was detained - I know this. He didn't back down and told them that they were in a fight, great. But, to imply that was the intent of his ride? No. He wasn't riding when he warned them...that was note what his ride was about, as she says here:



She's implying that his ride's intent was to warn the British (that lived along the route). To me, that's revisionist. He was a courier to send the message, as the others. When detained, he warned them. The hotair post you cited explains this. She makes it seem like he set off to tell the British FU, when that wasn't the case at all - his mission was the same as the others, get to Concord, get the leaders out, and warn the militia along the way. His warnings to the British weren't delivered until after he was caught.

I will yield that she was more on the right track than some to say that he sent a message of the rising colonial war. However, to imply it was the intent of the ride, or that the primary purpose of the ride was to say "America is strong - eat it" ala Toby Keith. Not so much. Sorry. That wasn't what he was doing at all.

Did Palin say Revere's intent and purpose was to warn the British?? :crazy:

I don't think so.

She didn't even imply that, only those who want to create some sort of false urban myth would even say so.

That's you and the media trying to put words in her mouth.

Just because something sounds stupid to you doesn't make it stupid.

Palin's statement "we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed." rings as true today as it did in the day of Paul Revere and all your's and John Kerry's nuances isn't going to change that.

Obama can ridicule rural America for clinging to their Bibles and guns all he wants but he certainly isn't going to change the opinion of the real grass roots in America.

And all of George Soros well funded faux grass roots groups isn't goiing to change that.

milohimself
I think it's fair to say at this point that Palin has the largest cult of personality built up around her of any political figure at this point in time.

You could be shorting Barack Hussein Obama a bit there bub.

 

[milohimself]

You could be shorting Barack Hussein Obama a bit there bub.

Doubt it. I live in one of rhe most liberal cities in America and you'd be hard pressed to find more than a person or two who still love Obama on the streets during any given couple hours.
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[TennTradition]

GS - Perhaps I am missing the part where she says that he was "ringing the bells" to warn the Americans on his ride. I must have missed that part of the statement. Or the part that said he was heading to Concord to get the good guys out in time. Must have missed that too. Of course, that doesn't sound as grand as him riding while flipping off the British.

She is clearly saying he was saying FU to the British as he made his ride, warning them America would put stick it to them. That is incorrect and is revisionist to serve a purpose her "Yay America" tour.
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[KiffinKiller]

GS - Perhaps I am missing the part where she says that he was "ringing the bells" to warn the Americans on his ride. I must have missed that part of the statement. Or the part that said he was heading to Concord to get the good guys out in time. Must have missed that too. Of course, that doesn't sound as grand as him riding while flipping off the British.

She is clearly saying he was saying FU to the British as he made his ride, warning them America would put stick it to them. That is incorrect and is revisionist to serve a purpose her "Yay America" tour.
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Arguing with him over Palin is an exercise in futility.

 

[n_huffhines]

I defend her because I get tired of hearing the same, retreaded criticisms that the left in general tosses at all conservatives. When her critics can come up with something new, I'll listen.

I hate Obama, but I'll defend him when he's right, and I'll counter what I think are illogical arguments against him in the interest of fairness. I wouldn't say I hate Palin, but I dislike her, and I'll defend her in certain instances. Calling her "stupid" is just a cheap trick to dismiss her*. And it's worked. So who is dumber? Palin or the people who are duped by the cheap dismissal of Palin. There are some very smart politicians with really bad ideas. Milton Friedman said Richard Nixon was the most academically capable politician he ever met.

*Honestly there is no comparison between Palin and how unbelievably stupid Speaker Pelosi has looked in my eyes (I hate her and was still embarrassed for her about the torture lies...that's how bad she looked. Also when she responded sharply, "Are you serious?" when asked about the constitutionality of Obamacare, etc.). Nobody cares that she's dumb as a brick and that she lied about torture.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Misogynist.

 

[gsvol]

While continually preaching to the base: "we're strong and love guns!"

Spoken like a real conservative. :crazy:

Doubt it. I live in one of rhe most liberal cities in America and you'd be hard pressed to find more than a person or two who still love Obama on the streets during any given couple hours.
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Good! :thumbsup:

GS - Perhaps I am missing the part where she says that he was "ringing the bells" to warn the Americans on his ride. I must have missed that part of the statement. Or the part that said he was heading to Concord to get the good guys out in time. Must have missed that too. Of course, that doesn't sound as grand as him riding while flipping off the British.

She is clearly saying he was saying FU to the British as he made his ride, warning them America would put stick it to them. That is incorrect and is revisionist to serve a purpose her "Yay America" tour.
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They did leave Concord, the battle was fought outside
the township.

Nothing historically incorrect at all about what she said,
several university history professors have said the same,
the one who appeared on PBS was practically begged
to say she was wrong but didn't.

Read Revere's own account of the events.

Once again the mendacious myth of the far left,
with the obsequious service of the so-called
Mainstream Media, becomes the accepted truth
of the masses. People need to read up on the
Bolsheviks' power grab in 1917.

They grabbed control of the media early on. Here they
have done it by stealth over a period of years. But
make no mistake; they have done it.

PDS and PMS have a lot in common.

Arguing with him over Palin is an exercise in futility.

Palin just gave the media another slap accross the
mouth yesterday.

They printed some information about her projected
plans and she said; "glad the media knows my plans
better than I do."

 

[TennTradition]

GS - what does your comment about Concord have to do with mine? Maybe you misunderstood my comment?

Regardless, there were a host of skirmishes fought all the way back to Boston. The bloodiest took place in my former town, Arlington.

Where exactly did Revere say ge was riding and ringing his bell to warn the British of the American force/might? I just see where he did this after he was detained - after they took his horse.

She turned his RIDE into a story of him proclaiming America's strength to the British. It fit her agenda. At first I thought it was a gaffe, but further reflection makes me see that it was just her revising history to fit her "yay America - go team" agenda. His ride wasn't about this.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of America; in fact, I encourage it. However, unlike some, apparently, I don't need a cheerleader-in-chief to remind me that I should love my country.
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[milohimself]

Good! :thumbsup:

What you will find are loads of people who are still fairly resigned to voting for Obama over anything the Republicans have put forth.

 

[KiffinKiller]

Spoken like a real conservative. :crazy:







Good! :thumbsup:





They did leave Concord, the battle was fought outside
the township.

Nothing historically incorrect at all about what she said,
several university history professors have said the same,
the one who appeared on PBS was practically begged
to say she was wrong but didn't.

Read Revere's own account of the events.

Once again the mendacious myth of the far left,
with the obsequious service of the so-called
Mainstream Media, becomes the accepted truth
of the masses. People need to read up on the
Bolsheviks' power grab in 1917.

They grabbed control of the media early on. Here they
have done it by stealth over a period of years. But
make no mistake; they have done it.

PDS and PMS have a lot in common.

Palin just gave the media another slap accross the
mouth yesterday.

They printed some information about her projected
plans and she said; "glad the media knows my plans
better than I do."

Because I think the base is partisan, I'm crazy? Take a look in the mirror, pal.

 

[gsvol]

Because I think the base is partisan, I'm crazy? Take a look in the mirror, pal.

When did I call you a partisan or crazy either??

Quit trying to put words in my mouth.

I merely complimented your 'conservative' statement.

BTW, since you claim to have voted 'conservative'
traditionally, which of the following did you vote for?

John McCain
George W Bush
John Dole
George H W Bush
Ronald Reagan

Personally I highly doubt you have voted in more
than one presidential election and you voted for
BHO in that one. Now anyone who says Obama
is conservative IS CRAZY as a loon.

Is this what the Left calls civility?

The Facebook group "I hate it when I wake up and
Sarah Palin is still alive" has grown to well over 3,000
members. 3,249 people to be exact. Over three
thousand left-wingers wish to see Mrs. Palin die.

And their group's official picture:

Samples:

Don't forget about comments like these
(swearing obscured):

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have about
a half dozen members on this board, or they
will join shortly once they have found it.

That would include you pal.

You can take a look in the mirror.

GS - what does your comment about Concord have to do with mine? Maybe you misunderstood my comment?

In response to your:

Or the part that said he was heading to Concord to get the good guys out in time.

Regardless, there were a host of skirmishes fought all the way back to Boston. The bloodiest took place in my former town, Arlington.

So? Did what Revere to the British ring true or nay?

Where exactly did Revere say ge was riding and ringing his bell to warn the British of the American force/might? I just see where he did this after he was detained - after they took his horse.

For the umteenth time, that wasn't his sole reason
at all, but as events did unfold he did warn the
British to stand down, he could have just have
easily kept his mouth shut.

She turned his RIDE into a story of him proclaiming America's strength to the British. It fit her agenda. At first I thought it was a gaffe, but further reflection makes me see that it was just her revising history to fit her "yay America - go team" agenda. His ride wasn't about this.

Unfortunately she gave too much credit to the
intelligence of the media and people like you,
anyone with room temperature IQ knows Revere's
message was to warn the colonist militia that
the British were coming.

She wasn't revising history and if her agenda is to
protect the American Second Amendment then
more power to her.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of America; in fact, I encourage it. However, unlike some, apparently, I don't need a cheerleader-in-chief to remind me that I should love my country.
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Unlike some I don't need a doofus-in-chief who
opposes everything America stands for.

 

[MG1968]

John McCain
George W Bush
John Dole
George H W Bush
Ronald Reagan

John Dole??