Wow. Does the media ever hate Palin

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#253
GS - my point is that I don't understand why you bother mentioning that they left Concord. I was making the point that they were trying to get there to get those guys out before the British made their way. I didn't suggest that others didn't make it there - or that they didn't get out. Your comment seemed to suggest that I did and I was confused by that.

Clearly, your comment about Concord was in response to my comment about Concord. I get that. I didn't need you to just quote my post again. What I would like for you to do is explain why you typed that in response to what I said...
 
#254
#254
gsvol said:
The Facebook group "I hate it when I wake up and
Sarah Palin is still alive" has grown to well over 3,000
members. 3,249 people to be exact. Over three
thousand left-wingers wish to see Mrs. Palin die.
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Oh, wow. That's a lot. Just over half as many fans of cucumbers on facebook.

Cucumbers
 
#256
#256
TennTradition said:
GS - my point is that I don't understand why you bother mentioning that they left Concord. I was making the point that they were trying to get there to get those guys out before the British made their way. I didn't suggest that others didn't make it there - or that they didn't get out. Your comment seemed to suggest that I did and I was confused by that.

Clearly, your comment about Concord was in response to my comment about Concord. I get that. I didn't need you to just quote my post again. What I would like for you to do is explain why you typed that in response to what I said...
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You criticized Palin for saying Revere was warning
the militia to get out of Concord and they did, so
I don't understand what your criticism is.

I do understand that you would like to sidetrack
the conversation down some road of obfuscation.

Can you quote and mainstream media article about
Palin that has anything at all positive about her.

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No, on the contrary, they constantly berate her
with pure unwarranted vitriol as to her intelligence
and character, wrongly!

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GAVol said:
The name does sort of match the excitement his campaign generated.
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Might as well have been John Doe, what you you
think of a so-called republican who hires a speech
writer from the Nation? (leading communist party mag.)

He would probably have been left of the two Bush's
who are about as conservative as the two senators
representing Maine.

I stand corrected but when I think of Bob Dole, I
can't help but think of Dole pineapple.

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#257
That you would adhere to this birth certificate nonsense proves you are cRaZIer than I originally thought.
 
#258
#258
You criticized Palin for saying Revere was warning
the militia to get out of Concord and they did, so
I don't understand what your criticism is.
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OK, GS...let's slow this down for you. Read each sentence twice and maybe it will get clearer...

Perhaps this may help as well... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

TennTradition said:
GS - Perhaps I am missing the part where she says that he was "ringing the bells" to warn the Americans on his ride. I must have missed that part of the statement. Or the part that said he was heading to Concord to get the good guys out in time. Must have missed that too. Of course, that doesn't sound as grand as him riding while flipping off the British.
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Palin did not say that Revere was trying to get word to the leaders of the Sons of Liberty to get out of Concord. I said that. I said that Palin failed to say this as well as failed to say that he was warning the militia to rise against the British march. Instead, she chose to invent history and say that Revere was using his ride (and "ringing those bells") to tell the British that America was strong, etc., etc. When, in fact, he was using the ride to get leaders out of town before the British got there...actually rather different than what she said...
 
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#259
TennTradition said:
OK, GS...let's slow this down for you. Read each sentence twice and maybe it will get clearer...

Perhaps this may help as well... Sarcasm | Define Sarcasm at Dictionary.com



Palin did not say that Revere was trying to get word to the leaders of the Sons of Liberty to get out of Concord. I said that. I said that Palin failed to say this as well as failed to say that he was warning the militia to rise against the British march. Instead, she chose to invent history and say that Revere was using his ride (and "ringing those bells") to tell the British that America was strong, etc., etc. When, in fact, he was using the ride to get leaders out of town before the British got there...actually rather different than what she said...
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Give her staffers credit for coming up with a clever argument to say Revere was effectively beating his chest and letting the British know it would be no easy fight.

Its concocted, of course, to deflect the rightful criticism of her butchering the story. But clever nevertheless.
 
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#260
lawgator1 said:
Give her staffers credit for coming up with a clever argument to say Revere was effectively beating his chest and letting the British know it would be no easy fight.

Its concocted, of course, to deflect the rightful criticism of her butchering the story. But clever nevertheless.
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At this point, I'm not even sure she misspoke. I think that it might have just been how she views the events. Upon review, the comments don't make sense as a gaffe - it is just taking some truth (Revere's statements to the British following his detainment) and combining it into the Longfellow tale to spin things into her cheerleading routine. It doesn't mean she was correct in saying it the way she did - but I think its what was going on.
 
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TennTradition said:
At this point, I'm not even sure she misspoke. I think that it might have just been how she views the events. Upon review, the comments don't make sense as a gaffe - it is just taking some truth (Revere's statements to the British following his detainment) and combining it into the Longfellow tale to spin things into her cheerleading routine. It doesn't mean she was correct in saying it the way she did - but I think its what was going on.
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Its hard to blame her for getting her facts wrong from the Longfellow poem since the facts are wrong there, too. But even that poem was about him warning the revolutionaries, not the British.

The warning was to the revolutionaries that the fight was on and to protect the store of munitions, not some kind of PSA propoganda psychological warfare aimed at making the Brits feel all depressed.
 
#264
#264
RealetyBytes.com

As usual, Palin is 100% correct! While politicians
can talk a good game, and might have got us close, if
they were our only recourse we would still be in the
British Empire, and they have never talked hostilities
to an end. As to papers like the Times, who have been
nothing more than communist manifesto-pushing rags
for years, if they actually had any power at the time,
our forefathers would have been found out and
hanged before any Revolution came to pass.

As to her disliking the press, they have savaged her
and her family mercilessly, and attempted to destroy
her at every turn. They just spent days asking for help
going through 24,000 pages of this private citizens e-
mails, and spent not one minute looking into the history
of whoever it claims to be currently occupying the
White House.

Keller may have left the helm of the NY TIMES, but he
is still guiding the progressive path of hatred and lies
against successful Americans with whom he disagrees
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lawgator1 said:
That you would adhere to this birth certificate nonsense proves you are cRaZIer than I originally thought.
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Not nonsense at all, Obama has yet to provide
his bonifides to be president and not only that
he still keeps all of his persona history secret.

That is unprecedented in American history.





TennTradition said:
OK, GS...let's slow this down for you. Read each sentence twice and maybe it will get clearer...

Perhaps this may help as well... Sarcasm | Define Sarcasm at Dictionary.com



Palin did not say that Revere was trying to get word to the leaders of the Sons of Liberty to get out of Concord. I said that. I said that Palin failed to say this as well as failed to say that he was warning the militia to rise against the British march. Instead, she chose to invent history and say that Revere was using his ride (and "ringing those bells") to tell the British that America was strong, etc., etc. When, in fact, he was using the ride to get leaders out of town before the British got there...actually rather different than what she said...
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Again, I say that anyone with a room temperature
IQ knows about the ride of Paul Revere, if you are
trying to say she was trying to denegrate his
patriotism the that's too dumb for words.

Palin invented no history as historians have testified.

If you want to interpret her statements that way then
we can agree to disagree.

You are wrong! That isn't what she meant but
what she said is pertinent to current history.


lawgator1 said:
Give her staffers credit for coming up with a clever argument to say Revere was effectively beating his chest and letting the British know it would be no easy fight.

Its concocted, of course, to deflect the rightful criticism of her butchering the story. But clever nevertheless.
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She didn't butcher anying, althouth you try to butcher her, hatchetman.

You want clever arguments then look at what the
Obama handlers say about his statements.

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama

How may of the above statements do you endorse
as being truthful and of those you endorse, what
documentation can you provide to show them to
be true???????????????????

Eagerly awaiting your reply!




TennTradition said:
At this point, I'm not even sure she misspoke. I think that it might have just been how she views the events. Upon review, the comments don't make sense as a gaffe - it is just taking some truth (Revere's statements to the British following his detainment) and combining it into the Longfellow tale to spin things into her cheerleading routine. It doesn't mean she was correct in saying it the way she did - but I think its what was going on.
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What the **** ever! :loco:



lawgator1 said:
To Palin, all questions are gotcha' because she can't answer any of them.
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Anything Palin says is gotcha' as far as the LSM and
the likes of you go.
 
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#265
So, GS, why would Palin, when speaking of Revere's RIDE (and "ringing those bells"), focus on highlighting only Revere's warning to the British of America's strength and leave out the primary purposes of his ride given the fact that his warning came not on his ride but after his detainment? What is so ludicrous about my suggestion that she likely did this because it served as another platform for her to cheerlead America's strength on her "Go America" tour? I'm not suggesting that it was necessarily premeditated - just that it could possibly be her default go-to approach to things.

I don't know what is true and what isn't about Obama's comments. I'm sure you think you do. The better question is who is really trying to derail this discussion, as you accused me of other. The only "aside" I introduced (according to you) was clarifying my point about Concord that you clearly misunderstood. According to you, this was to draw attention away from the real discussion - though to me it was to make sure we were on the same page in the discussion. I am glad to see you are now doing exactly what you accused me of doing - dangling the Obama/Muslim bait to deflect from the current conversation. You have a habit of accusing others of the very things you do (such as your personal attack complaints followed up by ban-able personal attacks/aggression by you on others).
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#266
#266
Bristol is on GMA this morning and she is impressive for her age. The family may be wrong on certain issues but there is nothing dumb about them
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#267
#267
So is GSvol actively campaigning for an end to religious freedom in the US, or is it just me? I thought he was pro freedom?
 
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#271
milohimself said:
I'm not sure he's posted an independent thought on here yet.
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That's rich, coming from someone like you. :eek:lol:





TennTradition said:
So, GS, why would Palin, when speaking of Revere's RIDE (and "ringing those bells"), (1) focus on highlighting only Revere's warning to the British of America's strength and (2)leave out the primary purposes of his ride given the fact that his warning came not on his ride but after his detainment? What is so ludicrous about my suggestion that she likely did this because it served as another platform for her to cheerlead America's strength on her "Go America" tour? I'm not suggesting that it was necessarily premeditated - (3)just that it could possibly be her default go-to approach to things.

I don't know what is true and what isn't about Obama's comments. I'm sure you think you do. The better question is who is really trying to derail this discussion, as you accused me of other. The only "aside" I introduced (according to you) was clarifying (4)my point about Concord that you clearly misunderstood. According to you, this was to draw attention away from the real discussion - though to me it was to make sure we were on the same page in the discussion. I am glad to see you are now doing exactly what you accused me of doing - dangling the Obama/Muslim bait to deflect from the current conversation. You have a habit of accusing others of the very things you do (5)(such as your personal attack complaints followed up by ban-able personal attacks/aggression by you on others).
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1. Goes to the tea party support of the 2nd amendment
and the drive to get back to the constituional approach
to government vs the socialist path chosen by the
democrats and some republicans.

2. Because everyone knows about that part of his
mission, I think I've explained that two or three
times to you.

3. Or it could be you over analyzing.
Not that this isn't largely the tea party approach.

4. I still don't understand what point you are trying to
make. What Palin said was factually correct.

5. No one on the board receivs more insults meant
to be personal than me, if you take time to notice.

Whatever, why are you dwelling on this item.
Is that the only criticism of Palin you have other than
the fact that you dislike her personally?





lawgator1 said:
Its hard to blame her for getting her facts wrong from the Longfellow poem since the facts are wrong there, too. But even that poem was about him warning the revolutionaries, not the British.

The warning was to the revolutionaries that the fight was on and to protect the store of munitions, not some kind of PSA propoganda psychological warfare aimed at making the Brits feel all depressed.
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No it was the media who drew from the poem, not Palin.

You have that all assbackwards.








lawgator1 said:
Give her staffers credit for coming up with a clever argument to say Revere was effectively beating his chest and letting the British know it would be no easy fight.

Its concocted, of course, to deflect the rightful criticism of her butchering the story. But clever nevertheless.
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Nothing is concocted at all except the media criticism
and they ended up once again with egg on their face
after their knee jerk reaction.







lawgator1 said:
That you would adhere to this birth certificate nonsense proves you are cRaZIer than I originally thought.
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No nonsense at all.

Even the last release has proven to be a fake.

Just because Trump accepted it doesn't make it real.
 
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#272
1. Goes to the tea party support of the 2nd amendment
and the drive to get back to the constituional approach
to government vs the socialist path chosen by the
democrats and some republicans.

2. Because everyone knows about that part of his
mission, I think I've explained that two or three
times to you.

3. Or it could be you over analyzing.
Not that this isn't largely the tea party approach.

4. I still don't understand what point you are trying to
make. What Palin said was factually correct.

5. No one on the board receivs more insults meant
to be personal than me, if you take time to notice.

Whatever, why are you dwelling on this item.
Is that the only criticism of Palin you have other than
the fact that you dislike her personally?
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1 and 3 - That is kind of how I am looking at this...but I see it as spinning a historical event to fit her political agenda.

2 - But, it wasn't part of the mission! As far as I can tell, he was under no instructions to do it. He wasn't supposed to be caught! After being detained, he delivered his warnings in defiance. That's great - but I have a problem with Palin and her camp insisting that Paul Revere's ride was in any way remotely a "nah nah, boo, boo, We're America and we're strong" ride. Getting your leaders out of dodge isn't exactly 100% congruent with the idea that America is strong and going to kick the British's rear. That is why I question exactly why Palin chose to highlight a portion of his RIDE that didn't actually happen (it happened only after he was detained) and left out the other aspects. Then, to insist it was correct is problematic to me. The historians only agreed that he delivered a warning to the British - not that his ride was (even partly) about this.

4 - I'm just discussing my issue with people using this as an example of Palin being right and the media being wrong. I have an issue with it because I feel that Palin wasn't right. She wasn't dead wrong - but I don't think she was right either (the warning to the British wasn't a part of his ride - it wasn't part of the intent of the ride, it was only something that happened later in defiance (presumably) after he was detained). If someone has evidence to the contrary of this, I will be happy to consider it.

5 - I stand by my statement...you are guilty of the very things you for which you accuse others.
 
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GAVol said:
The name does sort of match the excitement his campaign generated.
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PS; I hear your state is being sued by the government
of Mexico.




TennTradition said:
4 - I'm just discussing my issue with people using this as an example of Palin being right and the media being wrong.
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It was probably being used because it is the most
current.

There are no shortage of examples.

You can find more here:

Vocal Minority: The ABC?s of Barack Obama?s Complete and Utter Stupidity (Part I)

It’s supposed to be common knowledge that Sarah
Palin is stupid, right? Why? Palin-haters can’t tell us.
There’s no actual data to back that up, other than
out-of-context statements, completely made up
quotes and purported “gotcha” moments.

These debunked gaffes then get transported
instantaneously throught the leftosphere from Daily
Kos to the NY Times to MoveOn.org to MSNBC to the
script writing rooms of “Saturday Night Live” and
around and around again. All this before the slightest
bit of fact checking even starts—if it ever takes place
at all.
----------------------------

The irony of all this is that for most of the Palin-bashers,
their idea of an absolute brilliant God-like genius is
President Obama. But the funny thing is that there is
just as little evidence of Barack Obama’s intelligence
as there is of Sarah Palin’s stupidity.

In fact, if liberals actually lived in a reality-based
world rather than in their fantasy “liberals are smart
and good; conservatives are stupid and evil” world,
they would realize that Sarah Palin actually knows
what the hell she’s talking about, while Barack
Obama is a complete idiot with a capital I.
-------------------------

M is for the Mainstream Media. As documented by
many, such as Bernard Goldberg, the liberal MSM has
been in the tank for Obama since he appeared on the
national stage. If you don’t know most or even some
of the gaffes listed above, you can thank the Obama-
ass-kissing media for that. They are the reason these
huge whoppers by Obama have been hidden while
tiniest little misstatement from Sarah Palin is amplified
to the hilt and paraded as evidence of the woman’s
stupidity.

Also, because the MSM have been cheerleaders not
only for Obama but for all his failed policies—from the
Stimulus Bill to QE/QE2 to his takeover of GM and
Chrysler to Obama(Doesn’t)Care to Cash for Clunkers
to his Middle East foreign policy—they are just as
stupid and clownish as the president they so admire.
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Wait, don't tell me you think the media does treat her
fairly??
 
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