WOW! What a bunch of cry babies!

[daniel 85]

all i get out of the topics these days is blah blah blah im a fairweather fan and i only root for my tennessee team when they are winning blah blah blah

 

[Vol'n'beers]

THIS. O line, Justin Junter, Tyler Bray, Oneal. These aren't Dooley recruits. He is very close to last in SEC in recruiting. So either you don't have your facts, your an Alabma fan, your a relative of Dookey or you are just very stupid to want to retain his services or lack there of

Um, yes they are. Most of 'em anyway. James even said he wouldn't be here if Kiffin was around.
Who's stupid now?

 

[Vol'n'beers]

all i get out of the topics these days is blah blah blah im a fairweather fan and i only root for my tennessee team when they are winning blah blah blah

I'm getting some potential clients for my ponzi scheme. Pickins are easy around here.

 

[daniel 85]

I'm getting some potential clients for my ponzi scheme. Pickins are easy around here.

dont people get tired of playin the same old song over and over no wonder were in the position were in maybe if the vol fans would step up and have some well anything but hatred maybe things may turn around a bit

 

[daniel 85]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

couldnt have said it better myself glad to kno there is still a few good tennessee fans out there

 

[Vol'n'beers]

dont people get tired of playin the same old song over and over no wonder were in the position were in maybe if the vol fans would step up and have some well anything but hatred maybe things may turn around a bit

They must not. I guess if you've either never achieved anything or are not appreciative of what you did then you never learn how much work it is to get from the bottom to the top.

 

[daniel 85]

They must not. I guess if you've either never achieved anything or are not appreciative of what you did then you never learn how much work it is to get from the bottom to the top.

i agree with that 100 percent but i still say keep dooley and let him do his thing give it some time not just loose a few games some are gonna attck that but i dont care just let em be the winning is over rated perfection on come to a few people that have that ability to do this and make perfection some have to work and make perfection which is what we have
WORK IN PROGRESS

 

[drodvol]

Very excellent post my friend and I concur with most of it.

You asked at the end WHY would CDD wait until year 3 to switch to the 3-4 Defense when most smart people knew he wanted to make that move on day 1 when he took on the monumental task of rebuilding 1 of the worst football programs in the country which also plays in the toughest conference in the nation so I'll try to help you understand why the wait until year 3.

CDD took on this challenge with only 2 WEEKS left before National Signing Day to get as many good recruits to stay with UT from that laMe kiffScum class AND to try and add as many good players as he could in that short timespan.

That was another monumental task especially since we were under NCAA investigations at the time AND because he had ZERO coaches hired so CDD couldn't even tell recruits who their position coaches would be or what those coaches backgrounds and qualifications were.

CDD had a VERY serious NEED to recruit but he was just as pressured to try and hire the best coaches he could find as fast as he could too because more coaches hired also meant he could tell some recruits who their position coaches would be but NOT even close to enough time to do one of those things much less both but in retrospect he did a pretty good job at both considering such a short timeframe he had to work with.

Now to the 3-4 D situation....Good coaches that really KNOW the 3-4 Defense well are in short supply and even in the NFL there's been teams that waited a year or 2 or longer to make their switch to the 3-4 simply because they couldn't find and hire good 3-4 coaches to make the switch.

CDD and AD Hart almost HAD to give the 1st group of D coaches at least a 2 year contract if they wanted to fill the positions with anyone worth a crap and mostly all we could find were 4-3 D coaches so the switch was put on hold until we could find and hire coaches that know the 3-4 well BUT finding a 3-4 D coordinator with lots of experience is even harder to find than good 3-4 coaches that know the system well and can teach it to our kids so we did the best we could in the situation we were in.

CSS has been a D coord before but it's been awhile and I don't know if he was a DC using the 4-3 or the 3-4 but I'd guess it was the 4-3 since that's been the HOT Defense for 20 years now and it does take some time and learning to become a really good DC too.

I knew we would go through tough times switching to the 3-4 D but I had no idea things would go this badly in year 1.

CDD did fix our Running game like he promised after last season and it's better than most on here thought our run game could become with the same O linemen and the same RB's since most on here said all our O linemen and RB's flatout sucked but they were totally WRONG about those things.

IF, and a big IF, AD Hart decides that CDD gets 1 more year then I can only hope and pray that CDD fixes our Defense as well this offseason as he did fixing our run game last offseason because if that happens I can easily see Tennessee Winning the SEC East Title next year and giving both Bama and Oregon a good, tough game.

I hope that helps you understand a few things my friend.

VFL...GBO!!!

Best post on this thread. :thumbsup:

 

[GLDunlap]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. BI ut as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

So it's ok for you to bash Dooley but if others do it they are a bunch of cry babies? Also why do you say we can't keep firing coaches every 3 years? As far as I know if Dooley is fired he will be the first coach we have ever fired after 3 years.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Thats not what your wife said!

Yours did...and that's what matters.

 

[Advol]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took ov
His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

NT............Butt as long as the stadium looks like this..........it doesnt matter what you and I think...
You want Dooo to stay, better try roundin up 40,000 of your friends and get to the stadium and buy some popcorn!!

 

[RollerVol]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

It seems to be just a case of rebuilding, injuries, and bad luck. Too bad there is no compassion for the struggle Coach Dooley has endured. In this day and age it seems only wins are acceptable and that's the bottom line.
GO VOLS!

 

[Wylo]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

Loser supports a historically bad coach. Welcome to Vandyland....

Almost at rock bottom thanks to your coach. Great job.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

The problem with this team is they're not getting better on the defensive side but even worse. If Wilcox had stuck around, we might be 7-2 right now. But he didn't, and it is what it is. The players had all summer and every week in practice to atleast suck as much as they did at the beginning of the season on D, but they continue to set new lows. That is why people want Dooley and Co. gone. And I tend to agree. 0-15 for 3 years in October is just piss poor.

 

[TennesseeJet]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

Sorry Barb your son can't coach.

 

[billbattle]

Our head coach and defensive coordinator are clinical examples of the Peter Principle. They've Petered out I fear.

 

[jdbeard]

Ruhh rooo raggy! Someone made a thread about UT football ohs nos ! Let's bash him/her because he don't agree with us..how dare him! I'm proud to be a message board crybaby just y'all are so why does he think this hurts our feelings? He like UT football ewwww what a loser

 

[Neylandsmaxims]

1721 posts and 41 likes tells me all I need to know.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Our head coach and defensive coordinator are clinical examples of the Peter Principle. They've Petered out I fear.

Dooley is head and shoulders about Bill Battle as a coach. Battle took a very good team and turned it into a cellar dweller in 4 years, It took Majors 8 years to get the team back to the level battle inherited. Looks like your posts are heading the same direction.

 

[billbattle]

Dooley is head and shoulders about Bill Battle as a coach. Battle took a very good team and turned it into a cellar dweller in 4 years, It took Majors 8 years to get the team back to the level battle inherited. Looks like your posts are heading the same direction.

So by your distorted logic, a poster using some other person's name implies support of that individual. Brilliant.

 

[ldyvolsoftballfan]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

3 words.......Very Well Said.

 

[Doolittle 1720]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

We sure have missed you Barbara. Precious says thank you for the good words and hi to dad.

 

[VolFan68]

Thank you TennesseTom I agree with you completely. while I have been disappointed at times this season with some of the outcomes of games this season, I agree that CDD does have us going in the right direction. I think ppl forget what state this team was in when CDD took over, they don't call it the Fulmer cup for nothing.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

I took a break from this site for about 2 weeks. Tired of reading the same ole crap about Dooley can't coach, Bray is an immature 2nd tier quarter back, Hunter has cashed the season in, Sal is a horrible defensive cord., etc., etc.

I come back today and it is just more of the same. I have bashed Dooley some through disappointment in wins and loses. But as I have reflected on the status of the program, Maybe Dooley hasn't done that bad.

His first year the program had no depth and tons of NCAA scrutiny. Most of the Kiffin recruits left or were bad seeds and removed. He has Good depth now and really no major player infractions since he took over.

His second year was plagued with injuries. This allowed allot of underclassmen to gain some experience and helped create depth. Unfortunately key injuries to key players resulted in poor wins and loses.

This is his third year. Depth is better. Offense is scoring and the line is improving on their run blocking. Lets face it. All we had for 2 years was a passing game. So the change and need for a running game takes time. Running backs are starting to become a part of the game. Passing game has been there and it is a little disappointing that the timing with Bray and receivers seems off at times but overall the numbers have been good. Now to defense...it is a new system. And with any new system you have to get the right players. Sal will get this done through recruiting. He has had 1 year. Allow the program to build depth at all positions and allow there to become the continuity Tennessee had with Fulmer, Chavis and Cutcliff. I say keep Dooley. We can't keep firing coaches every 3 years. There isn't a ton of Nick Saben type coaches out there. Let these guys build the program. GO VOLS, GO BIG ORANGE! AND CHANGE THE FREAKING TOPICS ON THIS BOARD!

.

 

[508mikey]

opcorn:

Was Sunseri getting fired mentioned in the OP ?opcorn: