WR portal stuff

#101
#101
sami said:
NFL teams drafts players primarily on projected upside, not college results. Milroe is a physical freak as a QB, and someone will believe they can harness that talent and make a player out of him. I could see him getting to the second round because he's going to be a major project.
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Yep, he'll go round 2-4, simply as an experiment. Similar to Milton. Keep an athletic developmental QB as backup that can come in and run the offense, run the ball and pass sparingly. Think Richardson has shown that first round blinder picks towards freak athletic ability to immediately hitch your wagon to doesn't pan out.
 
#102
#102
Volinnooga said:
You talking about all those NFL front that thought Will Levis was gonna be a great NFL QB?
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I never understand some of the QB analysis. It's a dicey endeavor. Bo Nix and Penix both had good resumes and think both fit the teams they are with, so it's easier to understand how they are having success. Never thought Levis was that good, nor Richardson, nor Milroe, outside of Bama and LSU games, which is maybe reason for temptation he'll bring some NFL team.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Pope is a proven recruiter as is Martinez and Ellerbee. As far as position coaches remind yourself we won 10 games.
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Number 1 we aren’t playing any of the HS OL that Ellarbee has recruited so let me stop you there. Number 2 who has Martinez recruited here? 3 Popes best recruit just hit the portal and we went 10-2 because of the running game and the front 7. While I was typing this another OSU receiver just ran past one of Martinez guys.
 
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#105
swampfoxfan said:
I'm not sure why, has no recruit seen playing time? Or just not starting. Ellerbee was crucial in getting heard out of the portal as well as getting a commit from the incoming 5*OT. That's got to count for something.
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Count for something ? He’s been here 4 years and you’re flying the flag over a kid that hasn’t played a down and flirted with other schools until the last second?? What about the 2-3 other 5 stars that we’ve supposedly led for who chose to go somewhere else? Do they count for something?
 
#106
#106
Sarms58 said:
The portal is full of WRs so it’s not just Tennessee…but if you look at our offense this year we led the league in rushing so the WRs didn't get as many targets as they would have liked…plus we are pretty deep so the younger guys didn’t get as many snaps as they would have liked…but it does seem to be pretty common for WRs everywhere to always want to move to get more playing time.
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Bama is losing 6 WRs to the portal, the portal is full of Wrs. Look for tOSU to lose some, as Smith is a freshman and will be there for another couple of years. Everybody wants to play right away, nobody wants to sit for a couple of years anymore.
 
#107
#107
Golfprovol said:
Williams is good but wonder why his #'s fell off so much as the year went on
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It’s hard as a 17 year old when defenses scheme to take you away, and you have an inconsistent passer getting you the ball.

People talk about not giving up on a 20 year old sophomore who hasn’t done anything, but this guy has already turned in a great freshman season before he turned 18. He will be fine.
 
#108
#108
Golfprovol said:
If you take away the OCC games, Nico had 8 tds & 3 ints and only 1500 or so yards.

Milroe had 5 tds and 8 ints and about 1900 or so yards.

BUT

We did play those games and the stats count. Not sure how you can say a 1st round pick is not very good. Would hate to see what you think of Hendon, since he was drafted in the 3rd round.
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He’s not a very good passer. He is a dynamic runner. I don’t think he will be a good pro, and the team that picks him in the first will regret it. If a player of his caliber played any other position, he wouldn’t go in the first.
 
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#110
farmdogvol said:
Bama is losing 6 WRs to the portal, the portal is full of Wrs. Look for tOSU to lose some, as Smith is a freshman and will be there for another couple of years. Everybody wants to play right away, nobody wants to sit for a couple of years anymore.
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If Noah Rogers had stayed, they would have 3 5s and a VERY high 4. Just unbelievable. They also one had Jameson Smith.
 
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#114
njvols said:
I never understand some of the QB analysis. It's a dicey endeavor. Bo Nix and Penix both had good resumes and think both fit the teams they are with, so it's easier to understand how they are having success. Never thought Levis was that good, nor Richardson, nor Milroe, outside of Bama and LSU games, which is maybe reason for temptation he'll bring some NFL team.
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Levis is a blockhead and NFL scouts believed that with his physical attributes he could be trained to be a solid QB. They were clearly wrong.

It's hard to say sometimes who is good or bad looking at college results. Josh Allen was essentially Levis and Milroe, and look what he became. The NFL is a copycat league, always has been, and right now everyone is trying to find the next Allen until the next trend starts.
 
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#116
UTodd01 said:
Matthews officially returning. Whew.
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huge news for the good guys. Obviously $$$ at play, but think maybe it will work out for Matthews to make sure he's a top priority for next year(s)...now add another WR or two, a couple OL, and LB upgrades and think we'll be in good shape w/ incoming class.
 
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njvols said:
huge news for the good guys. Obviously $$$ at play, but think maybe it will work out for Matthews to make sure he's a top priority for next year(s)...now add another WR or two, a couple OL, and LB upgrades and think we'll be in good shape w/ incoming class.
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LB Upgrades?
 
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#122
OH-Vol said:
LB Upgrades?
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Yes. After the injuries to Spillman and Pili, the LB position became none of our glaring problems on defense. With Spillman back and our incoming Freshmen LBs coming in this month, ou LB room will be talented and need to have good off season workouts and practice in the Spring.
 
#124
#124
Golfprovol said:
The guy is projected as a first round NFL draft pick, but maybe you know more about it that all 32 NFL front offices.

Like I said, he isn't the best. He can be good or not so good. Not much in between.
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I highly highly doubt he's a first round pick...he's so inconsistent you just don't know which player you'll get any given game, I haven't seen a mock draft where he's picked in the first round..not saying there aren't some just that I haven't seen it, reminds me alot of Anthony Richardson..
 
#125
#125
Dougie_D said:
It could be a combination.
From what I’m learning is that our WRs have to read the CBs and make the “smart route”.
I don’t know who is suppose to teach them those points. I would imagine the WR is coaching up “techniques” to creat space and NOT decision making off what they see? Could be wrong.
I would assume that not every WR in college or even the NFL constantly want to make those decisions. They would rather just run their routes. I think that’s why Hyatt isn’t that good in NFL. He’s not used to run specific routes?
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Every receiver in the NFL, college, and even some high schools has route adjustments based on coverage. What we’re doing is not unique.
 
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