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#51
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fade route said:
You're right. It's worse than I thought because so many incoming players with no experience will be playing defense and yet many still think will be improved on defense. Yet we have two quarterbacks playing in their first year of a new system last year but no one thinks they will be improved in the second year of Butch's system?
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Can't be any worse then the past couple of years.
 
#52
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supersmo18 said:
lol
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Well, if we base our expectations from Andy Kelly being only a marginal qb, this thread and the hundreds of others make more sense. It also gives Clay Travis further evidence of where we stand on the dumbest fan bases in America argument.
 
#53
#53
Dobbs will be the starter and will develop into a star here. If he was still struggling to adjust to the college game, we would have seen't :) it surface in the O/W game. But he was heads and shoulders above the rest.

I hate it for Worley, but if you are CBJ, you have to go with the guy who best fits your system and gives you the best chance to win. Last year, it might have been Worley. But not this year. He will be the backup.

Dobbs lets you run your full offense. Worley restricts what you can do.
 
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One last thing I should mention is that people are wrongfully writing Peterman off. Worley was playing poorly in the Oregon game. Peterman came in late and looked better.

Next week in the Swamp, we played the best defense in the country at that point in the season. Worley looked just as bad as Peterman did, but no one is predicting Worley to transfer.

I just think Peterman struggled adjusting to the speed of the college game (in the SEC). But he likely will improve dramatically this season. He showed it in the O/W game. CBJ said Peterman was consistent throughout the Spring.

Not saying he will be a starter, but I think it's way too early to write him off. With Ferguson gone, he has the biggest arm of the 3, is fairly mobile and is a smart player, too.
 
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As long as we have someone to throw the ball up in the air, we just let our talent at WR go get it - they do all the work for him ... that simple :)
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
One last thing I should mention is that people are wrongfully writing Peterman off. Worley was playing poorly in the Oregon game. Peterman came in late and looked better.

Next week in the Swamp, we played the best defense in the country at that point in the season. Worley looked just as bad as Peterman did, but no one is predicting Worley to transfer.

I just think Peterman struggled adjusting to the speed of the college game (in the SEC). But he likely will improve dramatically this season. He showed it in the O/W game. CBJ said Peterman was consistent throughout the Spring.

Not saying he will be a starter, but I think it's way too early to write him off. With Ferguson gone, he has the biggest arm of the 3, is fairly mobile and is a smart player, too.
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Worley looked as bad as Peterman in the Florida game?? No offense, but come on now, not even close. Majority opinion on here and everywhere else has been that based on how well Worley played in relief of Peterman is that we could've won that game had Worley started and played all 4 quarters. I personally don't believe that because I don't think we could've (or can now) beat Florida with Joe Montana as our QB, but that's another argument.

Besides that, the stats just don't support your statement.

Peterman- 4 of 11, 5 yds, 2 ints, .7 QBR. Again, 0.7 QBR (not 7, 17 or 70).... .7!

Worley- 10 of 23, 149 yds, 1 td, 2 ints, 32.5 QBR

Let me also add that I heard Brent Hubbs say yesterday on 104.5 in Nashville, that Peterman "was a non factor this Spring" while discussing the Ferguson debacle.

I don't know if Nathan will ever play QB again at UT. Seems like a great kid and I admire him for hanging in there, his hard work and for wanting to be a Vol. If his number is called one day I hope he can fully redeem himself and erase the memory of last years Florida game. But right now he appears to be a distant 3rd in the QB race.
 
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volfanbill said:
Well, if we base our expectations from Andy Kelly being only a marginal qb, this thread and the hundreds of others make more sense. It also gives Clay Travis further evidence of where we stand on the dumbest fan bases in America argument.
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Can't argue with that.
 
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I think the biggest question mark next year is not the QB position but whether our OC and DC are SEC caliber. It's easy to blame the players for not being experienced and/or talented, but if they are not coached up to SEC standards even if they are talented that will go to waste - players may be throwing and running exactly the routes coaches want but if the called plays/routes are wrong or sniffed out by the opposing OC/DC ...
Last year game planning/calling was poor on both sides of the ball. However now that coaches got some great talent they personally recruited (presumably that fits for their style of offense/defense) let's see what they can make out of it. I'm more optimistic about the offense because we already have good amount of evidence that Jancek may not be up to challenge - he did poorly vs SEC competition not only last year but also at previous jobs (both at UGA where he had talent, and at Cincy when Dooley/Chaney abused his defense).
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Dobbs will be the starter and will develop into a star here. If he was still struggling to adjust to the college game, we would have seen't :) it surface in the O/W game. But he was heads and shoulders above the rest.

I hate it for Worley, but if you are CBJ, you have to go with the guy who best fits your system and gives you the best chance to win. Last year, it might have been Worley. But not this year. He will be the backup.

Dobbs lets you run your full offense. Worley restricts what you can do.
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I don't know if Dobbs will start, but in the Orange and White game he was by far the best. Much was made of the fact that he mostly played against 2defense, but in the QB competition throwing drills he blew the others away including the supposed "Rifleman". This had nothing to do with Wr's or the defense.
 
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Worley will be improved this year. His ability to not turn the ball over will be one of our biggest strengths as the youth of our team gets acclimated to the SEC grind. Furthermore, I think his work throughout the offseason will open up our play book a little more, distributing the ball to our numerous options at WR and emerging threats at TE.
 
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TGVol said:
I think the biggest question mark next year is not the QB position but whether our OC and DC are SEC caliber. It's easy to blame the players for not being experienced and/or talented, but if they are not coached up to SEC standards even if they are talented that will go to waste - players may be throwing and running exactly the routes coaches want but if the called plays/routes are wrong or sniffed out by the opposing OC/DC ...
Last year game planning/calling was poor on both sides of the ball. However now that coaches got some great talent they personally recruited (presumably that fits for their style of offense/defense) let's see what they can make out of it. I'm more optimistic about the offense because we already have good amount of evidence that Jancek may not be up to challenge - he did poorly vs SEC competition not only last year but also at previous jobs (both at UGA where he had talent, and at Cincy when Dooley/Chaney abused his defense).
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I think you're being more than a little dramatic about this.

1. Jancek was co-DC at Cincy - so it wasn't completely his defense that got "abused", and certainly not by Chaney and God forbid, Dooley. It was abused by two should-have-been 1st round physical talents (Bray, DR) and one 2nd round talent (Hunter). There was no way those guys were going to be stopped that day. Just superior caliber athletes.

2. That Cincy team that was "abused" so badly that day went 10-3, won a share of their conference championship, AND BEAT VANDERBILT IN THEIR BOWL GAME. Yeah, that's right. Jones beat Jimmy Frank in his 2nd year at Cincy. With Big East talent!

If retaining Jancek means going 10-3 against comparable competition and beating Vanderbilt, then lock him down now.

3. UGA won an SEC championship with Jancek coaching there. Something we haven't done in quite a while.

Again, I think this concern is unfounded and more than a little dramatic. Jancek probably isn't the next Chavis, but he's more than serviceable as a DC. With talent and depth, there's no reason our defense can't be championship caliber.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Again, I think this concern is unfounded and more than a little dramatic. Jancek probably isn't the next Chavis, but he's more than serviceable as a DC.
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He is certainly not the next Chavis - as a matter of fact Jancek was FIRED by UGA - and this in spite of Mark Richt generally regarded as loyal to his staff.
 
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TGVol said:
He is certainly not the next Chavis - as a matter of fact Jancek was FIRED by UGA - and this in spite of Mark Richt generally regarded as loyal to his staff.
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Mark Richt is a good and Godly man. But the chronic underachievement of his teams is no one's fault but Mark Richt's. And the fact that it's spanned across multiple coordinators now makes that all the more clear.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Mark Richt is a good and Godly man. But the chronic underachievement of his teams is no one's fault but Mark Richt's. And the fact that it's spanned across multiple coordinators now makes that all the more clear.
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Hasn't CMR done about as well W/L as daddy Dools at UGA?
 
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